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Why are people in here so mean?

It's a well established community.

They should really show post counts so you can get an idea of this.

Infrequent visitors might find it confusing.

I just show up when there's a launch. I find it somewhat odd, but it's ok.

It's fun 🙂
 
Lennyvalentin said:
You could fill entire tomes on human psychology and what drives people to act in a certain way (lack of face-to-face communication makes it hard for many to emphatize with others …
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"… a person's view of the world and his or her attitudes toward the self and others. … they reveal their expectations of relationships with peers, parents or other authority figures, subordinates, and possible romantic partners. In addition to assessing the content of the stories that the subject is telling, the examiner evaluates the subject's manner, vocal tone, posture, hesitations, and other signs of an emotional response …"​


That's not intended to answer the question – Why are people in here so mean? – but I found it linked from a 2009 post that touched upon an element of online meanness. With additional emphasis:

"… the question was not "please label me, diagnose me, mock my suffering, display your adamantine wit at my expense and call me a liar."

Maybe all the goddamn armchair analysts out there need to cast their gimlet eye on each other and reinterpret the thread as one colossal thematic apperception test. Which posters are susceptible to paranoid ideation? Can you spot the feeble-minded histrionics and self-absorbed narcissists just itching to command the thread and prove themselves right? Who uses humor to ward off empathy? Who's desperately afraid of being made a sucker?

Fascinating …"​

Food for thought. That's all.

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I know, there's a risk of complaint of this post being off-topic because neither of those quotes is Apple-related, but I did find the second page uppermost whilst seeking halfway apple sixcolors bleed (the halfway keyword was my recollection of an Apple-related observation from six months ago: "… initially enthusiastic about this approach, then realized it wasn’t applicable to many situations, and rather than abandoning it just decided to live with the inconsistency. …").
 
Why are people in here so mean?

Lucifer666 said:
It's a well established community.

They should really show post counts so you can get an idea of this.

Infrequent visitors might find it confusing.

I just show up when there's a launch. I find it somewhat odd, but it's ok.

It's fun 🙂
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There is a post count if you click on a users name. Or if you know what the "nickname" means you can tell.
For example I'm a 68000 which means over a thousand posts I think
 
Some folks have a tendency to allow previous experiences to cloud their judgement. It's just something we, as a society, will have to live with until more people learn to deal with their emotions.
 
deviant said:
Most new users come here and create new threads for things that were discussed a million times before (but that's still kinda ok. But there are some that come here and create flame threads like "it just works, except it doesn't, i hate it, i can't take it anymore". some create thread like "i want to use it THIS way but now i can't, even if it's not supposed to work that way I WANT IT like THAT and i DON'T CARE". Some are just plain stupid like "i love my 6+, do you love it too? iPhone 6 sucks, right? haha". Some are pointless.. "iPhone 6 radiation OFF THE CHARTS and we are all gonna die, thanks for cancer, apple!"

That's annoying, that's all.
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Because we are newbies 😡😡😡😡 You should be nice with us 😉

Thanks
Camelia
 
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Why are people in here so mean?

camelia said:
Because we are newbies 😡😡😡😡 You should be nice with us 😉



Thanks

Camelia
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+1 But most of us MR members are sharing=caring folks, but will correct you if you did'nt read MR rulezzzzz!

Nevermind the negatives, focus on the possitives!

Cheers to all newbies, as I was one myself a while back! ;-)
 
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Actually, my sense is that most people in this forum are not 'mean', and that considerable effort goes into ensuring that the tone of the forum remains courteous, decent and generally welcoming.

The vast majority are pretty positive and generally helpful when interacting with, and responding to, the questions, queries and comments of other posters.

Of course, there are some areas where exchanges tend to be a bit more heated. Or inflammatory.

By repute, the iPhone forum is supposedly a place where exchanges can be robust, extremely enthusiastic and perhaps, less then completely balanced. As a consequence, I tend to give it a very wide berth…..

Equally, the PRSI (political, religious and social issues) section can be home to heated exchanges.
 
