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Who actually is the 12" MacBook for?
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Because it runs full OSX and not just an enlarged mobile OS
So, a rMB12 is like an iPad with built in keyboard?
Someone should have warned me a year ago, since I've used my rMB12 for developing a few mobile games, and a lot of backend web services. Also, I hook it up to Dell u2515h, and use apple wireless keyboard + trackpad.
Someone should have warned me that iPad can do all of that as well.
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Thanks for weighing in. To me there still is a significant difference between an iPad and a computer. What I miss most with the iPad is the keyboard. I have been working on an 15 inch MBP for the past couple of years since I liked being able to be completely mobile. My work focus has changed and I need a much bigger screen anyway, so I'm going to get a stationary computer like an iMac to do the majority of my work on. Yes from a tech spec point of view it would have made much more sense for me to get a 13'' MBP, I actually want a smaller more portable computer, since I have been using the iPad I find the screen on my 15in MBP almost too big and the whole thing just feels too heavy.
I would totally have gotten the 13'' MBP maybe even with the touchbar, but I have wanted a cute computer for ever and since they now make a pink one I'm getting the pink one.
What I have read on here, the maxed out version should be able to handle the amount of editing I'll be wanting to do on my mobile setup.
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I just love that color matters to someone else too!!!
Would love it more if he/she would just admit wanting a brownish laptop
Mind you my 1st car was almost the same color and VW too had the fracking nerve to call it "gold" in the title
But I also don't understand why some people would be so obsessed about their laptop being bigger than their pads.
Heck if I had an iPadPro 12.9" and an older MBA 11" I'd still see no reason to change HW over screen sizes.....
Ok, so I think I finally understood, what your real beef is with the colors, to you the rosegold is a pink and you think it's dumb that they call it rosegold. Yes to me too it's a pink metallic color it's not really a coppery color. But if you want to be nitpicky about that (which is your prerogative) then the silver is not silver too, it's a metallic grey color. But I still think all those are cute colors, even the beige metallic color, aka gold. Let me guess you totally like the space greyWould love it more if he/she would just admit wanting a brownish laptop
I think most people don't get how insanely large that 12.9 in iPad is. It's almost too big, I got it as a stand-in for a Cintiq so I went for the biggest size available, but if I had bought it as a mobile device I would not have gotten that size, I wouldn't want to carry it around and use on a bus. It's basically the reason why I'm getting a smaller laptop, because the screen size is enough and for really big projects 15 inch and even the 17'' is not ideal either.
They could have called it platinum
Do you think they have reason why the only offer the MB in alternative colors? Do they really think nobody would want a bigger machine in pink or is it because they want to have a visible distinction between their more professional line up and what they think people who only surf the web and check their email use. Why no rosegold - pardon - pink (maybe the should call it space pink and space beige) iPad Pro 12.9 in?
Wouldn't be surprised to see pink and s##tbrown MBPs, MacMinis or iMacs after the next design upgrade.
They already announced a allmost-black-grey iMac and and don't see it staying exclusive to the top end for long.
They already announced a allmost-black-grey iMac and and don't see it staying exclusive to the top end for long.
You are definitely wrong. In fact, rMB is an excellent machine for business trips. When you have a change of linen in your briefcase, a shirt, a few hours of flight and work in a subordinate branch with a bunch of documents. Every gram counts, because it limits your freedom of movement. I have an iPad, but it does not allow me to fully work with documents. I have a rMBP, but why should I carry this heap of iron?
When I fly to the north of my part of the country, there is Polar Lights and a temperature of -40C. At this time in the south flowering roses and grapes. In the world there are countries much larger than the US, if you know
They could have called it platinum
Clearly anyone interested in a pink laptop doesn't do any real work
.... Wouldn't be surprised if those words were said in an apple meeting room at some point when they were discussing the macbook lineup.I currently have an iPad Pro 12.9" and a 2015 Retina Macbook Pro 13". I use the large iPad for most of my at home computing and such. When I travel, I often take both the iPad and the Macbook with me because I sometimes need to access MacOS on the road. For my purposes, the 2015 Retina Macbook is kind of bulky and really overkill for what I use it for. I'm very likely to get the refreshed iPad Pro 12.9" this year and I want to replace the Macbook Pro with the Macbook. I need a portable computer that can access MacOs (mainly for remote-ing into a work Windows PC) but that is easy to carry around and manage. I like the iPad for everything else (including light productivity, e-mail, safari, apps, etc).
Haha yeah, seems like it. But I also feel like a lot of women maybe are afraid people would not take them seriously if they admitted they like cute things. I used to think like that in the past. I think there needs to come a time when cuteness and skills are no longer mutually exclusiveClearly anyone interested in a pink laptop doesn't do any real work
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I would love that
but I'm not holding my breath.
You are definitely wrong. In fact, rMB is an excellent machine for business trips. When you have a change of linen in your briefcase, a shirt, a few hours of flight and work in a subordinate branch with a bunch of documents. Every gram counts, because it limits your freedom of movement. I have an iPad, but it does not allow me to fully work with documents. I have a rMBP, but why should I carry this heap of iron?
