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Who has considered switching to windows?

Ugh, my new windows 8 laptop keeps running even though I put the top town. Why can't they figure that thing out? Power control on a laptop. Macs have been able to go to sleep and conserve power since the first Mac. Windows still can't do that. And two days after leaving my fully charged new laptop closed on my desk I come home and find battery at 25%. And battery settings are on conservative and I've set the closing of cover to putting the computer to sleep. Now I have figure out another thing about windows that should be standard and the default setting.
 
Renzatic said:
I see stories like this all the time on Mac forums, and I have to wonder...

...what are you people doing to your computers? I reinstall Windows once every 3 years or so, usually whenever a new version comes out. I never have trouble booting up, installing anything, haven't caught a virus since 2001 (and when I did, it was due to stupidity on my part),
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Seriously.

and experience BSOD's about once every 5 years.
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Just about all the ones I've had have been related to me being cheap and buying 'outdated' budget hardware that ended up being defective. The motherboard I've got on my gaming machine right now only likes one memory slot being used, for whatever reason. But I built the computer for $500 and it can play anything I can throw at it. You know what? Spending a few hours figuring that out, is STILL worth the hundreds and hundreds of dollars saved when compared to a mac of similar hardware specs. When I've spent the money for a decent machine, I don't have problems.

The major reason I've never made a mad dash for OSX is because I've never had many issues with Windows.
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Yeah, OS to OS, I've never noticed anything that made me get truly frustrated or wowed me. Hardware quality control on apple computers seems better, definitely.

But it better be, for the price difference.

Granted, there are quite a few advantages OSX has over Windows. But from my experiences, stability isn't one of them.
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It seems like most of my stability issues on both platforms are the result of flash being ****.:p
 
Stability isn't an advantage over windows?

In what world?


I've had a mac since February and have yet to have yr freeze or have a crash. I could never go a month without a crash on Windows 7.
 
I will be going back to a Windows PC once Haswell releases come out in the next week-ish.

Microsoft since Win7 and Intel/OEMs since Ultrabooks have made amazing strides in the past couple of years. The Apple premium is no longer with an Apple product. I'll still use my Snow Leopard running MacBook (Late 2006) as a media/download device, but that'll be it.
 
thehustleman said:
Stability isn't an advantage over windows?

In what world?


I've had a mac since February and have yet to have yr freeze or have a crash. I could never go a month without a crash on Windows 7.
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Go spend $2000 on a PC. It'll be rock solid unless you try to install everything under the sun on it. If you're comparing your $300 Toshiba to a $1500 mac, well, that's a different story ;)
 
thejadedmonkey said:
Go spend $2000 on a PC. It'll be rock solid unless you try to install everything under the sun on it. If you're comparing your $300 Toshiba to a $1500 mac, well, that's a different story ;)
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You don't even need to spend that much. Good, quality computers that don't use any shrimpy half-assed parts start at around around $800.

Windows is only as good as the computer you're putting it on. You don't have to buy the fastest, but you want the parts with the highest quality. For example, I've got Windows 8 running on a Opteron 185 with 4GB DDR1. It's like 6-7 years old now. I'm sure even the Air beats it on pure processing power and memory throughput. Yet I never have any problems with it. No hiccups. No crashes. No issues whatsoever. That's because when I built that computer, I used only high quality parts from well known manufacturers (EVGA, Asus, and Corsair).

You get what you pay for.
 
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SnowLeopard2008 said:
For consumers, legacy APIs are essentially wasted disk space. For my workstation at work, I use all sorts of "legacy" software. Different users. Also, I have to test my software load on XP, 7 and 8. I sometimes need to modify things because certain stuff runs into errors on different platforms. I also do Mac dev work, most of my Xcode projects still work and run just fine from years ago. The only problems I get are implementation which don't affect performance (at my scope) as much as just newer style of coding and using the API. I find OS X to break less stuff as new versions are out. But this is subjective.
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You're funny. I have "legacy" games such as Diablo II (still sold in Walmart today!) that don't run on OS X. And also if you're running a code server it should be headless and UI-less. Anything else is poorly setup, and you should find a different system admin at your workplace.
 
thejadedmonkey said:
Go spend $2000 on a PC. It'll be rock solid unless you try to install everything under the sun on it. If you're comparing your $300 Toshiba to a $1500 mac, well, that's a different story ;)
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I did spend 2000 on my pc.

That's what the 27" imac goes for.


Osx is more stable
 
No. Just no.

The Windows machine at work reminds me every time I use it why I use a MacBook at home.

Heck, the phone calls from my parents needing help with their Window computers makes me love my MacBook even more....

Plus, the thought of doing anything with the registry and networking on Windows machine ever again is going to give me nightmares....

So, no.... never..... *shudders*
 
thehustleman said:
I did spend 2000 on my pc.

That's what the 27" imac goes for.

Osx is more stable
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Wait. Did you spend $2000 on a PC, or on a Mac?

Like I said earlier, everyone has different experiences. As surprising as it is for some people to believe, there are people out there who have had nothing but trouble out of their Macs, and think OSX is crap because of it. Same goes the other way around (as it seems to be your case). Sometimes you're just unlucky.

But generally speaking, crashes on both OSX and Windows are due to hardware faults 99.5% of the time. It takes an inordinate amount of bad coding to crash an MS OS post-Vista, almost to the point where someone would have to do it on purpose to get it to happen.

