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Who left Lion, and reverted to SL?
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I put Lion on my MBP on day one and on my MP the next day. After two days I reverted the MP back to SL via Time Machine (worked great). I decided to work with Lion for a while on the laptop. Some of the swiping stuff was OK and FileVault 2 was much appreciated. As time went on I disabled, dumped or reskinned much of the Lion stuff I didn't like. In the end I just like SL much better so I did a SL fresh install.
I'm wondering if some of the difference between the Lion lovers and Lion haters is due to machine type and size. On a 24in monitor the lack of a usable Spaces, the worthlessness of full screen mode and the still ugly iCal and Address Book really ruined my computing experience.
On a small laptop much of that iOS small screen stuff might come in handy. It makes me think that SL is a fantastic OS designed for real, full-sized computers that could have used a few additional tools for those working on small screens.
On the other hand Lion is an OS designed for smaller screens that managed to ruin some of the full-screen tools and be less artistic and adult looking at the same time.
I'm wondering if some of the difference between the Lion lovers and Lion haters is due to machine type and size. On a 24in monitor the lack of a usable Spaces, the worthlessness of full screen mode and the still ugly iCal and Address Book really ruined my computing experience.
On a small laptop much of that iOS small screen stuff might come in handy. It makes me think that SL is a fantastic OS designed for real, full-sized computers that could have used a few additional tools for those working on small screens.
On the other hand Lion is an OS designed for smaller screens that managed to ruin some of the full-screen tools and be less artistic and adult looking at the same time.
joeybuckets
macrumors 6502
i want to do this for my Imac, how did u go about doing it? i have Time machine backups as well
jji7skyline
macrumors 6502
I'm sticking with lion... I'm sure most of the bugs will get fixed eventually, and I have both on a disk 😀
MartiNZ
macrumors 65816
Just had another run-in with autosave/versions. A pretty common operation I would warrant, crop a PDF then print to PDF again to ensure it actually is cropped, and save as same title. Then try to close the original ... do you want to save changes or revert ... umm WHAT? In that case it's just totally backwards, reverting saves the changes, goodness knows what saving would do. Now I'm not even sure what document I ended up sending....
How on Earth do you view crop box / media box in Preview in Lion anyway?
I'm every day closer to grabbing that SL box 🙁. I've never even considered reverting an OS X version before, and have been on board since 10.1.2. Phenomenal.
How on Earth do you view crop box / media box in Preview in Lion anyway?
I'm every day closer to grabbing that SL box 🙁. I've never even considered reverting an OS X version before, and have been on board since 10.1.2. Phenomenal.
mrmister
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I had never considered reverting before...but Apple had nevermade a new version that dumbs-down the system in favor of gimmicks...and then as though that's not enough, is *buggier* than any release I've experienced since Cheetah.
30% upgrading to Snow Leopard? I hope so. I hope enough user base stays behind that it becomes an issue for them, so that they might have to actually care.
30% upgrading to Snow Leopard? I hope so. I hope enough user base stays behind that it becomes an issue for them, so that they might have to actually care.
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I run Lion on a 2009 Mac Mini with a 7200 RPM 500GB HDD. 3GB RAM
I am running into a lot of problems that interfere with my day-to-day work. Safari just feels slower, and I can't tell you how many times a day it just locks up for 5 minutes.
I use two monitors, and my mouse disappears when shifting to my secondary monitor about 40% of the time.
My apps "feel" slower. I have not measured them But even with a harddrive that I upgraded from a 5K to a 7KRPM drive, apps on Lion feel slower. Especially Adobe.
I will admit that there are some features I like in Lion... but I am on the cusp of downgrading, and likely will if Apple is as slow as usual about fixing bugs.
Lion does almost feel like a late ßeta
I run Lion on a 2009 Mac Mini with a 7200 RPM 500GB HDD. 3GB RAM
I am running into a lot of problems that interfere with my day-to-day work. Safari just feels slower, and I can't tell you how many times a day it just locks up for 5 minutes.
I use two monitors, and my mouse disappears when shifting to my secondary monitor about 40% of the time.
My apps "feel" slower. I have not measured them But even with a harddrive that I upgraded from a 5K to a 7KRPM drive, apps on Lion feel slower. Especially Adobe.
I will admit that there are some features I like in Lion... but I am on the cusp of downgrading, and likely will if Apple is as slow as usual about fixing bugs.
Lion does almost feel like a late ßeta
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Wow. 400+ votes and >30% have gone back to SL.
Bertrand Serlet's timing was impeccable, it seems... 😉
Bertrand Serlet's timing was impeccable, it seems... 😉
That is the one thing that is killing Lion for me so far. CIFS/SMB connections to Lion are just flat broken. From Lion > Windows works for me, Lion > Lion works, Windows > Lion or hardware that requires CIFS shares > Lion connections don't work properly or don't work at all. I haven't switched back yet, but this is making things very painful.
I wanted to like Lion, I really tried hard to use it but all the bugs and useless features forced me back to SL.
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InuNacho
macrumors 68010
I went down to a nearby Apple Store and tried Lion and FCPX for the first time and it didn't go to well. I tried scrolling through the Applications folder and got nowhere until I remembered that stupid "natural scrolling" thing. Next up I opened up quite a few windows and tried Mission Control and got lost looking for a Finder window. Maybe it was the Cinema Display's resolution or the 10 odd windows open, but finding anything was a pain in the rear.
I really wanted to bring a flash drive with some of my favorite PPC games on them just to see the error message, but I left it at home by mistake.
Luckily my next Mac is going to be a 2010 Pro so the only time I have to deal with Lion is when it's being wiped and Snow Leopard is put on it.
