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I always buy at least two Apple devices when purchasing new. Their quality control is bad. Inevitably there is always some issue with the screens - be it dead pixels, dust, or whatever. Never occurred to me to purchase two phones, however.

Just purchased a 5S not too long ago and the first one had a dead pixel, the genius saw and agreed and exchanged it for another. The second one had a weird "pinch" effect along the top edge of the screen as well as clicked when the glass was pressed. Again the genius agreed and swappedd it for a third that had a perfect screen but also had two large nicks in the top chamfered edge. I kept it because the screen is what I cared for most, and who knows if the next phone I exchanged it for would have been okay.

I've had the same struggles with iPads. Until and unless Apple gets its quality control under control, I will continue doing what I do. Don't care what anyone else thinks.

But what if I think it's a great idea? care then :)
 
Just clicking through models. All carriers.

They are updating.

Yesterday the Verizon 16 GB Rose gold was sold out and the 64 GB wasn't.. Today the 16GB says 9/25 and the 64GB says 2-3 weeks.. Opposite of when I looked yesterday

I know the unlocked Tmobile only has 2 models of the 6s left for launch day.
 
I hate to admit but I do too... I had to order my silver 128GB 6s+ through ATT because I'm a premier customer with next and you can't order that way at Apple directly. I saw that the phone was scheduled to ship 10/16 even though I ordered it at 12:10am PST on the 12th. So I went to Apple and bought a T-Mobile unlocked one full price just like you that one is said to be here launch day.

I did this exact same thing, except I ordered at 12:03am PST :)
 
Because the difference between "building into the price" and "charging a premium for" is.............???

Again, you said

...maintaining their returns system is one of the reasons why they price things at the higher end of the market.

You can build a $5 premium into each phone to compensate for your return model. Doesn't explain your assessment that they charge their products at the higher end, aka $650 per phone, versus what you could consider the average, aka $500 per phone, based on their returns model.
 
Again, you said

...maintaining their returns system is one of the reasons why they price things at the higher end of the market.

You can build a $5 premium into each phone to compensate for your return model. Doesn't explain your assessment that they charge their products at the higher end, aka $650 per phone, versus what you could consider the average, aka $500 per phone, based on their returns model.

I'm pretty sure that I never said that their returns policy accounts for ALL of the price difference... Do you always just read what you want to read?
 
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