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I don't get the bezel hate. It's like you read an article on any tablet, and sooner or later, someone will bring up how the bezel is stupid and should be smaller.

"I saw a picture of the new iPad the other day, and it still has that ABSOLUTELY USELESS BEZEL! I hate how Apple put a space around the screen that I can grip without directly touching the screen because that's totally stupid and the screen could be bigger without it or something and OH GOD IT JUST MAKES ME SOOOOO MAAAADDD".

The bezel on the proposed mini screen size is key to how it can be used. It can be one handed, so wide bezels on the sides aren't needed for adult sized hands.
Wide bezels on the sides will increase the width, and make it less portable.
 
there are PLENTY of people who can afford apple products. are you aware the very computer you just typed this on is a RIDICULOUSLY expensive product for a lot of people in the world?

Before u start yelling and screaming read my post again.
 
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apple needs to crush competition, same thing happened in ipod and ipod killed crappy mp3 toys back then, now they need to crush android based crap in the market, and giving customers the choice and experience that only apple has, what say?

So if apple "crush" the "android based crap" in the market, exactly how does that give customers choice?
 
It will still be wider then the Nexus 7 and it still needs to have a bezel to help you hold it, not very easy to hold something with just a touch screen covering the entire front surface with no bezel.

With a smaller tablet you don't need that much room because you don't always hold it with two hands and even with two hands you don't need a big bezel for your thumb. You can hold the sides easily. I have a 7" tablet and the bezel is really oversized for its usage.
 
It's only a daydream, but I'd love an iBooks device... thing... that only had the iBooks App and the store to go with it. Instant on to the bookshelf, instant off.

That to me would be a good excuse for a mini-iReading device, and it would no doubt be cheaper too.

Yes. I'm for this.

For me right now, the two things that keep me buying books from Amazon in Kindle format are: (1) More titles; (2) eInk displays that work nicely by the pool.
I think that the iBook store will continue to grow and thus address that first concern more and more. But I still don't enjoy trying to read my iPad out by the pool. If Apple released a super-inexpensive iBook reader for outdoor use - with wifi built in - that synced bookmarks, notes, highlights and reading progress just like any other iOS device - then I'd buy it yesterday.
 
yes choice is good not the idea of flooding the market with prod like kindle fire n other tablets that never took off, imagine folks who bought these products, what value it holds? now compare all that to original ipad, the ipad1 its still more valuable then all these half-assed products combined

It's giving people an option to get a $199 tablet that works well as a reader and for many of the functions that a lot of people want tablets for. It's no iPad but it doesn't have to be.
 
If Apple do release this iPad mini, I would bet all the money I have that it WILL be retina.

I agree. The new iPads, iPhone 4 and 4S, iPod touch (4th gen) and now MacBooks (Retina Pro and upcoming 13" MBPs?) sport Retina displays. It would be the easiest thing in the world for Apple to make iPad mini with a Retina display as well.
 
Gruber goes on to note that Jobs was panning small, expensive tablets running a version of Android never intended to be used on devices larger than phones....

And iOS WAS intended for devices larger than phones!? :eek: I feel like I am missing a crucial piece of information here.

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The bezel on the proposed mini screen size is key to how it can be used. It can be one handed, so wide bezels on the sides aren't needed for adult sized hands.
Wide bezels on the sides will increase the width, and make it less portable.

So... bezel and button less 7.85" tablet is what you're saying right? :) I'm all in for that!
 
And iOS WAS intended for devices larger than phones!? :eek: I feel like I am missing a crucial piece of information here.

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So... bezel and button less 7.85" tablet is what you're saying right? :) I'm all in for that!

Probably not -- just narrow side bezels ... I hope.

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lol I wonder what John Gruber was smoking.

A well packed bowl of insight.
 
