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Did you upgrade to Lion?

  • Yes, I love it!

    Votes: 178 54.8%
  • Yes, but I'm thinking about switching back.

    Votes: 17 5.2%
  • Yes, nothing special about it, but I won't switch back.

    Votes: 55 16.9%
  • Not yet, but I plan on it!

    Votes: 39 12.0%
  • No, and I don't plan on it.

    Votes: 17 5.2%
  • I did, but I decided to switch back.

    Votes: 19 5.8%

  • Total voters
    325
Good upgrade for £20.99, even less when buying iTunes cards online. Got a £25 one for £18 so makes the actual OS even cheaper. Getting used to MC instead of Spaces is tricky when I have a slight Desktop OCD. Once I'm able to rearrange things in MC to my liking I'll be 100% content.

Can't help thinking I should have done a clean install instead of an upgrade though. Oh well.
 
I wouldn't saying taking out all the productivity features with Exposé and Spaces is minor.

Apple is a company for the average consumer, and the average consumer didn't take advantage of the more advanced features that Exposé and Spaces had to offer. So I think with Mission Control, they dumbed it down so the average consumer would understand it better and be able to use it a bit more.

Well I'm pretty new to my iMac from my crappy old PC. I didn't bother waiting for Lion. I could barely wait for the iMac refresh. I already knew Expose and Spaces were changing, so I didn't bother using them much. And I'm no average consumer. I like to tweak things up a bit, make it look my own. I love Quicksilver. In all honesty I don't "need" Lion, but I might as well upgrade when my iMac is so new and it was designed with Lion in mind. I am highly interested in some new features. Especially the minor ones like resizing the windows from any edge instead of just one corner. That's probably the only thing I miss from Windows. Besides I don't expect a perfect OS when it's still a dot zero. But after all my years of 'dealing' with Windows constant issues and defrag and all that crap, I LOVE macs OS. I'm not going to wine and complain when everything is better, IMO, in mac world. I'm excited, nothing wrong with that. I swear, a bunch of complainers we have here.
 
Yes, nothing special about it, but I won't switch back.

I use it
I'm new to Mac. Been using Snow Leopard for a month and I loved it.
I switched to Lion and I like it just as much as Snow Leopard.
But it doesn't feel all that different. Maybe because it's all new to me anyways.
 
Yes, nothing special about it, but I won't switch back.

I use it
I'm new to Mac. Been using Snow Leopard for a month and I loved it.
I switched to Lion and I like it just as much as Snow Leopard.
But it doesn't feel all that different. Maybe because it's all new to me anyways.

Any bugs on your system? Mine has same specs as yours except I have the 27" screen. I got mine the day of the refresh. I had all these apps on here and just deleted most of them in anticipation. It also made for a smaller backup. Also did you just upgrade or do a clean install? I'm still contemplating. It seems it would be easier to just do the upgrade.
 
I downloaded only because I qualify for a free copy, will wait for it to be more mature before installing :) Love 10.6.8 so far, the best OSX I've used yet.
 
Furthermore, my 1 week old i5 2.3 pauses and takes a bit longer to do things, which it didn't before I upgraded. I'm planning to do a clean install of SL (since I'd restored a Time Machine backup when I bought this) and then hit the upgrade again... if, after that, the performance still lags, it's back to SL for me. Even my HP dv3 running Windows 7 I was using in between Macs ran faster.

Did the clean install and now it's running as I expect a Mac to. :)
 
Any bugs on your system? Mine has same specs as yours except I have the 27" screen. I got mine the day of the refresh. I had all these apps on here and just deleted most of them in anticipation. It also made for a smaller backup. Also did you just upgrade or do a clean install? I'm still contemplating. It seems it would be easier to just do the upgrade.

I only had to upgrade the dropbox app.
Didn't notice any bugs.

I did the upgrade. Since my system was only 1 month old, I didn't think there would be any trouble.
 
Believe it or not, I'm still using Leopard for work stuff on a PowerBook G4. It does everything I need (Adobe CS4, Office, Textmate etc.)

As for my Mac mini with Lion, I think I'm going back to Snow Leopard because the Lion GUI is way too slow. I'll keep Lion on an external hard drive, maybe they'll fix the graphics performance someday and I'll switch back.

Just so you know, if you are talking about buying a new MacMini. You have to use 10.7 on it, you will not be able to install SL on it. :/


Hugh
 
I only had to upgrade the dropbox app.
Didn't notice any bugs.

I did the upgrade. Since my system was only 1 month old, I didn't think there would be any trouble.

