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Well I really think its right for you to be able to make those assumptions because I'm willing to bet you've never had him as a teacher. And if you did have him as a teacher, you would no that he never told you what you wanted. And I am not even complaining about that. I am talking the laziness in the school system and I think it is getting worse every year.

what about taking points off for things you do not agree with and mostly in formatting stuff that you not expecting it still GET USE TO IT. because it does get worse.

If you think it is bad now wait until college you will truly deal with teacher who do not care and they are the one you start to hate. I have had some hard teachers who have rip in to me for stupid mistake and hell even once was the the one who was rip into in front of the entire class because I blank out on a simple formal and he was kind of tick off. Get use to it. You have not seen anything yet.

Also all the complaining about everything wrong with every single teacher leads me to believe the simple fact that it is not as bad as you say it is and most of the teachers are good. I sorry but the odds that you have almost all your teachers being crap are well next to zero.

That and you seem to think it is bad now how your teachers are. You are in for a true rude awakening in college because it only get worse. Particlle your first 2 years. A lot of the professor try to keep their students at bay and really do not care about them because chance are good they will not see you after that. Now after you become an upperclassmen they treat you a lot better in college because you made it past the weed out classes and are more than likely going to complete you degree. You just seen nothing yet. Just remember it will be a lot worse for you in a few years if you think it is bad now.

Think back when I was in HS I remember teachers I though where crap back then and by the end of that school year or now I think they were great teachers because I have gain new respect though college or I found out what they put me though really did prepare me for what I was going to be facing.
 
what about taking points off for things you do not agree with and mostly in formatting stuff that you not expecting it still GET USE TO IT. because it does get worse.

If you think it is bad now wait until college you will truly deal with teacher who do not care and they are the one you start to hate. I have had some hard teachers who have rip in to me for stupid mistake and hell even once was the the one who was rip into in front of the entire class because I blank out on a simple formal and he was kind of tick off. Get use to it. You have not seen anything yet.

Also all the complaining about everything wrong with every single teacher leads me to believe the simple fact that it is not as bad as you say it is and most of the teachers are good. I sorry but the odds that you have almost all your teachers being crap are well next to zero.

That and you seem to think it is bad now how your teachers are. You are in for a true rude awakening in college because it only get worse. Particlle your first 2 years. A lot of the professor try to keep their students at bay and really do not care about them because chance are good they will not see you after that. Now after you become an upperclassmen they treat you a lot better in college because you made it past the weed out classes and are more than likely going to complete you degree. You just seen nothing yet. Just remember it will be a lot worse for you in a few years if you think it is bad now.

Think back when I was in HS I remember teachers I though where crap back then and by the end of that school year or now I think they were great teachers because I have gain new respect though college or I found out what they put me though really did prepare me for what I was going to be facing.

wasn't my college experience. nearly all the profs at my school treated many of the students with at least a bit of kindness and took them in as a part of a community. of course, i was a teacher's pet for alot of the department teachers (expect one in particular, we didn't really have a good relationship, but they were a good teacher anyway). but then again, my college was very small (2000 full time students) and a 40+ class is considered large around here. i think what you described is probably the norm in most larger colleges, but if you go to a smaller school, the teachers will at least know your name.

just to let you know, expect for a couple of them, i liked all of my teachers that i had. i respect the work that teachers have to go through, especially with bad behaving students and etc. i'm actually considering teaching biology at a local high school next fall (i only have a biology degree, no education degree, so i can teach for two years without education credentials), as my chances are realistic for it, and as a hard worker, i will make sure i put in as much as i can to help my students succeed and learn that biology isn't just facts, but a part of life.

but i think the school system is somewhat flawed as is.
 
wasn't my college experience. nearly all the profs at my school treated many of the students with at least a bit of kindness and took them in as a part of a community. of course, i was a teacher's pet for alot of the department teachers (expect one in particular, we didn't really have a good relationship, but they were a good teacher anyway). but then again, my college was very small (2000 full time students) and a 40+ class is considered large around here. i think what you described is probably the norm in most larger colleges, but if you go to a smaller school, the teachers will at least know your name.

just to let you know, expect for a couple of them, i liked all of my teachers that i had. i respect the work that teachers have to go through, especially with bad behaving students and etc. i'm actually considering teaching biology at a local high school next fall (i only have a biology degree, no education degree, so i can teach for two years without education credentials), as my chances are realistic for it, and as a hard worker, i will make sure i put in as much as i can to help my students succeed and learn that biology isn't just facts, but a part of life.

but i think the school system is somewhat flawed as is.

oh yeah it mostly always in the larger classes. I missed most of those large classes. Inside my major it is another story for the most part because the classes are smaller in size and the prof see you time after time for several classes though out the years. There is a huge change between how they treat people first 2 years of the degree program and the last 2 years. Mostly because a lot of people will change there major/drop out in the first 2 years because the one they chose was not for them or they just could not cut it. Heck I am in engineering and 3/4 of the students I would say in each department are underclassmen. I would say in a department of 400 only 100 or so are in there 3rd year or more. There is just a huge drop out rate. I change my major in the 3rd year to just another department in the college and it really surprised some teachers because of how unheard of it was to do it that late in the game. But there just is a huge change.

