Who else is tired of waiting for a much better Apple TV? A remote that can be found...

[nickdalzell1]

Not to mention bluetooth connectivity. I feel like a caveman whenever I have to physically point a remote at an actual device. 😆

You must be really young. I remember actually sitting 4 inches from the 25" console in my grandparent's home watching Nickelodeon in the 80s and being right next to the control knobs and cable set-top box. Being that close made those 25" feel like 50"

Pointing a remote at something today just feels normal for someone my age.

 

[-Gonzo-]

I just want an 8K Apple TV. It’s been forever since an Apple TV has been released.

What would be the point in an 8K ATV right now?
IMO it would add more expense to a new model for no or very little benefit for quite some years to come.

 

[macsareveryinteresting]

What would be the point in an 8K ATV right now?
IMO it would add more expense to a new model for no or very little benefit for quite some years to come.

How would it have very little benefit for quite some years? 8K TVS like just rolled out last year.

 

[-Gonzo-]

How would it have very little benefit for quite some years? 8K TVS like just rolled out last year.

And just how much 8K content is there even available right now?

 

[macsareveryinteresting]

And just how much 8K content is there even available right now?

Samsung 8K TV and more.

 

[-Gonzo-]

Samsung 8K TV and more.

Not talking about TVs, talking about actual 8K content, just what is there that’s available?
For instance just how many Hollywood movies are available in 8K because you’ll unlikely see Apple put out an 8K ATV until there’s enough movies available to even consider it.
And then also of course the vast majority of consumers won’t have the broadband bandwidth to even support it via streaming.

 

[nickdalzell1]

8K would do nothing for me since most of the shows I watch are too old for 1080p much less 4K. I'm not a fan of most modern shows. Plenty of enjoyment from Andy Griffith, Matlock, A-Team, etc.

 

[TVreporter]

The Apple TV 4K was a major improvement over using the Samsung OS. And shows look so much better playing them on the set.

And streaming is a million times better with no lag.

I enjoy the remote - after I added a Finite cover to improve its grip and make it easier to quickly tell which side is correct without looking. I use Siri a lot for searching as well.

And now that I’m venturing into HomeKit the Apple TV makes a handy hub for my nearby smart home devices such as light bulbs and LED strips. Siri works flawlessly with them.

 

[2010mini]

What do you mean by “.... remote that can be found..”

 

[zorinlynx]

Not talking about TVs, talking about actual 8K content, just what is there that’s available?
For instance just how many Hollywood movies are available in 8K because you’ll unlikely see Apple put out an 8K ATV until there’s enough movies available to even consider it.
And then also of course the vast majority of consumers won’t have the broadband bandwidth to even support it via streaming.

Hell, even most *modern* 4K content isn't fully 4K. For example, watch shows like WandaVision and The Mandalorian; if you notice the resolution isn't quite 4K (though it's higher than 1080p); the detail isn't as good as when you look at, for example, a high quality photograph in 4K on the same Apple TV.

I doubt 8K will become anywhere near common any time soon; it's more of a gimmick at this point.

 

[mtnbikerva1]

I will say I like the voice control/Siri on the apple remote. I do not understand why Apple can not figure out how to make it beep, squeak, flash, or something so that it can be found.

 

[subjonas]

I guess I could be angry and rant on a Samsung forum about how my 50" Samsung UHD TV was advertised as a Bixby-voice compatible TV but the remote it shipped with didn't support Bixby at all, but what would that serve?

What purpose does 90% of this forum and conversations in general serve? It’s just conversation for the sake of it. No need to be so strict. Conversation is not always positive, whether in forums or face to face. And side note, I notice the only time people seem to come down on people for voicing negative criticism is when they don’t agree with what the person is saying, never when they do agree.
You should be free to voice a criticism on this or any similar forum, within reason (no spamming). Just as people are free to disagree with or ignore you, and vice versa.

 

[jessejesse]

What a world - when people complain that the remote GETS lost. Remotes don't lose themselves. People lose remotes. I'm a therapist. Think of a better system (put it in the same place every time you use it). The other gripes are legitimate, even if I don't agree. But that one just killed me lol.

 

[nickdalzell1]

Hell, even most *modern* 4K content isn't fully 4K. For example, watch shows like WandaVision and The Mandalorian; if you notice the resolution isn't quite 4K (though it's higher than 1080p); the detail isn't as good as when you look at, for example, a high quality photograph in 4K on the same Apple TV.

I doubt 8K will become anywhere near common any time soon; it's more of a gimmick at this point.

I think the resolution you're thinking of is 1440p. Otherwise known as "Quad HD" or 2K. That's what my Vizio says anyway.

 

[subjonas]

What a world - when people complain that the remote GETS lost. Remotes don't lose themselves. People lose remotes. I'm a therapist. Think of a better system (put it in the same place every time you use it). The other gripes are legitimate, even if I don't agree. But that one just killed me lol.