When I fly to the north of my part of the country, there is Polar Lights and a temperature of -40C. At this time in the south flowering roses and grapes. In the world there are countries much larger than the US, if you know
While I appreciate your admirable and very impressive soi disant globe trotting (harboring a modicum of envy because I'd love to travel), I'm not wrong just because you misjudge having an actual workload. "Business trip"-work is not a heavy workload and isn't what I was referring to; you describe documents and files; I was referring to high-resolution graphic design and some video editing.
Considering the discrepancy in opinion between the Internet Dudes here on MacRumors and the Apple store rep whom I quizzed heavily, I'll believe the Apple store rep: The rMB is not a work machine. /discussion.
Again with the cliche's from people who don't understand.
The 12" MacBook is exactly what Phil Schiller said it was at it's launch keynote a few years ago. A premium notebook for those who value light weight and slim size.
My RMB doesn't replace my iPad when I travel, it replaces my corporate laptop. It's not a 'coffee shop device'. It's a second notebook for the busy traveling business executive who values every ounce of weight and every centimeter of space. It sits in a drawer for 200 days a year but pays huge dividends on those 165 days that we're on planes, in hotels, at conferences, in foreign countries, in business class airport lounges, and in boardroom meetings.
90% of all notebook users are dragging around size and weight for no reason because they support processing horsepower they'll never use. Batteries, fans, ports, aluminum, and steel can all be greatly reduced on a machine for those of us who aren't compiling 4K video or gaming online. For those of us who use a spreadsheet, Powerpoint, Skype, email, and web browsing, Apple finally made a machine that gets rid of the stuff we never needed and have been dragging around on our aching backs for 20 years.
Don't judge us as if we're using some "underpowered iPad notebook". It's the opposite. Judge others who drag around these huge, heavy, hot, thick MacBook Pro's and MacBook Air's who never use 30% of their processing power because all they do is what we do- emails, spreadsheets, Powerpoints, Skype, web browsing. They're the ones doing it wrong.
Actually it's not /discussion because your personal definition of "work", as evidenced by @krabdb, isn't everyone's definition of work. People complain that rMBP doesn't go to 32 GB and they need more RAM for whatever it is they need it for. So a maxed-out Pro is not a work machine?
Considering the discrepancy in opinion between the Internet Dudes here on MacRumors and the Apple store rep whom I quizzed heavily, I'll believe the Apple store rep: The rMB is not a work machine. /discussion.
Since really the 1990s, when most customers talk about "working" on a computer, they are primarily talking about word processing, spreadsheets, presentations, documents like PDFs, tasks like taxes, etc. When the internet came about, work added e-mail, online researching, etc. In the video, audio and digital age, "work" added tasks like playlist editing, video editing, photo editing, etc. The Retina MacBook does all of this work very well; the only issue could be with certain video editing.
I cannot agree more. Different people have different needs.
I`m in the same boat as James here. For travel and my needs it is the right choice.
Obviously, other people may have different usage patterns so for them it may not be the optimal choice.
Consider reading what actual 12" MacBook owners are telling you in this thread instead of repeating false stereotypes you hear on YouTube.
The 12" MacBook is nothing like an iPad and is most certainly not underpowered.
Exactly! It IS a laptop, not some wonky "laptop replacement." That kind of thing belongs in a discussion of Microsoft products. The 12" MacBook is most definitely a genuine, full-fledged laptop and runs on MacOS, not iOS or some hyped-up hybrid OS. I have iPads and I have the MacBook, plus the MacBook Pro and each of them serves a specific purpose, which is why I purchased them in the first place. There are times when the MBP is the one for the job, other times when sitting out on my deck with an iPad does the trick, and still other times when the MacBook is the tool for the job at hand, especially when traveling. The beauty of this, too, is that all of my Apple devices work seamlessly with each other, too.
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I'll throw in my tuppence on why I got the fully specced version.
I work as an "on the road" consultant for a number of large corporations and smaller companies. I have a "work" windows dell. I use that for signing into VDSs and servers for work. However I needed a life admin laptop for answering accountancy questions, and drafting new ideas together.
I got a MSFT Surface Pro 4 for this purpose. However whenever it does updates it gets extremely hot and noisy and chows down the battery fast as heck. Soo.. it had to go. It was at the time the new rmb 2017 was announced.
I am very impressed at a number of things.
How snappy it is
How light it is
How small it is
I will chuck this in the tablet slot of my laptop bag and keep it there for the "life admin" part of my work.
There is a misunderstanding by a great many people on what this can do.. the i7 version is faster than my mid-2014 rMBPr (Geekbench anyway). It also has a single core performance thats greater than my windows desktop PC with an i7 3770k. Pretty impressive for such a low wattage chip. Also the high cost of the machine partly has to do with Intel charging $396 for the chip.
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The boardroom point is spot on. When I was in the board of a very important decision being made my SP4 decides to start updating "Whurrrrrrrrrr" everyone turned around as if I I had caused a scene.
