who on here is NOT jailbroken and ...

[bbhegedus]

False. It removes the sandbox restrictions on apps. Anything you download can now possibly have access to the system settings / files that are not available to unJB'ed phones. That's how jailbreaking gives you access to a lot of the "super cool features". Unfortunately, it's also a huge security risk.

Plus, you're trusting the developers to not inject malicious code into the apps you're installing.

If you can't see the potential for attack vectors in either/both of those things, there's not much I can do to explain them more.

It poses a security risk for people that don't know what their doing. I don't install jb apps from sources I don't trust, make sure apps are always compatible with my device and FW, and dont pirate apps.

I'm involved a lot in the jaibreak community and know what to install and what not to install. Plus, there are moderators of the repositories that host the packages that remove all harmful apps, tweaks and themes should they pose any risk.

Just like on a computer, know what you're downloading and you'll be fine.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Maybe if it wasn't called JAIL-BREAKING meaning an illegal-damaging thing...

Maybe if it would have been called, TURBO-ENABLING it would be way more mainstream.

 

[George Knighton]

It poses a security risk for people that don't know what their doing. I don't install jb apps from sources I don't trust, make sure apps are always compatible with my device and FW, and dont pirate apps.

I'm involved a lot in the jaibreak community and know what to install and what not to install. Plus, there are moderators of the repositories that host the packages that remove all harmful apps, tweaks and themes should they pose any risk.

It sounds like you agree with the previous poster that there is a potential for security problems.

Saying that you need to know what you are doing requires a little more insight for jailbreakers than it does for regular users of computers.

Just one man's opinion, of course.

I wish that Apple would be just a little more helpful and open minded about some things, and I wish that the developers of some very useful applications like MCleaner and iBlacklist would do what Apple needs for them to do.

As the firmwares have developed over the past couple of years, there's less and less a reason for people to jump onto the jailbreaking band wagon. If Apple can take it just a couple of steps farther and still provide the security they want us to have, then the jailbreak phenomenon could either disappear completely, or progress with the tacit support of Apple.

Just one man's dream, of course.

 

[Lycanthroat]

Maybe if it wasn't called JAIL-BREAKING meaning an illegal-damaging thing...

Maybe if it would have been called, TURBO-ENABLING it would be way more mainstream.

I'm going to assume you're kidding, because "turbo-enabling" sounds terrible

As a long-time member of the PSP hacking community (or what's left of it), it makes me laugh when I see people worrying over jailbreaking (note - not hacking). Jailbreaking is harmless to the phone and is completely irreversible, unlike hacking the PSP. There is a reason it's not called "iPhone hacking" because hacking involves a lot more than using redsn0w and its ilk - "bricking" is a term used when the CFW enabling process on the PSP goes horribly wrong and you break your PSP, as you're actually flashing the RAM. God, I remember being terrified everytime I did it (I never messed it up thankfully). It is impossible to "brick" an iPhone.

Why do I jailbreak? Because it's fun, I like customising the appearance of the interface, I love SBSettings and biteSMS and I like experimenting with all the little tweaks on Cydia. Tweaks like Pull to Refresh and FakeClockUp are awesome.

 

[ct2k7]

It is impossible to "brick" an iPhone.

Unless you destroy a flash chip inside, somehow.

 

[uiop.]

I'd gladly jailbreak a device that wasn't my primary phone/lifeline. But it is and I don't care to take the chance. I was into jailbreaking when I had my 2G iPhone and my iPhone 3G and the reliability was just terrible. Not to mention the headache you had to go through if you wanted to update the phone.

 

[roadbloc]

why not?

I cba. I've got better things to be doing with my time.

 

[dellAbait]

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I jb for two main reasons

Lockinfo - saves me so much time on emails and messaging. It also enhances the push notification system tenfold.

Backgrounder - so i can actually multitask on the device!

The fact that these are not standard features is mind boggling.

Activator and sbs settings are nice touches that get overlooked but save alot of time.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

I'm going to assume you're kidding, because "turbo-enabling" sounds terrible

Well not literally that but yunno, something more positive as opposed to something that seems so worrisome.

Maybe they shoulda just stuck with "unlocking" and not try get crafty.

Software Unlocking?

 

[kramerica20]

Maybe if it wasn't called JAIL-BREAKING meaning an illegal-damaging thing...

It doesn't mean that at all. Do some reading. It's not illegal......nor damaging.

 

[dellAbait]

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Maybe if it wasn't called JAIL-BREAKING meaning an illegal-damaging thing...

It doesn't mean that at all. Do some reading. It's not illegal......nor damaging.

Hey Kramerica ...

As far as I can tell your entire enterprise is no more than a solitary man with a messy apartment which may or may not contain a chicken.

 

[kramerica20]

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Hey Kramerica ...

As far as I can tell your entire enterprise is no more than a solitary man with a messy apartment which may or may not contain a chicken.

“And with Darren’s help, we’ll get that chicken!”

 

[184550]

I choose reliability over eye candy.

This and the fact that I've never encountered anything that I wanted to do but couldn't do with my iPhone as it is.