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Scepticalscribe said:
Actually, my sense is that most people in this forum are not 'mean', and that considerable effort goes into ensuring that the tone of the forum remains courteous, decent and generally welcoming.

The vast majority are pretty positive and generally helpful when interacting with, and responding to, the questions, queries and comments of other posters.

Of course, there are some areas where exchanges tend to be a bit more heated. Or inflammatory.

By repute, the iPhone forum is supposedly a place where exchanges can be robust, extremely enthusiastic and perhaps, less then completely balanced. As a consequence, I tend to give it a very wide berth…..

Equally, the PRSI (political, religious and social issues) section can be home to heated exchanges.
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Exchanges can be heated in any forum. Cameras, cars...anyplace. And then at times the tone can take a turn.
 
I7guy said:
Exchanges can be heated in any forum. Cameras, cars...anyplace. And then at times the tone can take a turn.
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Usually, in camera and car threads those posting tend to be fellow enthusiasts enthusing, and sharing what they have, or know, or have come across. Responses tend to be enthusiastic, too, and the tone generous. You rarely have dismissive comments, or posts which seek to denigrate what someone else is writing. At most, you will have an agreement to differ, over say, preferences in what you wish to photograph, or in what type of car you may wish to drive.

However, in some of the other fora under discussion, the heated discussions can turn personal - and occasionally - nasty, as anonymity and lack of inhibition combined can give rise to the sort of posts which would rarely be addressed to somebody in a face-to-face context, or setting.
 
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Scepticalscribe said:
Usually, in camera and car threads those posting tend to be fellow enthusiasts enthusing, and sharing what they have, or know, or have come across. Responses tend to be enthusiastic, too, and the tone generous. You rarely have dismissive comments, or posts which seek to denigrate what someone else is writing. At most, you will have an agreement to differ, over say, preferences in what you wish to photograph, or in what type of car you may wis to drive.

However, in some of the other fora under discussion, the heated discussions can turn personal - and occasionally - nasty, as anonymity and lack of inhibition combined can give rise to the sort of posts which would rarely be addressed to somebody in a face-to-face context, or setting.
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Well...I've seen a discussion turn heated in camera forums where a "newbie" asks which camera should I get? Nikon or Canon? You would be amazed at the condescending tones and nitpicking that goes on. Similar for car forums Toyota vs Honda, BMW vs Infiniti, and on and on. Here, Samsung vs apple, ios vs android.
 
I7guy said:
Well...I've seen a discussion turn heated in camera forums where a "newbie" asks which camera should I get? Nikon or Canon? You would be amazed at the condescending tones and nitpicking that goes on. Similar for car forums Toyota vs Honda, BMW vs Infiniti, and on and on. Here, Samsung vs apple, ios vs android.
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Yes, well, sad to have to say, but you may have a point, I'm afraid.

Unfortunately, I think a number of people in some of those fora confuse and conflate the devices they use as a badge, or statement, of their identity.

Thus, what may have been intended as a criticism of the device, (or car, or camera) can be viewed as an attack on the product in question, and hence, by extension, on themselves as they may have invested a considerable portion of their sense self identity in their ownership of this device.
 
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To be fair the OP's experience is of the iPhone thread I'm not surprised they find it unfreindly, I very rarely look in there as I can't be bothered to wade through the threads frothing at the mouth complaining about things. I swear some people even start threads thinking that they are communicating directly with apple.

What until the OP stumbles into PRSI though, they're in for a real treat. I've had to turn all my notifications off as some of the posters in there keep posting and posting, and some of the stuff they come out with makes me so angry. I'd actually like the ability to turn forum sections off for that reason, because they're a bit like crack, you can't help but look, but when the high wears off I just realise quite the level of attitude I'm dealing with 🙁
 
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sim667 said:
To be fair the OP's experience is of the iPhone thread I'm not surprised they find it unfreindly, I very rarely look in there as I can't be bothered to wade through the threads frothing at the mouth complaining about things. I swear some people even start threads thinking that they are communicating directly with apple.

