why are we not allowed to buy music from other countries?

Discussion in 'iPod' started by michael31986, Sep 8, 2009.

  1. michael31986 macrumors 68040

    Jul 11, 2008
    is there a way around this.sometimes i really want songs,but they are only available in for ex. 2 big ones for me. UK and portugal
  2. ma2ha3 macrumors regular


    Mar 13, 2007
    yeah that is a good question, i want to buy some japanese songs, but why not possible?
    what wrong with my credit card money, compare to the japs.
  3. wbeasley macrumors 6502


    Nov 23, 2007
    global economy? :)

    it's crazy... we live in a world where you can pretty much order anything over the internet and have it delivered to your home.

    If you want to buy from Amazon, you can get CDs delivered so why shouldn't we get anything we like from iTunes?

    If I was to visit a country and use my foreign credit card they couldn't care less.

    It's about time some of the media companies opened their eyes and realised if they hamper you buying it, people will find other (free) ways to get what they want.

    Can you spell "b-i-t-t-o-r-r-e-n-t"?

    It's not Apple's fault. They are hamstrung by fools with a proven track record of not understanding how people shop/download these days.

    I get tired of seeing things for half the price we pay in Australia. I figure Europeans feel the same way. The sooner we all start buying direct from the US the sooner their economy will bounce back... "welcome to the US of A mega discount online store"...

  4. gnasher729 macrumors P6


    Nov 25, 2005
    It has all to do with copyrights and contracts. If Apple wants to sell a song to people in the UK, for example, they need the permission of the UK branch of some record company, and that branch wants money for every song Apple sells. If a UK citizen bought a song from the store in Portugal, the UK branch of the record company wouldn't get any money, but the Portugal branch would. Therefore Apple doesn't have permission to sell songs from their portugal store to the UK, or the other way round.

    That's one side. Apple has signed contracts that don't allow it to sell to someone in a different country. On the other hand, no store in the EC can legally refuse to sell to anyone in the EC. So the best Apple can do is keep the prices the same everywhere in the EC, to keep the number of complaints down.
  5. skottichan macrumors 6502a


    Oct 23, 2007
    Columbus, OH
    Go to the bottom of the iTMS page, select what nation you want to be able to buy from. Click Sign In, create a new account (you will have to use a different email address than your main). Buy music.

    It's that easy.
  6. whooleytoo macrumors 604


    Aug 2, 2002
    Cork, Ireland.
    Don't they use your credit card to check your 'nationality'?
  7. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    iTunes gift card, FTW.
  8. skottichan macrumors 6502a


    Oct 23, 2007
    Columbus, OH
    Not entirely sure, I just get Japanese iTunes cards, keeps me from buying too much. So, if all else fails, get the regional iTunes card.
  9. whooleytoo macrumors 604


    Aug 2, 2002
    Cork, Ireland.
    Ah, so they don't ask for a credit card when you create the account? (I created my iTunes/MobileMe/.Mac/iTools account almost 10 years ago, don't remember..)

    Are iTunes gift cards 'universal'? Or are they only valid for a given store?
  10. Wotan31 macrumors 6502

    Jun 5, 2008
    Exactly. It's all record company contracts and deals. Itunes is great for managing a music collection, but the iTunes store just sux as far as selection goes. Best way to get content is to buy your own CD's and import them.

    Plenty of internet web sites that sell import albums on CD. Smaller ones like cdbaby.com and larger ones like amazon.com. That's the only way to go is CD. No DRM. No contracts. Nobody can track how you use it or who you share it with. Plus better sound quality than MP3 or AAC. CD's for ever!!!!
  11. skottichan macrumors 6502a


    Oct 23, 2007
    Columbus, OH
    They ask for either a credit/debit card or a gift card, and I just checked, my US debit card works in the Japanese iTMS.

    As far as I know, you have to get the nation's iTunes gift card for where you want to buy from.
  12. ftaok macrumors 603


    Jan 23, 2002
    East Coast
    I would be very careful with using a US debit card in this manner. Not because if ID theft or anything, but just thinking about the exchange rates. Your bank may actually be giving you a very unfavorable exchange rate ... although it may not matter too much depending on your shopping habits.

    Any chance you can confirm what the exchange rate you're getting?

  13. yellow Moderator emeritus


    Oct 21, 2003
    Portland, OR
    I'd like to note, attempting to circumvent the US Store for US purchases outside the US (or similar scenarios) is a violation of the iTunes Terms & Conditions (and therefore subject to our Rules). Here's the one for the US store: http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/us/terms.html#SALES

    Noting that, I will leave this thread open and help that it stays a discussion of the Whys, not the Hows (to circumvent it).


    My opinion is that hopefully eventually this will be worked out on a global contractual scale and the divisions will be removed. However, there's a lot of variables in this equation and I don't have my hopes up for this happening anytime soon. As others have noted, exchange rates and VAT applications can be a killer to the whole process, not to mention a boon/bust for the Apple corp in varying countries.
  14. sbking macrumors member

    Feb 27, 2009
    This is so annoying, I want to buy just one song from the Japanese iTunes Store but I can't, and buying a whole gift card just for one song is a waste, so I'm screwed :(
  15. alphaod macrumors Core


    Feb 9, 2008
    Apple separates it by country simply because of trade laws; by selling crossborders, the media would be subject to trade tariffs, etc.
  16. kunal123 macrumors member

    May 4, 2009
    Well guys this has been fascinating but tell me how is apple going to get any money from 'cause I live in India and am not allowed to browse the available songs or even download the free songs. Same for movies. I can only use the app store.
  17. weckart macrumors 601

    Nov 7, 2004
    More to the point, artists may be signed to different record labels in different countries. If it were branches of the same record company Apple had to deal with, then Apple could easily collate the source of the purchases and pass the information back to the record companies to carry out their internal transfer pricing. However, someone might be signed to Universal in one country and EMI in another etc. Sometimes this leads to some artists' records being available in a number of iTunes stores and not in others depending upon the contracts signed between Apple and the record companies.

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