You don’t sound like a therapist haha. Isn't that just being human to misplace things from time to time? Granted, if one is losing things all the time in general, them the issue probably lies with the person. Maybe they need therapy. But if it’s one particular object that the person is losing more frequently because the product is uncharacteristically small and flat for no reason (doesn’t need to be carried in a pocket all day), then might the problem lie with the design of the product? Shouldn’t products be designed for people, not people for products? The issue can be easily solved by a system or by strapping the remote to your pet or a hundred other ways, but the point, again, is simply that Apple made a bad design choice.

 

[einmusiker]

It’s the worst remote in the history of remotes. Apple has ruined a few good things recently. One of which is the Apple TV remote. The other is replacing Touch ID with Face ID

 

[nickdalzell1]

Does everyone seriously prefer the older remote with the non-rechargeable battery that when you try replacing it, it destroys the remote? You can still get it for $15 and it's even thinner than the current one!

I agree with the part about Touch ID and Face ID. the former was always faster--thank goodness I didn't feel the need to upgrade from the 6S. Got headphone jack too!

 

[zorinlynx]

Does everyone seriously prefer the older remote with the non-rechargeable battery that when you try replacing it, it destroys the remote? You can still get it for $15 and it's even thinner than the current one!

I love the Siri remote. It was a HUGE improvement on the previous remote. It's responsive and works well and I love being able to dictate things instead of having to "type".

Do you remember having to type with the old school silver ATV remote? IT WAS ABSOLUTE HELL ON EARTH. Even if you don't dictate and choose to "type" with the Siri remote it's much faster and easier than the old way.

I still don't know why so many people hate the Siri remote. It's awesome. And it serves as a volume up/down button for my A/V receiver when I'm not using the ATV, too.

 

[nickdalzell1]

I never really liked the older remote either. Mine the battery died a few weeks into me getting that ATV box and I destroyed the remote attempting to replace the battery. It died really quick (the battery). I don't know how this current remote tells you when to recharge or if there's some type of LED or not when doing so (in case you overcharge it) but I have yet to need to charge the thing since I got the ATV 4K a little over a year ago. Granted I've used my Watch and third-party remotes off and on but still.

 

[triptolemus]

ATV remote is indeed garbage. The DirecTV remote is superior in every way -- most importantly, it does not slither away forever into any nearby crack or crevasse. Program up that ATV to listen to your old DTV remote and thank me later.

 

[nickdalzell1]

Omg the DirecTV remote was a mess when I dealt with it during visits to grandma's.

 

[-Gonzo-]

It’s the worst remote in the history of remotes. Apple has ruined a few good things recently. One of which is the Apple TV remote. The other is replacing Touch ID with Face ID

Disagree about TouchID/FaceID, I was originally a massive TouchID advocate and just couldn’t imagine getting a new iPhone without it.
It was one of the reasons I kept my 8 plus for song long, but within a really short time of using the 12 I didn’t miss TouchID one bit as FaceID just works.
List count of the amount of times TouchID failed because there was moisture on my finger or thumb.
Yeah in the current climate there’s the argument about face masks so FaceID doesn’t work, neither does TouchID in the winter when wearing gloves. Thankfully though the next update rectifies the face mask issue if you have an Apple Watch.

 

[einmusiker]

Disagree about TouchID/FaceID, I was originally a massive TouchID advocate and just could imagine getting a new iPhone without it.
It was one of the reasons I kept my 8 plus for song long, but within a really short time of using the 12 I didn’t miss TouchID one bit as FaceID just works.
List count of the amount of times TouchID failed because there was moisture on my finger or thumb.
Yeah in the current climate there’s the argument about face masks so FaceID doesn’t work, neither does TouchID in the winter when wearing gloves. Thankfully though the next update rectifies the face mask issue if you have an Apple Watch.

It’s not even so much about the mask. It’s about having to stare at the screen to turn it on. Extremely inconvenient IMO. I like just grabbing my iPad with my thumb and the screen is already unlocked before I even have to look at it. And I know I know you shouldn’t look at your phone while driving but let’s be realistic...

 

[nickdalzell1]

face ID you have to swipe up, then stare and hope it works. It's also a old feature Android had in version 4.0 in 2010. It's not exactly new or secure, either.

Touch ID is instant. I pull my phone out of pocket, thumb on home button, insta unlock. Never had issues. Yet another feature Apple saw fit to pull without any customer clamoring for it. Companies are supposed to respond to customer demand. No one, NO ONE, asked them to remove Touch ID. Companies need to be re-educated about free-market economics. It's like high school level stuff here!

 

[triptolemus]

Omg the DirecTV remote was a mess when I dealt with it during visits to grandma's.

DTV remote is a mess with DTV because DTV is a mess.

The remote works remarkably well with ATV though (subjectively, sure). Far more functional than the ATV remote. Honestly does a touch surface really belong on a remote? I never liked it.