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Well, unless you jailbreak without diong this:

http://www.cultofmac.com/how-to-change-your-iphones-default-ssh-password/20871

Then you're worse off than a stock phone. I wonder how many people jailbreak without knowing that? Oh, look...it's something else I had to learn by reading blogs. This is my point. There's a ton of stuff to learn. It's not as simple as pushing a button.

When I jailbreak my phone SSH is not enabled on my phone. So I don't need to change my password.

Huh? No, those security issues are NOT present on a non-jailbroken phone. Otherwise you could run non-Apple apps on a phone without jailbreaking it.
In order to jailbreak your phone you have exploit a security flaw in the stock version of the phone.
 
When I jailbreak my phone SSH is not enabled on my phone. So I don't need to change my password.

And that's fine, but how did you know that? You had to read about it, right? And now you understand it.

I commend the folks who learn all about jailbreaking and understand what they're doing. But I greatly dislike the "you don't have to understand it...just do it!" attitude I see around MR a lot. That's not a healthy lesson to be teaching people.

I think Jailbreaking is cool, but I wish people would say "take your time" rather than "don't think, it's fast!"
 
And that's fine, but how did you know that? You had to read about it, right? And now you understand it.

I commend the folks who learn all about jailbreaking and understand what they're doing. But I greatly dislike the "you don't have to understand it...just do it!" attitude I see around MR a lot. That's not a healthy lesson to be teaching people.

I think Jailbreaking is cool, but I wish people would say "take your time" rather than "don't think, it's fast!"

by default ssh isn't enabled. Unless you are making a custom ipsw.(i'm not sure if that is even enabled by default that way either). Probably the hardest thing about to do with jailbreaking is understanding what restore mode is and what DFU mode. Other than that, most jailbreaking programs have on screen instructions.
 
I love the new "Dislike" button, it makes you think twice before reading a thread which has "-10" in reputation.
 
:rolleyes:

Regardless of anecdotal evidence to the contrary, jailbreaking IS a security risk. That's how it works. It's a crucial part of what jailbreaking "is". You've bypassed the signed certificate and sandbox model of iOS apps.

Whether or not you have any issues is another matter, of course, but please don't say that there aren't any security concerns from jailbreaking. There most certainly are.

If you're right, then I may have spoken too soon and I welcome the chance to learn more about the iPhone's security. I think the next step is to quantify the security risks. What are they exactly and what will my phone become vulnerable to which it was not vulnerable to before the jailbreak? How often could such a risk be exploited and what would be the consequences: A complete remote access to my phone or simply a springboard crash?

I ask because I still feel the advantages to a jb phone (which I will be happy to elaborate on if needed) would outweigh the potential (minimal??) security risks.

Fill me in if I'm wrong!
Thanks.
 
I love the new "Dislike" button, it makes you think twice before reading a thread which has "-10" in reputation.

Thanks for the tip! Didn't even notice it till I read your post... would of saved me having to read this thread :rolleyes:
 
Untrackerd on BigBoss. It continuously cleans the location file.
Users in the hacks forum have been talking about this; it came out the day after news broke about Apple's tracking.
People in the JB community can react faster to security and privacy exploits. For example, JB users got the PDF exploit fixed before stock iOS users did.
name/repo?
 
If you're right, then I may have spoken too soon and I welcome the chance to learn more about the iPhone's security. I think the next step is to quantify the security risks. What are they exactly and what will my phone become vulnerable to which it was not vulnerable to before the jailbreak? How often could such a risk be exploited and what would be the consequences: A complete remote access to my phone or simply a springboard crash?

I ask because I still feel the advantages to a jb phone (which I will be happy to elaborate on if needed) would outweigh the potential (minimal??) security risks.

Fill me in if I'm wrong!
Thanks.

It's all about potential. Because there is no validation / certification of apps, you're trusting the developers to not do anything malicious. And because the sandbox has been broken, once you've installed a malicious app, they have access to everything on the system. There's no isolation of apps and system-level code/access. It's all free game.
 
I jailbroke mine after saying I wouldn't for a long time. First app I downloaded from Cydia made my phone seize up and generally go mental the first time I opened it. I went straight back!
 
you're just doing it wrong

That's the crux of the issue. JB can be very powerful and stable, but it requires significant effort. You will need to keep up to date on the current issues/lingo and have a strong tolerance for troubleshooting.
 
I didnt jailbreake. I dont have the need for customization, i like iOS the way it is. And i dont need a ton of apps, i have a few that serve me well and thats it. And i also appreciate the ability to upgrade to a new iOS the moment it comes.
 
Fact: Ignorance is the #1 reason for not jailbreaking.

You know, some people just don't have the need to jailbreak. That doesn't make them ignorant. You are more ignorant than them just for making a sweeping generalization based on your own personal needs and perceptions.
 
You know, some people just don't have the need to jailbreak. That doesn't make them ignorant. You are more ignorant than them just for making a sweeping generalization based on your own personal needs and perceptions.

I never said that isn't a valid reason, I just stated what the #1 reason is.
 
I never said that isn't a valid reason, I just stated what the #1 reason is.

I respectfully disagree. 'Ignorance' is an over simplification of the reasoning and not the root cause. For the vast majority it's a simple lack of interest to make the commitment.

While JB isn't difficult, it does require an ongoing investment of time in order to understand the process, risks and issues. For most people the perceived benefits don't justify this investment.

Most people I know who run 'stock' do understand the JB process and have been JB in the past; however, they no longer have the interest to maintain the skill set.

'Ignorance' isn't the reason that people don't JB. 'Ignorance' is the result of a lack of interest in JB.
 
Nope, it's what you think. I haven't seen other people agreeing with this
and I don't blame them.

I get what he was saying, but clearly you don't. He's saying that the term 'jailbreaking' has negative connotations, and suggests to the casual user that it is illegal and wrong somehow. He's not saying that it is illegal or damaging in any way.

Subtle difference.
 
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My iPhone 4 isn't jailbroken, simply because it does what I want it to out of the box.
 
My iPhone 4 isn't jailbroken, simply because it does what I want it to out of the box.

Finally, someone understands what jailbreaking is really about.

This is probably the most valid response you can give for not wanting to jailbreak your phone. As opposed to the majority of people assuming it's just making your phone "look different"
 
I'm not jailbroken and probably never will be. I just don't see what positives it would offer me whilst meaning I couldn't update as and when updates come out.

It does what I want it to do and so far I haven't thought or heard of anything that jailbreaking would allow me to do that I really need or want.
 
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