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How do you feel about the 10.7?

  • Like it (op is just crazy)

    Votes: 197 68.2%
  • Hate it (thank god for time machine)

    Votes: 40 13.8%
  • indifferent

    Votes: 52 18.0%

  • Total voters
    289
Assuming that majority of the people on this forum likes Apple (for god's sake, it's MacRumors FORUM!) I would say more than 60% or 70% will like it.
 
My biggest gripe about this place is if your opinion is part of the minority you get bashed by the majority.

When the title of the thread you start is filled with emotion and hyperbole, why do you expect the responses you get to be any different?
 
Overall I love Lion and there is only one big thing I hate about it and that's the omission of Exposé. Yea, there's still Application Exposé but not the full Exposé. The only alternative is Mission Control and you must be crazy if you think this:

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Other than this and a few other minor gripes, I like everything about Lion.

*In the screenshot I used multiple windows of one app just as an example. It should be like the second screenshot but for all windows of every open app as it is in Snow Leopard IMO.
 
I had to wait five minutes to download a driver for my printer, when I used Snow Leopard I could plug in my printer and I could use it instantly. It's a little disappointing because I like a lot of what I see and could probably get used to this new way.
 
The worst part is that you can't install Snow Leopard on their new hardware.

Mission Control has totally messed everything up, slowed my work flow.

Apple worst OS X release to date.

Technology moves on. And it moves quick. Deal with it.

If mission control is truly "messing everything up" then don't use it.:rolleyes: Plain and simple.

How is it the work release to date?:confused: Please explain this.
 
indifferent for me

hard to give a proper verdict as I have only been using it for less than a day, but I currently find it the most annoying version of OS X I have used
 
Overall it is ok, but these are a few things I don't like:

  • Mission Control - maybe it works better on a desktop, but the windows are harder to identify than with Exposé on a 13-inch screen.
  • The new way alerts pop up on the screen - not everything has to match iOS.
  • Lack of color, particularly in the Finder - color makes it easier to identify objects you need to click on without having to focus on them.
  • Lack of consistency in terms of interface element size - screen resolutions are getting higher, why not have a consistent format for applications to increase the size of their text, interface elements etc - its also silly given this to make the red, yellow and green window controls lower resolution as they must be tiny on a high res display.
  • Address Book - wasted screen space, looks rediculous.
  • The show/hide button - why can't you just double click on the menu item?
  • Scrolling jumps and not always smooth.
 
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whats with all the hate for Lion?

i actually really like it, the small GUI improvments on windows / icons etc is really nice. The mail / address Book / iCal improvements are really nice.

Dont really see the point of launchpad but its a nice feature.

Its just all the small things which make it really nice, like the ability to make a window larger from any side / corner instead of just the one.

All my programs run on lion with ease - but really you guys who say this and that doesnt work...should of really done your research before upgrading.
 
I don't hate Lion, I only hate the slowness of the GUI. My computer is 2 years old and Windows 7 flies on it with all that 3D Aero crap. Lion is like playing a game at a low fps.
 
Snow Leopard gestures were perfect...

Hiding Applications: SL- Four Fingers Up (Makes sense cause you move it away) in Lion you have this hard wonky gesture with your thumb. Very hard.
Mission Control/Expose: SL - Four Fingers Up Lion- Three/Four Fingers Down. Annoying!
Back/Forward in Apps like Safari/Chrome: SL - Three Fingers Left or Right... Lion- Disabled by default for full screen apps.

I found that an easier way of doing this is, instead of doing the the "claw" thing, place your four fingers, horizontally on the trackpad, closely together, then spread em... :D
 
Mission Control broke Spaces and Expose. It is useless for multiple monitors or if you use lots of windows. If I can't find my content then my computer is essentially useless.
 
10.6 was released in 2008, it's not a minor update by any stretch!

Apple is obsessed with keeping the OSX name...therefore they release each major release as a single point. And release all increments as sub points.

The last version of 10.6 was 10.6.8.

If it weren't for OSX this would actually be Mac OS16.

Snow Leopard was released August 28, 2009.
 
I love Lion, but one thing I don't like is - the 2 finger swipe to go back and forward in Safari - why doesn't it also go back and forward in Finder?
 
there are a few things i dont like, mostly with gesture changes

personally, I would like be able to create my own gestures.
the 3 finger and thumb pinch spread thing sucks. Lauchpad - great; gesture to open it - terrible.
Also the 2 fingers for back a page isn't sensitive enough. I have move my hand almost across the whole trackpad to get it to change. Wheras previously is was a quick snap and it was back.
speaking of back, 2 fingers and 3 fingers are so close that half the time i go back I accidently hit the 3 finger down and since that gesture is more sentive, I change screens instead. FRUSTRATING!
also, I dont like the none incremental zoom for the webpages.
and "natural" scolling is dumb if not on a touchscreen device. It works on those, becuase you are "grabing" a part of the screen and "dragging" it down. but on the trackpad, you can't "grab" the screen.
 
I want to comment on your issue with the Cisco VPN. If you hold down "3" and "2" (to boot into 32-bit kernel extension mode), you vpn should work-I say this because I have an older version of the VPN software and it recently stopped working for me unless I booted into 32-bit kernel extension mode. Do that and the VPN should not give you that dreaded "error 51" message, which is what I am guessing you are seeing.
 
OP is insane, and people need to give Lion a good week or two of use before making such rash judgments. The only thing I see that really needs improvement immediately is the apparent memory leak in Safari 5.1
 
I completely disagree. Apples mantra is "it just works". How does this qualify?
I have read a lot about it and have posted a few times. How can something be fixed if there is not a complaint made? How is "uncle steve" supposed to get his people to fix it?

My biggest gripe about this place is if your opinion is part of the minority you get bashed by the majority. This idea that everyone knows part x or program y is broken is false. There is so much information that sometimes it hard to find what your looking for.

Let us complain a bit, vent our frustrations and find as much as we can so the powers that be can fix the problem.

I'm sorry I'm not trying to bash you. I'm just stating my opinion in the matter that you found necessary to bring up to the community that resides here.

You can't say the features that lion have don't just work. They just work in the capacity they were created to work for. So it doesn't fit most of us that are power users it will most likely work for most people that just go in and use the computer for general things.


I had to wait five minutes to download a driver for my printer, when I used Snow Leopard I could plug in my printer and I could use it instantly. It's a little disappointing because I like a lot of what I see and could probably get used to this new way.

The reason you could plug and play most printers with snow leopard and before was because the printer drivers were included on the installation disk but that added about another gig and a half of space to the installation disk. Apple removed a lot of bloat from the installation to accommodate the whole getting it from only the app store. I actually prefer it this way because I never liked having drivers for so many different brands of printers when I only used my one canon and hp printer.


Also I just want to address people's complaints over software and apps not working. That isn't apple's fault, apple gave developers over half a year to start developing and updating their apps for lion. If they aren't updated it is the app developers fault not apple. You can't expect apple to not upgrade and change certain things in the underlying system just so apps that can't be upgraded don't break when os x is updated.
 
I actually like Lion, but ever since installing it i have not been able to use the option key at startup to select boot drive (to do a clean install), i even plugged my wired keyboard in and it still doesn't work. I've reinstalled SL and then upgraded to Lion again 3 times to see if it will correct the problem, and it doesn't, I even created a bootable DVD and it won't even recognise that.
 
I'm indifferent in that I haven't tried it, so I can hate/love it. From what I've read it doesn't offer me too much.

I prefer the current SL UI and how things work, so I don't mind sticking with 10.6

Don't change over just yet, I'd say.

We'll see what 10.7.1 or beyond bring.
 
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