Who's waiting for Haswell?

[surjavarman]

Haswell will be a "Tock" in Intel's development cycle meaning a whole new architecture for the CPU on 22 nm while the integrated graphics should get a major boost. Right now Ivy Bridge iGPU has 16 EU's (execution units). Haswell is rumored to contain at up to 40 EU's, without even considering efficiency changes to each individual EU.

Well if its just an improved CPU and GPU performance then I'll stick with this generation of the RMBP. I mean if you keep waiting for the next best thing then you could be waiting for an infinite time.

The advantages are not enough for me to cancel my order.

 

[PeopleTheseDays]

Well if its just an improved CPU and GPU performance then I'll stick with this generation of the RMBP. I mean if you keep waiting for the next best thing then you could be waiting for an infinite time.

The advantages are not enough for me to cancel my order.

No doubt, if you need a computer now, just buy it. I've always been one to encourage that.

This may be semantics, or maybe I'm miss judging your meaning, but I would not make the metaphor of "continually waiting for the next best thing" to waiting for an infinite amount of time.

There may be people that actually do take that to heart and literally keep waiting, but I think for others, when they say "I'm going to wait for Haswell" or something, it's not necessarily right to criticize for that. There are times when there is a great advancement forward, which is what people are waiting for.

For example, moving from Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge, that is the same CPU and GPU improvement because it's the same architecture. However the move from Nehalem to Sandy Bridge or Sandy Bridge to Haswell is a generational increase.

Also, I simplified it greatly by only mentioning that there are CPU and GPU improvements. Sandy Bridge brought the iGPU on-die with the CPU.

In the GPU side, this year comes with a massive generational leap in performance because the Nvidia/AMD were stuck at 40 nm for the last two generations, and just this year moved to 28 nm along with a completely new architecture for both companies.

TL;DR - I agree with your thought process, but I think it's way simple to make the assumption that "if you wait for the next thing, why not wait for the one after that". There are times when the change is a massive leap from the minor improvements before it.

 

[ooans]

I wonder if a new version of Thunderbolt will come with Haswell. I know the current one hasn't even picked up yet, but I personally would be interested in using an external graphics card with a laptop. As far as I've been told the current thunderbolt speed is not really fast enough for this.

 

[rdowns]

Is anyone waiting for Haswell next year? If you are why are you?

I'm waiting for better screen resolution and legacy ports to reappear.

 

[Boe11]

A wonderful rant oh short-sighted one. I printed it on #10 paper and will be taking it to the crapper tomorrow morning promptly at 6:23 AM (Yeah, I'm that regular).

What you fail to understand and evidently missed is the "current offerings" which you tout as an alternative and the de-facto solution to us so-called "whiners" won't be there one day very soon. All MacBooks will be non-upgradeable.

Further evidence of your short-sightedness. Again, I say "duh".

Did we just become best friends?!

 

[Martialis]

Along these lines, is there going to be some sort of refresh? If I remember right, aren't there usually early/late models each year? I need a new laptop, but I'm perfectly fine waiting a few more months if say, prices will drop or Apple starts using slightly better components or fabrication or whatever.

 

[Mr MM]

Along these lines, is there going to be some sort of refresh? If I remember right, aren't there usually early/late models each year? I need a new laptop, but I'm perfectly fine waiting a few more months if say, prices will drop or Apple starts using slightly better components or fabrication or whatever.

we dont know when the refresh will happen, but it usually only comes with a minor spec bump in the cpu, due to intel getting higher bins as the production goes on.

haswell only should appear in 1 year time

 

[jcpb]

Intel's tick-tock cadence is such that there is a remote chance (read: it's happened before) a new tick/tock doesn't show up in 12 months. Ivy Bridge had delays. I personally wouldn't be surprised at all if Haswell gets delayed by several weeks as well.

That said, there's always going to be a refresh, there's always going to be updates to the Mac lineup... there's always going to be people waiting for new things in the future because they are utterly dissatisfied with the latest updates.

And then there are people who never buy anything now because they keep hoping for the better stuff to show up tomorrow.

 

[Mr MM]

Intel's tick-tock cadence is such that there is a remote chance (read: it's happened before) a new tick/tock doesn't show up in 12 months. Ivy Bridge had delays. I personally wouldn't be surprised at all if Haswell gets delayed by several weeks as well.

That said, there's always going to be a refresh, there's always going to be updates to the Mac lineup... there's always going to be people waiting for new things in the future because they are utterly dissatisfied with the latest updates.

And then there are people who never buy anything now because they keep hoping for the better stuff to show up tomorrow.

haswell is already scheduled for Q2-Q3 release. if its going to be delayed even more its unknown at this point

 

[nuckinfutz]

I'm expecting an 8-core Macbook Air with a 1TB SSD running on the PCIe buss next year.

 

[thleeal]

I'm expecting an 8-core Macbook Air with a 1TB SSD running on the PCIe buss next year.

Don't forget the indepndent graphics card that will be desktop class.. the retina + screen..... oh and and the BRAND NEW FEATURE that will make it a big seller in cold placed..

It will double as a room heater.