Who's using the RMBP for graphic design and web dev full time?

[stevelam]

What makes a MBPR a "pro" machine?

You still haven't answered that question.

are you seriously this dense all of the time? i am asking *pro's* about their usage of the RMBP. if i need to find out what its like to just watch movies 24/7 or surf the internet using non-retinized firefox on the RMBP or something, i'll ask you.

 

[jcpb]

are you seriously this dense all of the time? i am asking *pro's* about their usage of the RMBP. if i need to find out what its like to just watch movies 24/7 or surf the internet using non-retinized firefox on the RMBP or something, i'll ask you.

People use MBAs for pro work.

People even use ultralights for pro work, unlikely as it may be.

I'm not dense enough to tell someone "why are you spending over $3000 for something that you can't do with something that costs half as much" and "you do NOT need 16GB RAM" i.e. your posts.

 

[voronoi]

Does working at an architecture firm count? The retina displays are a boon to simulating printed line thicknesses. Saves us a ton of trouble from constantly test printing large construction documents with fine details. Think 30" x 42" sheets.

 

[stevelam]

People use MBAs for pro work.

People even use ultralights for pro work, unlikely as it may be.

I'm not dense enough to tell someone "why are you spending over $3000 for something that you can't do with something that costs half as much" and "you do NOT need 16GB RAM" i.e. your posts.

do you see me asking about the MBA in this thread? what does that have to do with anything at all?

oh so you use your RMBP for absolutely nothing at all except posting nonsense on macrumors? good for you buddy. glad you're putting those 16gb's of ram to work.

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Does working at an architecture firm count? The retina displays are a boon to simulating printed line thicknesses. Saves us a ton of trouble from constantly test printing large construction documents with fine details. Think 30" x 42" sheets.

curious, i'm not into architecture but i assume autocad/sketchup/etc etc is *generally* used for some of the work. neither have been updated for retina display. what software are you currently using?

 

[jcpb]

do you see me asking about the MBA in this thread? what does that have to do with anything at all?

MBAs with pro apps = pro machine.

Nothing about the MBPR screams "pro". What you do with it matters. It's a computer, not a status symbol, stop pretending that it is just because it's more expensive than a classic MBP.

Surprised you still don't get it.

 

[voronoi]

I'm running on an unscaled resolution. It doesn't bother me since I'm one of the youngest people in the office and my eyesight is still sufficient for the display.

We've moved from AutoCAD to Revit now. It's more demanding on the graphics card, hence why we get Macbook Pros instead of Airs. We also use Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop quite often for competitions and producing images to show clients renderings of their future buildings.

 

[Slivortal]

MBAs with pro apps = pro machine.

Nothing about the MBPR screams "pro". What you do with it matters. It's a computer, not a status symbol, stop pretending that it is just because it's more expensive than a classic MBP.

Surprised you still don't get it.

This. 10,000 times over (well, the second part anyway). I'm sick of people referring to devices or even themselves as "pro". A professional is a person who's talent is recognized by their peers. Not a device, and not a self-designated title (not necessarily accusing OP, just wanted to bring it up).

The "P" in MBP is just part of a marketing ploy by Apple. Saying you need to be "worthy" of it is simply you being gullible (again, not necessarily blaming OP).

 

[stevelam]

MBAs with pro apps = pro machine.

Nothing about the MBPR screams "pro". What you do with it matters. It's a computenot a status symbol, stop pretending that it is just because it's more expensive than a classic MBP.

Surprised you still don't get it.

Unbelievable.

Once again I am asking RMBP owners who specifically do the work I'm asking about. Why? Because I have one on order.

What does this have to do with the MBA at all? I don't have one so I didn't ask about it.

The fact I actually had to type this explanation out makes me feel really embarrassed for you.

When you reach this line, start over and read this post again. Hopefully that will help!

 

[voronoi]

I don't think the OP was saying you had to be a professional to use a "Pro" computer. I read the topic more as him asking professionals what they use their Macbook Pros for and didn't want unsolicited responses from those who do not use their Macbook Pros in a production environment.

There is a big difference between the way students/enthusiasts work and the way "professionals" work.

 

[dualcyclone]

I am a freelance software engineer; I work predominantly in Web Development.

I did have a 2009 Macbook Pro 15", which has served me well, but vanity meant I had to get this one.

I haven't done much work on it yet, but I have to say so far, its fast (startup and shutdown speeds are good, I'd have to wait for the last one).

All I can say is that until the major software companies catch up and produce retina icons and graphics, you'll have to put up with pixelation. So far I have not found a way of just loading an application in its native resolution.

Chrome is at least up to date with Retina now, haven't bothered with the other browsers yet, although I am sure I'll have to at some point.

I guess the major sticking point in the lack of cases designed for this machine yet, I have just ordered a Booq Mamba 15" sleeve, but I'm guessing it will be a week or so until I actually see it.

 

[ohbrilliance]

To the OP, this is a public forum, and people are free to comment however they like. Dictating how people should reply is futile and obnoxious.

 

[stevelam]

I am a freelance software engineer; I work predominantly in Web Development.

