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Why All this Hate for "Rock"?
- Thread starter klamse25
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I too can confirm that they don't care much about you after the sale.
I bought a MyWi license last week and after one day, restored my phone. Went to install MyWi again and this time I could not login to activate my license.
I tried the password recovery page and it simply does not work. I tried emailing the owner and he never responds. It's been well over a week and no reply at all. I ended up buying MyWi again.
There are lots of other stories like this on these forums. I just remembered, I payed through PayPal so I can do a dispute.
This certainly does not "make piracy okay". If you want to use the cracked version of MiWi to avoid installing Rock, that's fine. Just make sure you already paid for it. Go to rockyourphone.com from your computer and buy a license. The rock app never even needs to touch your phone just make sure you support the developer.
It's fine to support the developer but the developer of MyWi fails to support numerous people when they are having problems such as logging in to even activate their license.
I don't care where people get their copy of MyWi anymore. There is no support lately for any app in Rock.
You have absolutely no idea what your talking about.
Let's see....did Cydia ever have a bug that bricked the iPhone requiring a restore? Nope.
Do all third party extensions work correctly with Rock app? Nope...rock extensions has numerous compatibility issues.
Oh yeah, and these were problems caused months after initial release, and even now.
iphonedude123 - 2, MikePA - 0.
Owned.
That's beside the point. Cydia installs (and uninstalls) LockInfo (and many other apps) just fine, while Rock does not. A big part of the problem is that you almost never know what it's going to have a problem with until it's too late.
It's ok. He has no idea what he's talking about. He can't respond to your argument so he deflects it so something entirely irrelevant.
No, I don't believe that's what was meant. What it's saying is he believes the people who disliked it from the start still do because it was really bad when it was first released. That's probably true to a point. Maybe some had a really bad first impression and the experience was ruined.
However, I never installed Rock on any iPhone I've owned and I don't like it. My dislike is based on the stories I hear from others. The amount of trouble I've read about regarding phones with Rock installed compared to just Cydia is enough for me to stay away.
I like Cydia and I'm grateful a person like Saurik cares enough to do what he does.
The developer or Mywi and My3G is the same one that owns Rock and that wont support his customers with any issues or problems.
Yes,we should all support people like that....
Owned by someone who doesn't know what 'bricked' means? Hardly. When does school start? Good luck in junior high.
Hey Mr. Bricked. It wasn't me who first mentioned LockInfo. My sympathies on your reading comprehension problem.
The Rock haters just can't stand it when other people post they have not had any issues.
What you don't realize is it's the same people whining about Rock over and over again. Their entire purpose for living is to complain about Rock. They fail to realize they've screwed their phone up so much before installing Rock, then blame Rock for a problem they caused.
the point i'm trying to make is that you should never be forced to install something just to use something else
in my world, things that force install or prevent their deletion have names
...viruses, malware
in my world, things that force install or prevent their deletion have names
...viruses, malware
why would anyone else care whether or not you're having issues?
....and why are you soo defensive over an app? lol
its one thing to voice how mad you are when an app pisses you off
but i've never seen anyone come to a programs defense in such a fashion lol
Why would anyone care if you had issues with Rock? What a moronic statement. lol
I'm not being defensive. lol
I am simply countering all the whining. lol
Why does a thread about Rock always bring out the whiners and haters. lol
To the OP - There isn't 'All this hate for Rock'. It's simply the 'know it alls' who think hating gives their lives meaning. lol
Oh, yeah, there are smilies on this board. No need to pretend I'm texting.
I'll leave this thread to the haters so the OP will learn from them.
I have used both Cydia and Rock on all my iPhones 2, 3, 3G, and 4 since the beginning of each of their creations and have to say they both have issues or quirks sometimes but I have never had any crashes or major issues with either. And as far as applications installing software/code you didn't ask for they both do, have you ever installed Cydia then look at packages and notice all the packages added same with Rock.
Why all the hate? If you don't want a Ham sandwich don't order one....seems kinda simple to me, just because I had a bad experience with the ham sandwich doesn't mean every time I go to a deli I sit and complain about the ham!
JUST BE LUCKY YOU HAVE A CHOICE AND OPTIONS....
Peace......
Why all the hate? If you don't want a Ham sandwich don't order one....seems kinda simple to me, just because I had a bad experience with the ham sandwich doesn't mean every time I go to a deli I sit and complain about the ham!