Like I had a game crash my graphics card here a few months ago. Back in the day, this would've been a catastrophic failure that'd take the whole OS down with it. All it did was give me a blank screen for a second or two, then send me back to the desktop with a pop-up warning saying Windows recovered from a serious error.

Everything went on normally after that. Didn't have to reboot just to make sure everything ran smoothly or anything like that.

OSX and Windows are about equally stable these days.
 
No. Never.

I have to use Photoshop CS6 on a (very expensive) fully decked out 'Boxx Tech' Windows 7 machine, and the experience is just nasty. It's supposed to be a fantastic workstation for artists, but in reality it's nothing but a huge step back from my own 2010 Mac Pro. The hardware+OS combination just feels discordant, compared to the Apple solution.
 
Lone Deranger said:
No. Never.

I have to use Photoshop CS6 on a (very expensive) fully decked out 'Boxx Tech' Windows 7 machine, and the experience is just nasty. It's supposed to be a fantastic workstation for artists, but in reality it's nothing but a huge step back from my own 2010 Mac Pro. The hardware+OS combination just feels discordant, compared to the Apple solution.
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Man, I'm playing the offensive today...

That might be due to less to problems with the OS itself, and more with you being more comfortable with one OS over the other.
 
Renzatic said:
Wait. Did you spend $2000 on a PC, or on a Mac?

Like I said earlier, everyone has different experiences. As surprising as it is for some people to believe, there are people out there who have had nothing but trouble out of their Macs, and think OSX is crap because of it. Same goes the other way around (as it seems to be your case). Sometimes you're just unlucky.

But generally speaking, crashes on both OSX and Windows are due to hardware faults 99.5% of the time. It takes an inordinate amount of bad coding to crash an MS OS post-Vista, almost to the point where someone would have to do it on purpose to get it to happen.

Like I had a game crash my graphics card here a few months ago. Back in the day, this would've been a catastrophic failure that'd take the whole OS down with it. All it did was give me a blank screen for a second or two, then send me back to the desktop with a pop-up warning saying Windows recovered from a serious error.

Everything went on normally after that. Didn't have to reboot just to make sure everything ran smoothly or anything like that.

OSX and Windows are about equally stable these days.
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A MAC is a PC.

Do you not know what PC stands for?

It stands for "personal computer"


Also it's the OS.

When I had windows ME it crashed frequently, xp crashes but not frequently

Windows 7 on a high quality custom built machine works very well and only crashes about once a month.

My mac has yet to crash
 
Also it's the OS.

When I had windows ME it crashed frequently, xp crashes but not frequently

Windows 7 on a high quality custom built machine works very well and only crashes about once a month.

My mac has yet to crash
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ME was terrible. XP would've been decent, but still suffered from Windows rot and the horrible idea to make everyone an admin without specifically implemented elevation rights. 7? It never crashes, not unless you have something wrong with the underlying hardware.

So the question is, what were you doing when it crashed?
 
Renzatic said:
ME was terrible. XP would've been decent, but still suffered from Windows rot and the horrible idea to make everyone an admin without specifically implemented elevation rights. 7? It never crashes, not unless you have something wrong with the underlying hardware.

So the question is, what were you doing when it crashed?
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Was using Chrome, itunes, and YouTube
 
Renzatic said:
Yeah, you had to have something wrong with your computer. I have all three open up all the time, and the worst that happens is a tab sometimes going unresponsive.
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That happens all the time.

But then I installed Ubuntu and there wasn't a problem at all
 
thejadedmonkey said:
You're funny. I have "legacy" games such as Diablo II (still sold in Walmart today!) that don't run on OS X. And also if you're running a code server it should be headless and UI-less. Anything else is poorly setup, and you should find a different system admin at your workplace.
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Right. I'm sure Intel's servers are poorly setup. I mean, Intel's IT versus you, they have to be 100% wrong right?
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
Right. I'm sure Intel's servers are poorly setup. I mean, Intel's IT versus you, they have to be 100% wrong right?
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Probably. I've never move heard what you're suggesting be considered a 'best practice'. That said, I'm sure Intel can afford to have the latest server money can buy, so its less likely to fail from a memory leak or such.
 
thejadedmonkey said:
Probably. I've never move heard what you're suggesting be considered a 'best practice'. That said, I'm sure Intel can afford to have the latest server money can buy, so its less likely to fail from a memory leak or such.
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Nor did I bill it as such. Also, best practice isn't a fixed thing. It differs depending on what the client needs/wants.
 
thehustleman said:
That happens all the time.

But then I installed Ubuntu and there wasn't a problem at all
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That's it. The problem must be Windows. Not badly written drivers off hardware manufacturers or anything like that. Defiantly Windows. Evil Windows.
 
GKDAIR said:
I was just over at another forum for PC users, and it's a general forum, I just happened to be on the PC specific side, but I swear nearly 7/10 topics were from people having errors with their computers.
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People will generally only post when experiencing a problem, it's few and far between that users will post about how their computer hasn't had a problem on a particular day, so nothing unusual about those numbers really.

As for switching back to a pc it all depends on usage. If your a graphic designer a mac is the obvious choice, a keen gamer, you'd be mad not to use a PC. A general user, it's down to which environment you find easiest to work in.

Personally I choose to have both, why not have your cake and eat it?
 
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