I did have a 2009 Macbook Pro 15", which has served me well, but vanity meant I had to get this one.

I haven't done much work on it yet, but I have to say so far, its fast (startup and shutdown speeds are good, I'd have to wait for the last one).

All I can say is that until the major software companies catch up and produce retina icons and graphics, you'll have to put up with pixelation. So far I have not found a way of just loading an application in its native resolution.

Chrome is at least up to date with Retina now, haven't bothered with the other browsers yet, although I am sure I'll have to at some point.

I guess the major sticking point in the lack of cases designed for this machine yet, I have just ordered a Booq Mamba 15" sleeve, but I'm guessing it will be a week or so until I actually see it.

What code editors are you using for web dev? Afaik coda is the only retina friendly one so far. I think sublime text may be as well. I think eclipse and all the other java powered IDEs are partly retina friendly.

 

[/dev/toaster]

interesting. thanks! the main worry that i'm seeing from your post is the fact that even on an external monitor, photoshop gets screwy?

Only seems to happen when I resize the Photoshop application window.

 

[sireShonBohn]

MBAs with pro apps = pro machine.

Nothing about the MBPR screams "pro". What you do with it matters. It's a computer, not a status symbol, stop pretending that it is just because it's more expensive than a classic MBP.

Surprised you still don't get it.

You know the old adage about any car getting you from point A to point B? Well so does the bus and by comparison, the computer at the local library. By the logic displayed here we should all just man up and go get library cards because we've wasted our time and money thinking pro's should have their own computers.

Why stop there anyway? Why is the computer the point of contention? How about the corner office? Forget it, a cubicle is good enough. Actually, forget cubicle, just have all your workers sit in a cafeteria filled with folding tables and chairs. Who says pros should have comfortable chairs or offices with windows or even a remote sense of personal space? Huh? Who said that? NO ONE, it's a just a ploy. They don't need AC either, just put some of those big industrial fans you see in gymnasiums at each end of the cafeteria. Heck, why does it need to be an enclosed building, an old airplane hanger at an abandoned air force base should be more than sufficient, plus the smell of jet fuel will numb their suffering. In the end you'll realize it was pointless to even have employees, just let monkeys scribble nonsense on giant sheets of paper and send that to your clients no matter what they ask for. It's all a ploy anyway.

 

[sofianito]

Unbelievable.

Once again I am asking RMBP owners who specifically do the work I'm asking about. Why? Because I have one on order.

What does this have to do with the MBA at all? I don't have one so I didn't ask about it.

The fact I actually had to type this explanation out makes me feel really embarrassed for you.

When you reach this line, start over and read this post again. Hopefully that will help!

By the way, how you dare posting a sarcastic message in my thread claiming you own a rMBP??? You are definitely a SMARTASS!.

Queue in the usual responses and to save everyone from typing the same thing just pick a letter:

A) its running lion so of course there's lag. ML fixes everything!
B) retail store displays have software that slow it down
C) my RMBP is just perfect with no lag whatsoever so stop trolling!

 

[voronoi]

By the way, how you dare posting a sarcastic message in my thread claiming you own a rMBP??? You are definitely a SMARTASS!.

I'm confused, where does he say he owns a rMBP? It looks like he's only providing prewritten responses with one letter aliases.

 

[wiseoak1]

Hey there!

In short: I design + develop for the web. I'm using a Macbook Pro Retina now for a week.
Still unsure wether to keep it. The performance is great. Starts up and restarts really fast, a big upgrade compared to my old Macbook Pro 17inch (2009).

While not every app is retina ready yet, the text on retina screens is really pleasant to look at. In the week I'm using the Retina macbook with 27" Thunderbolt Display which is a pleasure to use. A lot of workspace. In the weekend when I'm not home, I use my Retina Macbook to continue some projects: coding + designing. It's not 100% but it works fine.

From time to time I come across weird glitches.
- Vimeo player fullscreen takes up 1/4 of my screen -> bummer
- Flash websites look bad, just like any website with low-res images. (yes, I clearly understand why). Text on the otherhand is a joy to look at. Really sharp & smooth.

So if you can wait for some apps to catch up the Retina screen + you work with an external screen most of your time, it's a joy to use. I wouldn't recommend working on it full time without any external screen. If you choose higher resolutions, everything looks a little more blurry and lowers the performance.

Setup:
http://cl.ly/3U1o1C043Y0N3k1M2z2i

 

[stevelam]

Hey there!

In short: I design + develop for the web. I'm using a Macbook Pro Retina now for a week.
Still unsure wether to keep it. The performance is great. Starts up and restarts really fast, a big upgrade compared to my old Macbook Pro 17inch (2009).

While not every app is retina ready yet, the text on retina screens is really pleasant to look at. In the week I'm using the Retina macbook with 27" Thunderbolt Display which is a pleasure to use. A lot of workspace. In the weekend when I'm not home, I use my Retina Macbook to continue some projects: coding + designing. It's not 100% but it works fine.

