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What is wrong with the 5S or the 5c. Isn't it great that there is choice?

So yes the six has got an a8 wow big deal. I don't notice any speed difference in my six plus versus my less than 12 months old 5s.

I don't get the anger either. Plenty of choice, the range expanded not reduced. It is all good.


No 64 gb model with the 5S anymore.
 
Still currently available on their website.

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Not sure how to make this any easier to understand.

5s = NOT CURRENT GENERATION (came out in 2013).

Doesn't matter if it's still listed on their website, that doesn't magically insert 2014 hardware into the device.
 
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Not sure how to make this any easier to understand.

5s = NOT CURRENT GENERATION (came out in 2013).

Doesn't matter if it's still listed on their website, that doesn't magically insert 2014 hardware into the device.

LOL, I get it. But you are moaning that there isn't a smaller phone. Then again, they could've used the same shell as the last iPod
 
I used the 6 for a few hours before realising it just wasn't for me. Gave it back the next day and bought a 5S instead. The 6 was just too uncomfortable to use.



What's the point of a bigger screen if it compromises usability? Try reaching your thumb into the top left corner of the screen (as you frequently have to on iOS), it just doesn't work without readjusting your grip and making it easy to slip out of your grasp.



The very fact that you need a feature called "Reachability" says it all. It's practically admitting the screen is too big for conventional use! Such an inelegant solution and Apple would never have offered such big phones if they didn't feel the need to catch up to Samsung.



As I said, I don't see understand the fascination with a huge screen in your pocket if you can't use it comfortably. I think the 5S is the perfect phone and am thrilled with it. This "which smartphone has the biggest screen!!11" pi55ing competition has ruined the iPhone line IMO.


I have no problem using my 6 plus. Sure you can't use it in the same way you use the 5s, but who says one must use it that way. Some prefer the larger size and the advantages that come with a bigger screen and battery etc. sure others will prefer the smaller size and one hand usability. There are cons and pros to each. To make a blanket statement about a phones usability in nonsensical.
 
No one said they aren't infalliable, but they are still the experts. Samsung and HTC too. More expert than you. Move on and make your own phone if you don't like it.

You have absolutely no idea what my background is. So you should stop making yourself look foolish.

FYI I ran a design firm for a number of years that I founded which made consumer electronics including some in the same product categories Apple are currently in.

The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus look nicer with the curved display than the 5/5S did. But the back, the sides, the bezels do not look great. Other manufacturers including Samsung have been able to reduce the bezels of their phones and the phones look better for it.
 
What is wrong with the 5S or the 5c. Isn't it great that there is choice?

So yes the six has got an a8 wow big deal. I don't notice any speed difference in my six plus versus my less than 12 months old 5s.

I don't get the anger either. Plenty of choice, the range expanded not reduced. It is all good.

I have a 5s it's a great phone, I'm glad I bought it last year.
Now say I want a new phone, but i like the old size. I'm not going to buy a 5s, already have one, and it's 64GB, which apple don't sell any more. I'd also want apple pay, and faster a8 chip. I'm out of luck.
So my actual choice is sticking with the phone I have, or buying a phone I don't want.
 
You have absolutely no idea what my background is. So you should stop making yourself look foolish.

FYI I ran a design firm for a number of years that I founded which made consumer electronics including some in the same product categories Apple are currently in.

The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus look nicer with the curved display than the 5/5S did. But the back, the sides, the bezels do not look great. Other manufacturers including Samsung have been able to reduce the bezels of their phones and the phones look better for it.

Foolish? You don't know my background and I'm not going to stoop down to your level and try to impress with what I do.

"Designers", freelancers, Ltd Companies etc are "ten-a-penny", some are successful, some aren't. You clearly need to understand that "running" a design firm does not automatically make you a better judge than anyone else on this forum.
 
Foolish? You don't know my background and I'm not going to stoop down to your level and try to impress with what I do.

You clearly need to understand that "running" a design firm does not automatically make you a better judge than anyone else on this forum.

I said you were making yourself look foolish for making broad assumptions I suggest you read this post to learn how to not look foolish in public http://www.wikihow.com/Become-a-Fool. I'm not out to impress anybody, just setting straight your incorrect assumptions about other posters.

Have a great day.
 
or people who prefer smaller phones refusing to acknowledge that others might prefer a larger phone?

There seems to be more of the opposite at the moment. People pushing the large phone saying its the best thing since sliced bread and somethings wrong if you do not like that form factor.

Different strokes for different folks.
 
There seems to be more of the opposite at the moment. People pushing the large phone saying its the best thing since sliced bread and somethings wrong if you do not like that form factor.

Different strokes for different folks.

just like there seem to be those who didn't preorder or can't purchase a 6 Plus at the moment, it being produced in limited quantities, etc. are bashing it to simply justify them not having one.

but to the extent of the latter, agreed, different strokes for different folks.
 
Haters gonna hate. Simple as that.

Some folks also have a compulsive need to project their needs/wants/experience onto the universe as if everyone is or should be like them, or see the world as they do.

Sad really.
 
I haven't noticed any anger towards apple making a larger phone.

I have noticed those people prefer the larger phones refusing to acknowledge that others might prefer a smaller phone.