Good to know, my system is a little older but still pretty new. I'll go with just upgrading then. I have my system all backed up just in case anyway. Clean install seems better but maybe that is more needed for the older setups than mine. I never know without trying after all.
 
I'll upgrade when they return Spaces and Expose as they are in SL and they fix the Full Screen on multiple monitors bug.
 
Wow... despite the mockery that seen everywhere, 55% loves Lion. The stats company should just copy Macrumors and make a report out of it.

I love lion because of the full screen safari and mail and three finger swipe to switch between others which is fast and good animated. Love the 2 finger back and forward on safari as well.

Don't bother about launchpad, I use spotlight all the time since Leopard and don't bother for others and it's the best launcher so far.
 
Mission Control, IMO, is a giant fail.

I see Mission Control as taking a lot of the functionality out of Exposé and Spaces. You remember when your spaces were in a grid layout? Man I miss that. It allowed me to easily switch from any of my 6 spaces to any other extremely quickly using control-arrowkey. With Mission Control, it makes Spaces completely linear, taking away the ability to navigate to and from different spaces easily. I liked being able to navigate up, down, left, and right to get where I needed to go quickly. In that sense, Mission Control is a failure.

And before, I liked being able to use them independently, which made them much more powerful when used together! For example, I had Spaces set up for my top right corner and Exposé set up for my bottom right corner. So I could easily hit my Spaces corner to see all my spaces, and then while still in Spaces hit my Exposé corner to see all my windows in all my spaces. Now with Mission Control, you can only see all your windows in one space, which, in my opinion, is very limiting. Now if you want to see all your windows at once, you can't! You have to go into Mission Control and then go through each space to see your windows.

Also back in Snow Leopard, it was easy to move any window from one space to another thanks to the grid layout. When I hit my Spaces corner, I could easily drag my Chrome window from space 3 to space 6, or from 4 to 1, it didn't matter, I could move it wherever I wanted. But with Mission Control, you can only move windows in your current space to another space. So if you open Mission Control while on your first space, you can't move windows from your second space to your first one. You would have to move to your second space, move it to your first one, go back to your first one, and then you can start working with that window. Once again, very limiting in my opinion.

Another thing is moving spaces. You have ABSOLUTELY NO ability to rearrange your spaces in Lion. Back in Snow Leopard, you could move your whole space wherever you wanted, it didn't matter! And if you use a full screen application, it automatically moves it to the very last space! Well what if you want the full screen in your second space, some apps in your first space, and some other random apps in spaces 3 and 4? Well too dang bad, it won't let you!

Also comes problems with Mission Control and multiple monitors. In Mission Control, you can't move a window from one monitor to the other, you have to get out of Mission Control, drag it over, and then go back to Mission Control to do whatever you needed to do. And say you are on your first space and want to move a window to your second space to be on your other monitor. Well that won't work either!

Mission Control took out all the great productivity features from Exposé and Spaces that really helped people work faster. So, does anyone know if there is/will be a Mission Control replacement anytime soon? What I'm thinking is if there is any developer(s) working on fixing the current problems with mission control and maybe even bringing back Exposé and Spaces like they were in SL, you know, back when they worked well? Because if someone comes out with this and puts it on the App Store, I would gladly pay for something like this.
 
Why would I want to turn my Macbook into an iPad with a keyboard?

It's so much more than that. Launchpad is such a small, avoidable feature of Lion. I wouldn't even tout it as being a 'major' feature. It's the subtle things Apple has done well with this update. While there are a few kinks, there are no more than I remember when Leopard was released. 10.7 is worth $30 (£21) and since my productivity has only increased (not decreased as feared) with Lion, I'm not sad to wave goodbye to Snow Leopard (though I retain a soft spot in my heart for Rosetta).
 
It's so much more than that. Launchpad is such a small, avoidable feature of Lion. I wouldn't even tout it as being a 'major' feature. It's the subtle things Apple has done well with this update. While there are a few kinks, there are no more than I remember when Leopard was released. 10.7 is worth $30 (£21) and since my productivity has only increased (not decreased as feared) with Lion, I'm not sad to wave goodbye to Snow Leopard (though I retain a soft spot in my heart for Rosetta).

I find it hard to see what Apple has done well with Lion. Mission Control is an epic fail. Launchpad is a joke, and nobody who needs to quickly open an app will use it. Resume is iPad backgrounding on Mac, which is also kind of stupid. What happens if I have 10 TextEdit documents open and then quit the application to close them all. When I reopen TextEdit, I don't want all 10 of those documents coming back up, it's just annoying. Resume is really only useful for certain apps. But for me, I like starting my apps with a clean slate.