From time to time I come across weird glitches.
- Vimeo player fullscreen takes up 1/4 of my screen -> bummer
- Flash websites look bad, just like any website with low-res images. (yes, I clearly understand why). Text on the otherhand is a joy to look at. Really sharp & smooth.

So if you can wait for some apps to catch up the Retina screen + you work with an external screen most of your time, it's a joy to use. I wouldn't recommend working on it full time without any external screen. If you choose higher resolutions, everything looks a little more blurry and lowers the performance.

Setup:
http://cl.ly/3U1o1C043Y0N3k1M2z2i

Thanks!

Curious when you're talking about vimeo and flash rendering issues, does this happen in safari or only non-retinized browsers or both?

And have you encountered the issue of photoshop acting funny when resizing windows (even on external monitor)?

 

[stevelam]

By the way, how you dare posting a sarcastic message in my thread claiming you own a rMBP??? You are definitely a SMARTASS!.

Seriously? I'm just gonna assume English is your 2nd language and just leave you be. I have no idea how else you could misunderstand that.

 

[Eric8199]

One more thing about the rMBP that makes it easier to deal with the pixelation. The speed. I can launch Photoshop CS5 in about two seconds. On my 2010 iMac at work, it takes about a minute to launch QuarkXpress. On my rMBP, about five to 10 seconds.

And at the risk of feeding the trolls, what makes the MacBook Pro a pro machine? Um, doesn't the name itself kind of lead you to believe its a pro machine?

Sure, you don't have to be a pro to use the MBP, but if you're a pro, you're probably going to want to. And it will suit your needs.

Being a pro in the Design business, we use iMacs. We even have old G5 iMacs that we're still using. So you don't need a MBP to do pro work, but I'll tell you, the MBPs we have perform a heck of a lot better.

 

[Abhorred]

By the way, how you dare posting a sarcastic message in my thread claiming you own a rMBP??? You are definitely a SMARTASS!.

He wasn't saying he owns an rMBP in your thread, he was just posting a list of the three most common response types people give when lag issues are discussed regarding the rMBP. His intent was to circumvent people from posting the same responses over and over, not to be a smartass.

Try to relax; it's just the internet.

 

[gentlefury]

MBAs with pro apps = pro machine.

Nothing about the MBPR screams "pro". What you do with it matters. It's a computer, not a status symbol, stop pretending that it is just because it's more expensive than a classic MBP.

Surprised you still don't get it.

It benchmarks faster than my Mac pro. That sounds pretty "pro" to me! I will be using mine full time.

 

[G-Mo]

Preface: I worked in web development and design for over a decade, owning a small development company for the final 6 years. I sold the company last year and "retired" from full time development. I acquired my ACMT/ACSP certifications and am currently assistant service manager and technician for an AAR/AASP in Ontario.

At work we supply and service all but one of the newspaper groups, a large number of design shops ranging from large to boutique and various marketing companies, film editors and photography studios. Overwhelmingly, except for the independent film editors, the prefered in-office choice is either iMac 27-inches or Mac Pros (usually with dual monitors). I know a very well respected design studio in Liberty Village that has 27x27". Most have something portable for presentations and principals/managers usually have both.

On to the MacBook Pro Retina. For "pros", we've taken orders for 6 so far and delivered 5. We've had 2 returned. The general concensus, even amungst those who've kept them, tends to be that the performance to display to dollar value is not there.

 

[sofianito]

Seriously? I'm just gonna assume English is your 2nd language and just leave you be. I have no idea how else you could misunderstand that.

I was indeed sleepy, and I recognize that insinuating is a better word than claming. Anyway, wait until to get your rMBP before preaching its values and polluting others' threads with sarcasms when they don't share your opinions...

And yes, English in not my mother tongue. I am fluent in 4 languages, though. Also, if it matters, I can make the difference between a smart/wise ass and a humble knowledgeable person.

Poll: Could MR change the 'I like button' with the 'karma' button? Man, you need to improve your karma...

 

[stevelam]

Preface: I worked in web development and design for over a decade, owning a small development company for the final 6 years. I sold the company last year and "retired" from full time development. I acquired my ACMT/ACSP certifications and am currently assistant service manager and technician for an AAR/AASP in Ontario.

At work we supply and service all but one of the newspaper groups, a large number of design shops ranging from large to boutique and various marketing companies, film editors and photography studios. Overwhelmingly, except for the independent film editors, the prefered in-office choice is either iMac 27-inches or Mac Pros (usually with dual monitors). I know a very well respected design studio in Liberty Village that has 27x27". Most have something portable for presentations and principals/managers usually have both.

On to the MacBook Pro Retina. For "pros", we've taken orders for 6 so far and delivered 5. We've had 2 returned. The general concensus, even amungst those who've kept them, tends to be that the performance to display to dollar value is not there.

Thanks. Regarding your last point, any general idea of what was lacking in the RMBP that made it not worth the money?

I work at an agency in the entertainment district but we're mostly an ad agency and not purely a design/dev one. Everyone here uses MacBooks connected to external monitors. The 27" iMacs here are only generally used for video/audio work in specific rooms.