What until the OP stumbles into PRSI though, they're in for a real treat. I've had to turn all my notifications off as some of the posters in there keep posting and posting, and some of the stuff they come out with makes me so angry. I'd actually like the ability to turn forum sections off for that reason, because they're a bit like crack, you can't help but look, but when the high wears off I just realise quite the level of attitude I'm dealing with 🙁
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Re PRSI, I suspect it is an unfortunate collision of both content and tone which gives rise to your reaction.

In any case, do you think that the anonymity afforded by the internet allows, or encourages, the delightfully uninhibited expression of such (occasionally loathsome) views?

My own personal solution is to pick - very gingerly - which areas I will attempt to dip a toe in. Alas, you cannot fight them all, and nor is it healthy or sane - for yourself - to try to do so.
 
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Scepticalscribe said:
… My own personal solution is to pick - very gingerly - which areas I will attempt to dip a toe in. …
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I don't actively seek out areas where I'm likely to find unacceptable behaviour but if I do find myself in such an area, the ignore feature is readily available. If someone makes repeated attempts to trouble me, personally, then the ignorance will probably be endless; energies will be better spent on people who prefer to engage in group discussion. Thankfully, troublemakers are rare.

I distinguish between personal troublemakers, and areas where troublesome threads are likely to arise within a topic.

After naturally breaking away from a trouble area, I'll either stumble across ignored content, or not stumble across it. If the ignored content is not from a personal troublemaker, then I can easily show the content and decide whether it's timely to end the ignorance. That's where XenForo shines, compared to vBulletin.
 
Scepticalscribe said:
Re PRSI, I suspect it is an unfortunate collision of both content and tone which gives rise to your reaction.

In any case, do you think that the anonymity afforded by the internet allows, or encourages, the delightfully uninhibited expression of such (occasionally loathsome) views?

My own personal solution is to pick - very gingerly - which areas I will attempt to dip a toe in. Alas, you cannot fight them all, and nor is it healthy or sane - for yourself - to try to do so.
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Yeah definately.

I do like a good debate too which is unfortunate.
 
whenever i read the comments from articles on 'Rumors' front page all i read is complete and utter negativity. Total. it's completely depressing to look at. who the hell are these idiots? i appreciate we all have opinions and have the right to air them but heck, its a constant drivel. it's depressing to read even if i occasionally side with an argument or 2. but to constantly be as nasty and negative as most people there it's bad kama and bad for one's soul.

who are they? they certainly aren't present in these forums. and if they always sprout so much hate and spite why bother visiting even?
There's both positive and negative vibes here, but all constructive, which is so important. constructiveness is never evident over there.

rant over. sorry guys.
 
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Got a link to some examples in particular?

Regarding IPP - Tech podcast after tech article that is actually going into detail about IPP is pretty disappointed with it. It's more about the fact they rushed it out with all KINDS of IOS interface issues and incomplete/unaddressed areas and then the lack of accessory availability.

Were you talking beyond IPP?
 
i was talking about comments in general, nothing specific. take your pick 🙂

my issue isnt with specific areas of technicality, but the general term and tone posters take.
 
turbineseaplane said:
Regarding IPP - Tech podcast after tech article that is actually going into detail about IPP is pretty disappointed with it. It's more about the fact they rushed it out with all KINDS of IOS interface issues and incomplete/unaddressed areas and then the lack of accessory availability.
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I've seen a lot of mixed impressions; the consensus seems to be (from what I've seen) that the iPP is an exceptional tablet with a great screen and the best stylus in most people's experiences, but that as an office productivity device or computer replacement it's limited in its usefulness. I don't know that I would characterize that as disappointment, just incredulity that iOS is ready to serve as a desktop OS replacement.

All kinds of iOS interface issues? I haven't see almost any complaints about UI issues, except for perhaps app scaling due to apps not being adjusted for the iPP's resolution. Is that what you're referring to?
 
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