I really wanted to bring a flash drive with some of my favorite PPC games on them just to see the error message, but I left it at home by mistake.
Luckily my next Mac is going to be a 2010 Pro so the only time I have to deal with Lion is when it's being wiped and Snow Leopard is put on it.
Personally I hated what they did with Finder, and the new things they added didn't do much for me except raise my blood pressure. The bottom line is with Lion my productivity went down and my aggravation went up. I didn't see that changing, so I went back to SL.
I use Lion on my internal 500 GB HD, and I have SL on my external 500 GB HD. I mostly just use Lion, but I have SL because it is compatible with Rosseta, and uses an eighth the RAM so running Windows 7 via VMware is so much faster. I do, however, use Lion 9/10ths of the time.
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I also reverted back to SL 10.6.8 after 3days of using lion os x.. encountered a lot of instabilities...
I also reverted back to SL 10.6.8 after 3days of using lion os x.. encountered a lot of instabilities...
I have given up with Lion and reverted. The reasons were wifi was still an issue, grey screens, ipod classic failed to sync, WD my passport not working and a couple of Power PC programs that are still under development for Lion compatibility. All issues are now resolved with the move back to SL.
When the bugs are fixed and my software is updated, I may consider the move again. But I don't feel I am missing anything...
When the bugs are fixed and my software is updated, I may consider the move again. But I don't feel I am missing anything...
steadysignal
macrumors 6502a
tried lion day one...reverted almost immediately when several apps I use daily did not work (1password, especially - how it is that agilebits did not nail this upgrade is uncertain to me.)
i am back on lion on a few of my systems and am getting used to it now.
its a shame, the past few upgrades were flawless for me.
we'll see...
i am back on lion on a few of my systems and am getting used to it now.
its a shame, the past few upgrades were flawless for me.
we'll see...
Finder is terrible
I am sticking with Lion for the moment but what they have done to the finder is terrible. I hate the apology for a scroll bar, it is useless. And as for active buttons being barely darker than inactive ones is this supposed to make it easier to use? The changes to iCal and Address book are tasteless and counter productive and the 'natural' scrolling only works if you think you are moving the document rather than moving the window on the document. When you look at a paper document do you move your eyes up and down and left and right or do you stare fixedly on one point on your desk and move the page? It's just plain wrong, a Mac is NOT an iPad. I don't mind the things you can change back because I've changed them back but the stuff that's plain missing or broken is very poor. I haven't changed back but for the first time I am considering it- I wonder if my new Air will run on SL?
I am sticking with Lion for the moment but what they have done to the finder is terrible. I hate the apology for a scroll bar, it is useless. And as for active buttons being barely darker than inactive ones is this supposed to make it easier to use? The changes to iCal and Address book are tasteless and counter productive and the 'natural' scrolling only works if you think you are moving the document rather than moving the window on the document. When you look at a paper document do you move your eyes up and down and left and right or do you stare fixedly on one point on your desk and move the page? It's just plain wrong, a Mac is NOT an iPad. I don't mind the things you can change back because I've changed them back but the stuff that's plain missing or broken is very poor. I haven't changed back but for the first time I am considering it- I wonder if my new Air will run on SL?
deadlystriker
macrumors regular
The 2011 MacBook airs will not be able to run 10.6 snow leopard. Apple has purposely released lion and refreshed the MBAs on the same day so they will be stuck with lion.
Lol suddenly older mac machines became more valuable, just because they can run on older versions of mac os x!!! I'm not purchasing a lion machine that can't run leopard or SL. I also don't understand Apple's policy that don't provide drivers for the older versions of mac osx.
Because Apple is innovating things so quickly they can't maintain even code that is just a few years old. (e.g., the impending iCloud release this fall).
Microsoft on the other hand is so entrenched in the corporate world they have no choice but to keep their legacy products going for as long as possible.
Like it or hate it... that's just how it works when you back a company with a very small market share in the PC industry.
I'm going to go back to Snow Leopard on my 2011 13" Macbook Pro. I already got a refund for Lion. Why go back? My wifi still doesn't work, even after 10.7.1. I've done everything that I've read, which includes resetting the SMC and PRAM, creating a new location profile, setting the IPv6 to local link only, using a bash script to ping Google, using Google's DNS servers, removing various Airport plist files, deleting and readding 802.1x networks and creating an 802.1x WPA2 Enterprise profile with the iPhone configuration utility.
Thank GOD I bought it in late May. That means I got a physical install disc that I can do a clean install from. None of this recovery partition BS where you can't even do a clean install from one...
Thank GOD I bought it in late May. That means I got a physical install disc that I can do a clean install from. None of this recovery partition BS where you can't even do a clean install from one...
Ropie
macrumors regular
I did a clean install back to SL (on my 2007 MBP) this weekend.
Reasons:
It sent the temperature of my MBP through the roof at most times;
Preview kept opening old files and kept crashing;
Not able to use clamshell mode with the screen open but switched off;
Didn't want to upgrade Parallels again.
I don't really miss any of the new features from Lion like the new Mail layout or Launchpad, which I didn't like anyway, although I had got to quite like Mission Control.
I can always upgrade again at a later date if I really need to and have no intention of applying for a refund. At the moment though, SL works much better on my system and serves all my needs.
Reasons:
It sent the temperature of my MBP through the roof at most times;
Preview kept opening old files and kept crashing;
Not able to use clamshell mode with the screen open but switched off;
Didn't want to upgrade Parallels again.
I don't really miss any of the new features from Lion like the new Mail layout or Launchpad, which I didn't like anyway, although I had got to quite like Mission Control.
I can always upgrade again at a later date if I really need to and have no intention of applying for a refund. At the moment though, SL works much better on my system and serves all my needs.