Autosave is alright, but it took away the "Save as" feature which is a major slow down. Airdrop is ridiculous because they have had it for years, now it just has a name other than file sharing. The gestures are pointless for desktops. The only way to use them is if you go out and spend more of your money at the Apple store for a $70 trackpad. Full screen apps are meant for laptops in my opinion. Maximizing a window with a desktop was a great size and let you see the menu bar and dock at all times, which I like since i have a lot of stuff in my menu bar.

It's an OS for the average consumer with a laptop. There's really no added features for the more advanced users with desktops.
 
Switched yesterday. So far I'd have to just say "Meh." Since I use Quicksilver to launch apps Launchpad is useless for me. I basically never use Spaces or Expose so Mission Control is also useless. I don't use a trackpad on my Mac Pro so the inverted scrolling is just retarded when using a mouse.

About the only thing I do like is the full screen apps, but so far I have one: iTunes. Oh that's right, I did forget about Apple finally catching up to Windows in a couple regards which is finally awesome. Resizing windows from any corner is great to finally be able to do. As is merging folders instead of just overwriting. Way to go Steve. You really brought some innovation to OS X with those ones.

I could see Lion being more of an upgrade for some, but for me it's really not. I won't go back to Snow Leopard because there really isn't a point, but this barely feels like an upgrade to be honest.
 
I find it hard to see what Apple has done well with Lion. Mission Control is an epic fail. Launchpad is a joke, and nobody who needs to quickly open an app will use it. Resume is iPad backgrounding on Mac, which is also kind of stupid. What happens if I have 10 TextEdit documents open and then quit the application to close them all. When I reopen TextEdit, I don't want all 10 of those documents coming back up, it's just annoying. Resume is really only useful for certain apps. But for me, I like starting my apps with a clean slate.

Autosave is alright, but it took away the "Save as" feature which is a major slow down. Airdrop is ridiculous because they have had it for years, now it just has a name other than file sharing. The gestures are pointless for desktops. The only way to use them is if you go out and spend more of your money at the Apple store for a $70 trackpad. Full screen apps are meant for laptops in my opinion. Maximizing a window with a desktop was a great size and let you see the menu bar and dock at all times, which I like since i have a lot of stuff in my menu bar.

It's an OS for the average consumer with a laptop. There's really no added features for the more advanced users with desktops.

RIGHT ON THE MONEY! And in time when those blinded by everything Apple do get their vision back, they will reflect that Lion is a real shocker of an OS. £20 for an OS where you have to tweak and remove features to make it work -is this advancement?
 
beach balls, blocky scrolling, best gestures gone, childish non-usable interface, wifi connections dropping, mission control and launchpad completely pointless

welcome to Lion

I rarely get beach balls (certainly no more than when using SL), the scrolling is smooth but does use a bit more CPU, the only gesture I'm lacking is 2 finger swipe in firefox/iTunes which I can live with, my wifi has been permanently connected since I installed on Friday, Mission Control works quite well (albeit I want to swap my desktops around) and LaunchPad is completely pointless so I don't use it but I can see why it might work on an 11" MacBook Air....

Welcome to Lion, it's good.
 
I switched, new features are great. I love Resume, Auto-save, Versions, Touch-integration, heck I even love the new wallpapers ;)

And they solved almost every little thing that did annoy me. Quick Look in stacks, dragging files to stacks and making them a small icon, better mail, preview in Spotlight, cut-paste, Quick Look changes size when file size differs etc etc.
 
I switched back to SL. The interface and gesture changes would have been something that I could have handled.

But I had two quite severe issues:
- Every second reboot the system freezes completely after the desktop was loaded. The only thing working was moving the pointer with the mouse. No reactions to clicking, trackpad completely unresponsive, keyboard not working. Only possible solution: powering completely down and retry.
- Whenever the CPU load went below something like 15%, I was getting a constant chirping/buzzing noise from the CPU board (2010 Mac Pro 3.2GHz quad). This had never happened in SL or Windows. From an acoustic perspective this was very annyoing and additionally I feared that something could break and I don't want to send my Mac Pro in for repair.
 
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There were only 2 things that actually made a difference, everything else is useless candy. One of them is a little faster boot times. But I have an SSD so even on SL I still get fast boot times. The other is Mail. I really liked the new Mail app. When I switched back to Snow Leopard, that was the main thing I missed, until I got Sparrow. Best mail client out there. And still better than Lion's Mail.

Sorry Roel, but everything you mentioned is useless candy and aren't big features.

Maybe I'll go back to Lion when it is required for iCloud.
 
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