Now in the classes I dealt with of 100+ students some time the teacher care but I dealt with some who just give not give a rats ass and where more interested in their research than teaching. They never even look at our work and just let TA do everything. It sucks when you deal with teachers like that who just do not care.

Smaller college the teachers do become more personable with their students and same goes in the larger ones when you get past the first 2 years and class size shrinks a lot.
 
I'll agree, High School is bad. I respected about...oh 3 teachers when I was there, because they would talk to you like a person and more importantly with you instead of down at you. That would normally determine a lot.

Treat others how you want to be treated yourself goes a long way.

However much all of you complain about education and all that, I'm sure a lot of you will want to go onto Higher Education from High School and then you'll realize the importance of your years in High School.
 
Broaden? I don't think learning how many ATP molecules are required during the Calvin cycle is very broad.

its the Krebs Cycle

obviously, you didnt learn.

:D

wasn't my college experience.... but then again, my college was very small (2000 full time students) and a 40+ class is considered large around here.

your "college" was not a University which I believe most would be talking about when they talk about "College" in general.

20,000-50,000 students is more of a norm for colleges, when spoken about in general terms.

so of course YOUR professors get to know the students, because there arent any.
 
I hate the Calvin and Krebbs cycle. I absolutely hate them.

Thats really the only part of bio I don't like. I guess because I had to memorize all the steps.
 
I also have problems with teachers that think that their class is by far the most important taught at the school. I get straight A's in every subject except AP Calculus, which is an A-B mix. If I'm getting a 100% in your class, don't yell at me for using my time in a more effective manner than listening to a lecture on information that I already know - such as doing the two hours per night of homework that each teacher feels that it's necessary to assign.

One final item. When teachers assign work, they should at least have the common decency to grade it and hand it back. My junior-year Honors English teacher still has not given back assignments that I turned in during September of last school year.

well college is worse. most of my classes assign a crapload and have evening tests and yea fun stuff. also had some teachers where we take a scantron test and we get it back 2 months later. all they have to do is run it through a machine lol

it will never end lol
 
Our high school has "random" drug testing for all athletic departments.

I am a good student, I am involved in my community, tennis, student council, advanced leadership, an honorable student... yet every time there is a damn "random" test my name gets picked up... I have taken 4 "random" drug tests this year.

Edit: and I'm sorry, this might not sound like a major inconvenience to you- but I have major stage fright!!! They make you pee in the stall with the door open and someone standing right beside your stall... After my second RANDOM test they made a special rule for me and let me pee in peace.

Yet the joe blows on the basketball team and the football team do not get tested, and if someone from those teams do get tested they are just bench warmers anyways...


I am so ready to get out of high school

Well at our school(I play football and basketball)*(I go to middle school)* i play 1st string linebacker and 2nd string Wide reciever, and of course the QB and Running backs can use who they are to get out of anything. Especially when i have every class with the QB(honors) which brings up my point.
I had a couple of classes with this years QB last year and nothing to offend him cuz hes a friend of mine, but he really isnt as smart as a lot of people who deserve the honors classes. He gets into every honors class with me because he went to a better distrcit for 3 months cuz his dad took him out cuz he was getting in trouble.
Someone care to explain to me?
**About the cell phone thing too,our teacher made a promise that if his phone rang one more time during class, he had to call whoever called him and say not to call him; then to tell his parents he disrupted our class learning time... And then one day it happened and he put his call on speaker then we told his parents what he did..
See at least my teacher knows what he does is wrong to us. and it hasnt rang since
 
at my schoool were not even allowed to listens to ipods BEFORE school

neither are we.. sometimes during Leadership we are allowed to.. sometimes when we aren't supposed to.. we do but our teacher never enforces the rule.. I usually bring mine as a Hard drive for files and assignments in case something goes wrong with them...
 
nickster9224 said:
at my schoool were not even allowed to listens to ipods BEFORE school

Save ten minutes of homework each night to do in the time that you would have spent listening to music and watching Family Guy. Problem solved.
 
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