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Cable management.

With an ACD, you have one sleek greyish/white cable.

With a Dell, you have a power cord, DVI cable, and a USB cable.
 
I'm strictly a consumer-level user. However, due to style & a desire to use Apple products, I would be willing to ante up the price premium to buy a 23" ACD EXCEPT for the fact ACDs suck in the area of adjusitibility--I just can't get myself to pay $350 USD more for a monitor that can't even be height adjusted...such a simple feature that isn't included. Now seeing the posts about issues w/ the 23" panel itself (stuck/dead pixels, etc.), I am thinking long & hard about what new monitor to get for my new MBP (I am currently using a Dell 2005fpw).
 
When I can get a monitor with DVI and HDMI inputs between 23-30inch in size, thats when I get my credit card out. Im praying Apple will do this but somehow I think the next version of Dell's 24inch will have this input.

What do you guys think? Next gen monitors with HDMI?
 
When I can get a monitor with DVI and HDMI inputs between 23-30inch in size, thats when I get my credit card out. Im praying Apple will do this but somehow I think the next version of Dell's 24inch will have this input.

What do you guys think? Next gen monitors with HDMI?

The monitors have really been the forgotten uncle of mac rumors...besides a price adjustment they haven't done much for a while, yet one does not find a new thread every 20 minutes titled "WHERE THE #(*$%& ARE THE NEW ACD's IM SWITCHING BACK!!!" like you do for, at the moment, minis.

It's probably cuz the pricepoints scare a lot of regular users like me away, and pros have a better perspective on product release cycles...anyway, all this to say that IMO Apple HAS to keep pros and high-end consumers happy, which should equal HDMI output more sooner than later. This whole thread is living proof that pros think ACDs are worth the pricetag, and not just for the pretty frame; thus it would behoove them to take care of this rather demanding and well-moneyed crowd and give them the outputs they want.
 
no support for htpc though

I'd agree its a fantastic looking display. One thing I would point out though is that I don't think it supports htpc. So although its resolution (e.g. 1920x1200) may support watching High Definition stuff. You may not be able to watch a blu-ray disk for example. As I understand it htpc has to be supported all the way through otherwise your picture gets downgraded.
 
I'd agree its a fantastic looking display. One thing I would point out though is that I don't think it supports htpc. So although its resolution (e.g. 1920x1200) may support watching High Definition stuff. You may not be able to watch a blu-ray disk for example. As I understand it htpc has to be supported all the way through otherwise your picture gets downgraded.

You are corect HTPC must be supported along the entire chain to watch HTPC stuff.
 
When I can get a monitor with DVI and HDMI inputs between 23-30inch in size, thats when I get my credit card out. Im praying Apple will do this but somehow I think the next version of Dell's 24inch will have this input.

What do you guys think? Next gen monitors with HDMI?

Most of the new Dells (and other brand) LCDs that I've been looking at support HDCP over DVI, meaning you should be able to get an HDMI->DVI cable and use them just fine (HDMI-DVI cables are about the same price as a standard DVI cable, or HDMI one at that).

Unless you mean you want dual digital inputs, in which case you'll probably have to wait awhile. :(
 
Apple displays are calibrated before they leave the factory and the 20, 23 and 30 inch displays are therefore SWOP certified for color matching using colorsync profiles.

If you understand this, then you understand that the cost is worth it for high end design work.

You can calibrate a dell with both colorsync and a calibrator (about $300) but there is not substitute from having that original default calibration profile for sure.

For me, this alone justifies the cost difference. Far more important than any other variable.

DJO

so theres no need to make a calibration to the ACDs is that what u mean?
 
so theres no need to make a calibration to the ACDs is that what u mean?

No I would not say that as a general statement.

I would suggest this: If you are a graphic artist, to whom a colorsync color matching system is important, then the ACD provides a complete out-of-the-box solution that integrates with ICC profiles from scanners, operating systems, desktop and wide format printers, Offset and Web Presses, other monitors and cameras.

However, one can do quite well by buying a more-affordable non-apple monitor with a calibrator -- this former solution can actually be more useful to this said designer. However, it is important to:

1) Buy a calibrator with software that can generate "portable" ICC profiles -- this is important so that one can "Share" the profiles with clients as they send files with this profile embedded.

2) Learn how to use the above software.

3) Buy a monitor with an S-IPS panel as the color tables are more stable and suited to desktop publishing as opposed to video or games.

If one does not wish to have the trouble of the above, or to spend the money on the calibrator (often offset by lower monitor cost however), then the ACD's are a great choice for DTP work.

My 2 cents,

Dante
 
Don't have time to read the whole thread so pardon me if this is redundant.

Dell Monitors are much better for many reasons not the least of which is price. They all have DUAL VGA and DVI inputs PLUS video inputs PLUS they rotate (ATI cards support rotation) PLUS 4 port USB hubs PLUS memory card readers.

The 24" 1920x1200 Dell is on sale now for $674.

The 20" 1600x1200 Dell is on sale now for $382.

Great, the 2407WFP that's $674 to you guys (approx 520EUR) is more than 1100EUR in europe - that's more than twice the price, WTF?

http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=be&l=fr&s=dhs&cs=bedhs1&sku=59204

In this situation the ACD's seem to be pretty good value, no?
 
I've spent the last 72 hrs wrestling w/my decision going back and forth between a 20" ACD and the Dell. I finally decided to gamble and buy a used ACD on Ebay - the odds of getting a duff unit seem less likely than losing the panel lottery and the seller stated that it was mint w/no dead pixels. I made sure to buy from someone w/100% and a good number of feedbacks so at least I have some kind of recourse.

At $455 shipped it seems like a good option.
 
Since were on this topic i would like to get you guys opinion on my situation. I was having a hard time deciding between the dell 22" and the acd 23". My xbox 360 would be the main device hooked up but I may want to hook up my 2.33 mbp to watch a movie. But its not as important as performance for the xbox. What should I do?
 
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