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I hate Apple's bezels with a fervent passion.

I don't get the bezel hate. It's like you read an article on any tablet, and sooner or later, someone will bring up how the bezel is stupid and should be smaller.

"I saw a picture of the new iPad the other day, and it still has that ABSOLUTELY USELESS BEZEL! I hate how Apple put a space around the screen that I can grip without directly touching the screen because that's totally stupid and the screen could be bigger without it or something and OH GOD IT JUST MAKES ME SOOOOO MAAAADDD".
 
Between that iPad mock up and the Nexus 7, I'll take the Nexus 7 shape ANYDAY! That mock up is far too fat to be useful as a smaller tablet, you may as well not bother and just get the normal iPad.

The rumor has been consistently linking the smaller iPad using the in-cell technology to reduce the bezel, which makes a lot of sense since it'll mostly solve the width problem.
 
I am ready for my multi-touch TABLETOP COMPUTER!!

BRING IT APPLE.

(and yes, it's amazing how nobody has really done this yet, when the technology is fully there...yet Apple makes these tiny devices like the iPhone and iPad -- a full-size multitouch computing environment of a desktop scale would be a revolutionary product that could birth a new generation of computing as we know it.)
 
It makes you wonder. A great deal of the 7" tablet appeal was for an extremely small, light, and portable e-reader. Will making the iPad Mini 40% larger than these 7" tablets actually take away from this appeal?

This, totally agree, when you look at the Fire and Nexus 7, they are great for holding one handed, that mock up would never allow you to comfortably do that.

Similar comments were made about the iPad before it launched. Most people thought it would cost 1000$ or more. And a lot of people still expected it to fail even at 500$ once it launched.

I'm sure their were, but $150 for an Apple iPad? Don't think so, unless Apple wishes to damage sales for ALL it's iPod's?

Just look here:

http://store.apple.com/us

iPod Touch from $199
iPod Nano from $129
iPod Classic from $249

So what do you think would happen to the sales of those devices if Apple launched a $150 or $200 or even $250 iPad? Apple is many things, but it isn't stupid.
 
To me, Gruber misses the point completely. That the iPad mini is not a 7" tablet is a negative. Then again, to each his own. For me, however, 4:3 will never do it for me (at least not above 5" or so, not sure at what exact point 4:3 becomes too big to carry; 7.85", however, is definitely beyond that point).
 
If you knew anything about steve you would know he was known to change directions if convinced it was the best idea.

apple needs to crush competition, same thing happened in ipod and ipod killed crappy mp3 toys back then, now they need to crush android based crap in the market, and giving customers the choice and experience that only apple has, what say?
 
I am ready for my multi-touch TABLETOP COMPUTER!!

BRING IT APPLE.

(and yes, it's amazing how nobody has really done this yet, when the technology is fully there...yet Apple makes these tiny devices like the iPhone and iPad -- a full-size multitouch computing environment of a desktop scale would be a revolutionary product that could birth a new generation of computing as we know it.)

Like Microsoft's former Surface (now PixelSense)?

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/pixelsense/default.aspx
 
The rumor has been consistently linking the smaller iPad using the in-cell technology to reduce the bezel, which makes a lot of sense since it'll mostly solve the width problem.

It will still be wider then the Nexus 7 and it still needs to have a bezel to help you hold it, not very easy to hold something with just a touch screen covering the entire front surface with no bezel.
 
Apple and affordable don't go together. If there will be ipad mini it will be far from affordable
 
People just don't understand area. They think 7 must be about the same thing as 7.85. Why, it's only 0.85 bigger! Steve was wrong!
 
apple needs to crush competition, same thing happened in ipod and ipod killed crappy mp3 toys back then, now they need to crush android based crap in the market, and giving customers the choice and experience that only apple has, what say?

I don't get the "Apple must crush Android" talk. Why must it crush anything? Aren't the people on this forum always talking about how choice is supposedly good?
 
But then how will they tempt you to upgrade to the iPad mini 2?

do you seriously think they had retina tech ready to go on the ipad 2 but they "held out" so youd have to upgrade the next year? look at all the beef about the rMBP for gods sake, everyone saying they released it before the tech was ready (ridiculous as well).

man, theyre damned either way
 
Perhaps, he doesn't want an ugly tablet. Huge bezel=ugly

my point is, how would you hold it? your fingers would be touching the screen, constantly. the bezel is a place for your fingers to go.. maybe with in cell tech they can figure out a way around it. I can see it now, apple releases a thin bezel iPad and the forums fill up with comments like "how does apple expect me to use this when all i do is hold it and my fingers trigger all kinds of things. I guess im 'holding it wrong'"
 
Also of note: the 9.7” iPad has about the same square inches of display as those 10.1” tablets. They have a narrow shape that sounds better on paper than in practice, for most tasks.

10.1” widescreen tablets are 45.8 sq. in.

9.7” iPad is 45.2 sq. in.

[math corrected]
 
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Apple and affordable don't go together. If there will be ipad mini it will be far from affordable

there are PLENTY of people who can afford apple products. are you aware the very computer you just typed this on is a RIDICULOUSLY expensive product for a lot of people in the world?
 
I don't get the "Apple must crush Android" talk. Why must it crush anything? Aren't the people on this forum always talking about how choice is supposedly good?

yes choice is good not the idea of flooding the market with prod like kindle fire n other tablets that never took off, imagine folks who bought these products, what value it holds? now compare all that to original ipad, the ipad1 its still more valuable then all these half-assed products combined
 
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