As the as of a year ago owner of a Note 3 I do have to chuckle at the newfound love for big screens whereas before people looked at you like you had three heads. :rolleyes:
 
I think I can sympathize a bit with the bent feelings of people who were waiting for the new gen iPhone, only to find out that their preferences weren't to be met.

I felt that way when Apple got rid of 17" Macbook pros, got rid of the disk drive (which I did use a lot) etc etc, it just so happened that Apple no longer met my needs with those products.

Perhaps people are concerned that their needs won't be met by new tech in the future and are upset about it. Especially people who love the latest and greatest.

I LOVE the new iMac models, but I also use a disk on occasion, and don't want to have to buy an accessory.. kinda torn. Lucky that my old iMac is still kicking! I will never buy a macbook again though.

I personally never understood the one handed thing but it must sting having Apple plug that their phone was the perfect size regardless of what industry was doing, to do a complete 180 degree turn and leave out the people who DO subscribe to that philosophy and use.
 
Personally I can't get my head around it. No one is forcing anyone to buy anything. What I don't get is just how tiny some people's hands must be.
I'm a gargantuan and have no problem with my 6+. I bought my oh a 6 because her hands are tiny (her biggest finger is a lot smaller than my pinkie) and she has no trouble with it.

Personally I've waited a long time for Apple to make a large screen phone and I'm delighted that they finally have. When I hold my old 5s and even her 6 they feel tiny to me. With those devices I can reach every inch of the phone, screen or otherwise without stretching. With the 6+ I can reach over 90% of the screen one handed and so far haven't used reachability at all.

Now I'm not going to argue one person's preference over another after all that's what it is, a preference. But considering I've got severe nerve damage that limits the use of my hand and my missus has tiny hands and we manage just fine. I don't understand how a 4.7" device can be considered too big.
And if it really, really is. Well there are plenty of other choices.

But I'd be trying to get used to it, there's a definite shift in the mobile market towards larger devices and I don't think it'll be too long before a 4.7"/5" phone is considered to be the standard entry level size.
 
I literally don't get it. whats the big deal? buy whichever one suites you. what is there to get so worked up about?

ever since the two phones were announced its split the iPhone base - and turned some of them against one another - and its just seems so bizarre.

seriously, whats to hate?

People aren't angry about the size of the phone. People who got the 6+ saw it as huge, and opted for the 6. And from what I've read, some have decided to stick with their 5S'.
 
Because people are emotional and corporations are not. For the longest time Apple and its supporters were clamoring that 3.5" or 4" inch phones were the anointed pinnacle of phone design.

Apple, as an unemotional corporation, then changed its mind and went to larger phones where they saw money. This literally pulled the rug from under its die hard fans who were deeply involved supporting the official marketing line. Some of these fans now feel jilted and are angry/ upset. But don't worry, they will come around soon - give them a few weeks.
 
Because people are emotional and corporations are not. For the longest time Apple and its supporters were clamoring that 3.5" or 4" inch phones were the anointed pinnacle of phone design.

Apple, as an unemotional corporation, then changed its mind and went to larger phones where they saw money. This literally pulled the rug from under its die hard fans who were deeply involved supporting the official marketing line. Some of these fans now feel jilted and are angry/ upset. But don't worry, they will come around soon - give them a few weeks.

Yeah, they took the 'thumbs' feature as a word of God and criticized several Android users for big phones. Now that things changed, they don't know how to cope when THEIR company tells them they are wrong.
 
People are insecure. They feel people are judging them for their choices, so they become pro-active and judge other people for theirs in defense. I don't give a crap what size phone other people use. I think the + is too big for me, but am happy that other people are happy with it. :cool:
 
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Not sure how to make this any easier to understand.

5s = NOT CURRENT GENERATION (came out in 2013).

Doesn't matter if it's still listed on their website, that doesn't magically insert 2014 hardware into the device.

I agree with you and you are correct. The 5s is a last-gen phone. However, the 6 is not really that much greater than the 5s in terms of specs, and if not for the larger screen there would be hardly a major reason to upgrade unless they're really into early NFC adoption. Aside from that, there's not much else. In fact, there are even benchmarks out there that even say that the 5s has a superior battery to the 6.

The people with a likeness towards small phones are not going to feel like they're missing out on anything and the 5s will likely hold up for at least another 2 years, tech-wise. Buying a 5s now when you have a likeness to a smaller phone is not a bad idea at all — it's the best on the market of that caliber definitely.
 
I have a 5s it's a great phone, I'm glad I bought it last year.

Now say I want a new phone, but i like the old size. I'm not going to buy a 5s, already have one, and it's 64GB, which apple don't sell any more. I'd also want apple pay, and faster a8 chip. I'm out of luck.

So my actual choice is sticking with the phone I have, or buying a phone I don't want.


Yes for now you are. But then again why do you want a new phone? Besides the bigger screen and better battery life of my 6+ there is no real notable difference compared to the 5S if had until Sunday .

To me, if I wasn't attracted by the larger screen, I would have kept the money in my pocket and kept on happily use my 5S.
 
For many years, the apple user base has maintained that a 4 inch phone was the perfect, ideal size and that anything bigger was stupid, a waste, won't fit in a pocket, can't use one-handed, is a phablet, etc... Now all of a sudden, none of that applies anymore since iPhones are now just as big as the phones they were ridiculing.
 
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