Am I the only one who thinks that if an "iPad mini" is introduced, that the iPod Touch should be renamed to "iPad nano"? :rolleyes:

For me right now, the two things that keep me buying books from Amazon in Kindle format are: (1) More titles; (2) eInk displays that work nicely by the pool.
You mean Kindle hardware, right? Amazon has a free Kindle reader app for iOS and other platforms, so you can buy books in Kindle format and read them on your iPad (or whatever you're using). The selection of titles doesn't matter if the app is free, since you'll only pay for what you want. And eInk (obviously) only applies to the hardware.

The only downside to the Kindle app for iOS is that there's no in-app purchases of books. You need to log on to Amazon's web site to buy the books. Then the app can download them.
A 7 inch iPad will not easily fit in your pocket (i.e. not a iPod Touch replacement).
Depends on the size of your pockets :)

But yes, 7" is too big for most people's pants pockets. It may, however, fit in jacket/coat pockets, and it would definitely fit into a purse.
 
youd want a thinner bezel so your fingers constantly touch the screen?

Why do you defend poor design?

They wouldn't touch the screen necessarily. That's just what everyone thinks. Most likely, you'd adapt and find a way to make it work. In the end, you'd have a lighter/smaller product or a bigger screen.

Same goes for the iMac 'chin' and everything else.
 
And iOS WAS intended for devices larger than phones!? :eek: I feel like I am missing a crucial piece of information here

Well... actually yes, in two ways. First the iOS project had originally began as a tablet project which just happened to be released on a phone first.

But I'm sure you don't like that answer. iOS was redesigned in a few core ways to run on the iPad vs the iPhone. Sure this mostly just consisted in redesigning all the individual apps. Prior to Honeycomb, Android hadn't been designed for tablets. So all those 7" tabs were completely just the phone OS blown up on a tablet. Imagine if every single app on the iPad (stock apps included) were simply x2 of the iPhone apps... yikes!
 
Looks way too wide horizontally. Which is a gripe I have with the current iPad.
 
If they can sell these for $249 or even $299 I'll buy one, maybe two. I've had a removable iPad install in my dashboard since Sept 2010, it works great but it's just a bit too large for my car's cramped center console. I could built a 7" tablet in, and it would look great.

And to those dissing a 7" tablet because "I don't want one," please bear in mind you are not representative of 100% of the population :rolleyes:
 
I don't believe this...damn apple...where is innovation? stop with small increment and start using your vision.

EDIT: Apparently, some loser got offended because I was telling the truth. Truth hurts, little boy.
 
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Of the images shown I think it is closest to the Nexus with a narrow side and top chin to make single hand hold easier. Like a big iPhone.

I also think it will be one device for many uses. In-car GPS, remote control, educational and kid iPad, oversize iPodTouch, Magic trac pad, mobile media device, voip, skype, and others.

It is a "third generation" pad. 1. iPod Touch, iPhone, 2. iPad, 3. iPad Mini.

I think it might have a dock port on two sides or 802.11ac. I think if it has one dock port it will be on the long side.

Rocketman

I agree Steve's mini iPad talk was largely FUD and mis-direction, with some factoids to stitch it together and add suspended disbelief.
 
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if gruber is saying its possible than its most likely coming. he doesn't usually speak up unless he knows for sure its coming.

Bull. Gruber has been wrong many times. He was one of the Apple fanatic writers who said that the iPad 3 was going to be released last Fall. He was pretty emphatic, then was quiet when fall came and went.

I also am not sure I like that MR is basically rehashing Gruber's post as new information when it is nothing but pure opinion. I don't see it as a rumor either, just one man opining on a rumored smaller iPad (or bigger iPod whatever stance you take).
 
So this is how the Steve-is-infallible fanatics will explain the U-turn.

I don't think very many Steve-is-infallible fanatics actually exist.

Steve is well know to change his mind.
Surely almost all Steve-fanatics know this.

In fact, it may be one of the things that people admire about him since it takes some courage to face the inevitible criticism for doing so.
 
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