 

[JASApplications]

An Un-Jailbroken iPhone is more than satisfactory for my needs

 

[dellAbait]

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Hey Kramerica ...

As far as I can tell your entire enterprise is no more than a solitary man with a messy apartment which may or may not contain a chicken.

“And with Darren’s help, we’ll get that chicken!”

Well played sir......Classic...

 

[Bobby Corwen]

It doesn't mean that at all. Do some reading. It's not illegal......nor damaging.

Well well well, if it isn't Captain partial logic himself...

Uuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Maybe I was saying that as an explanation for what other people think????

 

[jimbo1mcm]

Laughed Out Loud!!

I just checked the Hack forum and there was a post similar to this: " ...something just went horribly wrong". If you know what you are doing you can probably have fun with jailbreaking, but things keep changing so fast that you are going to screw up eventually. I don't have the mental energy to try and keep up. For those of you that do, enjoy.

 

[mcdj]

I'm all for jailbreaking. But I got tired of tweaking the phone for hours, using it for a couple of months, then having an update come out, forcing me to re-jailbreak and set up all the tweaks again. Too much effort.

 

[WilliamBos]

What is the point of jailbreaking?? Can you reverse it??



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[George Knighton]

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I jb for two main reasons

Lockinfo - saves me so much time on emails and messaging. It also enhances the push notification system tenfold.

How do you enhance push notifications? I don't mean to argue...I'm honestly curious what you mean.

It's either Exchange compliant, or it isn't, it seems to me. The only alternative that'll push 100% of the time, completely reliably, is MobileME, right?

Backgrounder - so i can actually multitask on the device!

The fact that these are not standard features is mind boggling.

Apple's problem with Backgrounder is that it allows the user to select almost any application to run fully in the background...which can destroy battery life for no good reason.

Activator and sbs settings are nice touches that get overlooked but save alot of time.

Okay. Maybe I miss SB Settings a little bit.

 

[George Knighton]

What is the point of jailbreaking?? Can you reverse it?

Yes, you can easily reverse it. If you want to try it and want to be sure you can go back easily, then just don't change your HOSTS file so that iTunes will still point to the Apple server instead of Jay's server.

That's the second biggest mistake that people make. Just don't change the HOSTS file if you're not absolutely sure you want to stay jailbroken.

The single biggest mistake that people make is going into it without reading the instructions fully, so that if you're using a technique that requires manipulation of the power button and home buttons, you don't have the technique quite straight in your mind before you try it.

 

[TC25]

I'm all for jailbreaking. But I got tired of tweaking the phone for hours, using it for a couple of months, then having an update come out, forcing me to re-jailbreak and set up all the tweaks again. Too much effort.

When you have a jailbroken phone, you actually have to read what the iOS upgrade offers or fixes, then decide if it's worth upgrading and re-jailbreaking. You also have to evaluate what jailbroken apps and customizations you've installed. Anyone who spends hours tweaking a phone after jailbreaking it, needs to understand this. I have about 10 apps I install after jailbreaking, e.g., biteSMS. From the time I sit down to upgrade iOS until the time I am finished is 1 hour.

What is the point of jailbreaking??

You might want to browse the Hacking forum and read many of the threads that discuss this very topic.

Can you reverse it??

Yes.

EDIT: Some of the apps I have installed and why. While these are nice, none of them are ones I couldn't live without if jailbreaking became impossible tomorrow. I at a loss to explain why some people have to denigrate people who jailbreak. If it works for you and is worth the effort, great. If not, that's great, too.

SBSettings - Gives direct access to many of the options in the default Settings application, eliminating the need to navigate the menus and submenus. Free
biteSMS - A much nicer messaging app with lots more features and capabilities. Ad supported or purchase.
WiFi Analyzer - An app that finds and reports details on WiFi APs. Free
iFile - A 'finder' like app for the iPhone.

 

[kramerica20]

Uuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Maybe I was saying that as an explanation for what other people think????

Nope, it's what you think. I haven't seen other people agreeing with this
and I don't blame them.

Maybe if it would have been called, TURBO-ENABLING it would be way more mainstream.

Yeah, I'm sure this will catch on.

Let's try it out: "I hope a "turbo-enable" is soon released for vzw 4.2.7."

 

[kramerica20]

How do you enhance push notifications? I don't mean to argue...I'm honestly curious what you mean.

It's either Exchange compliant, or it isn't, it seems to me. The only alternative that'll push 100% of the time, completely reliably, is MobileME, right?

Not sure about 'enhancing push', unless if he means that those notifications are enhanced by being displayed on the lockscreen etc.

Question about mobileme: I have business, non-exchange, imap email, + multiple gmail accounts. My business email does not 'push', but I don't want to send/receive "through" another email address, such as @me.com I would only consider if it would provide push business email, while being "invisible" to me. Doesn't appear that's how it works however?

 

[alflavor]

Last time I jailbroke my 3GS, 2 days later my phone bricked! Coincidence or not, I don't know, but it meant a 2 hours round trip to Apple Store to get Applecare.

So, I'm not jailbroken, and nor will I bother when I upgrade to the 5.