A fan less discreet MacBook is valuable in these type of scenarios too. I also agree on the travel point too. The keyboard for such a small form factor is brilliant. I can type long emails without fatigue like I had with the SP4.
I work as an "on the road" consultant for a number of large corporations and smaller companies. I have a "work" windows dell. I use that for signing into VDSs and servers for work. However I needed a life admin laptop for answering accountancy questions, and drafting new ideas together.
I got a MSFT Surface Pro 4 for this purpose. However whenever it does updates it gets extremely hot and noisy and chows down the battery fast as heck. Soo.. it had to go. It was at the time the new rmb 2017 was announced.
I am very impressed at a number of things.
How snappy it is
How light it is
How small it is
I will chuck this in the tablet slot of my laptop bag and keep it there for the "life admin" part of my work.
There is a misunderstanding by a great many people on what this can do.. the i7 version is faster than my mid-2014 rMBPr (Geekbench anyway). It also has a single core performance thats greater than my windows desktop PC with an i7 3770k. Pretty impressive for such a low wattage chip. Also the high cost of the machine partly has to do with Intel charging $396 for the chip.
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The boardroom point is spot on. When I was in the board of a very important decision being made my SP4 decides to start updating "Whurrrrrrrrrr" everyone turned around as if I I had caused a scene.
A fan less discreet MacBook is valuable in these type of scenarios too. I also agree on the travel point too. The keyboard for such a small form factor is brilliant. I can type long emails without fatigue like I had with the SP4.
Just unboxed and set up my brand new pink computer yay So far so good, "klein aber fein" (small but great) as we say in German
So far so good, "klein aber fein" (small but great) as we say in German 
Strongly considering selling my 15" Pro (2016) and buying 12" (2017), plus a little cash left over (not as much as I'd like, though)... I got a great deal on the 15" Pro, so it's not financially a big loss but I wonder if down the road I will regret it...
Power-wise, there's no comparison. The 12" MacBook is a lot slower than the 15" for sure.
However, if all you are doing is light tasks like watching Youtube videos, writing documents, preparing presentations, and coding/designing work, then I think you'll find the 12" MacBook plenty powerful for those tasks. In fact, I love it as a device that I can use to code anywhere, even on a bed, and I have fallen asleep with it running an algorithm while wrapped in a blanket multiple times without things going haywire. I could never try that with the 15" Pro.
And it's dead silent at night too so my girlfriend does not give me "the look" that she used to whenever the 15" Pro started whirring its fan. For "discreet" work, it's perfect.
And by 2017, it's working so well with a 4K display that it's now my full-time desktop computer. Unless I need more power (running algorithms that require instant results), I don't take the 15" Pro home anymore, and I just leave it at work indefinitely.
However, if all you are doing is light tasks like watching Youtube videos, writing documents, preparing presentations, and coding/designing work, then I think you'll find the 12" MacBook plenty powerful for those tasks. In fact, I love it as a device that I can use to code anywhere, even on a bed, and I have fallen asleep with it running an algorithm while wrapped in a blanket multiple times without things going haywire. I could never try that with the 15" Pro.
And it's dead silent at night too so my girlfriend does not give me "the look" that she used to whenever the 15" Pro started whirring its fan. For "discreet" work, it's perfect.
And by 2017, it's working so well with a 4K display that it's now my full-time desktop computer. Unless I need more power (running algorithms that require instant results), I don't take the 15" Pro home anymore, and I just leave it at work indefinitely.
That's basically all I do (work in law) so I'm not worried about the power - more the screen real estate (no way around that one) and the fact that the 2015 version I had, nor my friends' 2016 that I tried, would not sit flat on a table. I started a thread about that and it seems to be resolved...
Now - if I really only do word processing, WestLaw searches, etc... should I go to 16GB of RAM anyway?
Day two, probably not really that interesting, but I'ma share it anyway. I'm really starting to fall in love with this tiny machine. It just really seems to be enough monitor-size-wise and the size and weight makes it a joy to use, the 15'' MBP was really weighing me down when I actually had it on my lap. I hated the keyboard at first, but you just have to get used to not hitting it quite as hard, and that happens surprisingly fast. Strangely CS6 runs a lot smoother then on the MBP and Yosemite (I didn't update so there wouldn't be any problems, I was ready to finally pull the plug on CC, but seems like I can get by for a while). This thing is incredibly fast, but that was kind of a given since I hadn't upgraded in a very long time. But still, it works really well and I think this can totally be your only machine. Sure if you want to do 3D rendering and 4K movie editing by all means get an iMac Pro, if you want to design a huge poster with a gazillion layers, then the 15'' monitor is not great either. It's weird, I keep thinking this thing is so tiny, it's going to drive me crazy soon, it just has to. But honestly, day two and I don't see that happening. The strange thing to me is that getting the 12.9 in iPad Pro was the gateway to realizing it's not anymore about maximizing monitor size, the resolution fits a lot on those 12 inches, it's about what is enough and what are the benefits of having a very light machine. I'll be back with more in a couple of weeks, but so far I'm really happy with what I can do on this tiny beautiful thing. The battery life seems to be the biggest issue so far, will have to see how that works out in the longer run.