JUST BE LUCKY YOU HAVE A CHOICE AND OPTIONS....
Peace......
Most people who hate rock do so because the majority does. I do hate Rock, but I know why:
1) Rock is actually "IntelliBorne" (makers of IntelliScreen), and like InteliScreen, Rock installs crap everywhere in your system, and doesn't remove them all after uninstalling (like alot of Windows software).
2) Rock's sole purpose is making money, while saurik's projects are a hobby and he genuinely loves iPhone hacking. Not that that's a bad thing, but it makes Cydia more trustworthy. For example, Rock blocked people from installing the free 3G unrestrictor, and directed users to their own paid "My3G"
3) Rock (Intelliborne)'s apps don't play well with other developers. Aka, they don't use libraries and tools that most other devs use and force you to install their own closed-source alternatives. (MobileSubstrate for their Rock Extensions, and not using many libraries written by other developers that I can't name off the bat)
1) Rock is actually "IntelliBorne" (makers of IntelliScreen), and like InteliScreen, Rock installs crap everywhere in your system, and doesn't remove them all after uninstalling (like alot of Windows software).
2) Rock's sole purpose is making money, while saurik's projects are a hobby and he genuinely loves iPhone hacking. Not that that's a bad thing, but it makes Cydia more trustworthy. For example, Rock blocked people from installing the free 3G unrestrictor, and directed users to their own paid "My3G"
3) Rock (Intelliborne)'s apps don't play well with other developers. Aka, they don't use libraries and tools that most other devs use and force you to install their own closed-source alternatives. (MobileSubstrate for their Rock Extensions, and not using many libraries written by other developers that I can't name off the bat)
Read bolded part.
Can't offer a refutal? Of course you can't. Deflection + ad-hominem at it's finest. Quite the coward, are we?
In two pages you have been unable to explain why:
A. Rock's releases continue to cause bugs including the 'bricking' just months ago.
B. Rock extensions continue to cause incompatibility issues because it has absolutely no need to exist when mobile substrate can easily work with it.
PS - This is far after initial release.
I say again, you have absolutely no idea what your talking about.
iphonedude123 - 5
MikePA - 0
Owned. Keep digging your grave.
i guess rock is alright if you ONLY use rock for EVERYTHING. which atm is impossible. Cydia is essential to the jailbreaking scene and will remain to do so as long as Rock employ their unethical business tactics.
Rock customers that are still support the company and still praise it simple have no ran into a conflict yet. one of these will eventually happen:
-conflict with other jb apps
-problem uninstall stuff
-problem after uninstall stuff
-problem install stuff
-problem after installing stuff
-failure in receiving technical support
-either one of the above causing user to require a restore
-than failure to get license working again after the restore
see what I'm getting at, there is so many things that could go wrong and will go wrong eventually unless your the type to just install stuff and never update or never install another app ever again.
fyi, there are rock "haters" who were previously rock customers and all of them can attribute their "hatred" to one of the above item.
their business tactic or driving off their competitors or make their app so incompatible it will often cause major problem is akin to Mcdonalds trying to drive out its competitor Burger King by adding ingredients to their burger that if a Mcdonalds customer had eaten a BK burger before eating the Mcdonald burger, their stomach would collapse causing explosive diarrhea.
not life threatening but certainly not the right way to treat your customer nor the right way to compete with your competitors.
Rock customers that are still support the company and still praise it simple have no ran into a conflict yet. one of these will eventually happen:
-conflict with other jb apps
-problem uninstall stuff
-problem after uninstall stuff
-problem install stuff
-problem after installing stuff
-failure in receiving technical support
-either one of the above causing user to require a restore
-than failure to get license working again after the restore
see what I'm getting at, there is so many things that could go wrong and will go wrong eventually unless your the type to just install stuff and never update or never install another app ever again.
fyi, there are rock "haters" who were previously rock customers and all of them can attribute their "hatred" to one of the above item.
their business tactic or driving off their competitors or make their app so incompatible it will often cause major problem is akin to Mcdonalds trying to drive out its competitor Burger King by adding ingredients to their burger that if a Mcdonalds customer had eaten a BK burger before eating the Mcdonald burger, their stomach would collapse causing explosive diarrhea.
not life threatening but certainly not the right way to treat your customer nor the right way to compete with your competitors.
All this bickering makes me long for the days when Installer was the only, well, installer out there.