Why buy an iPhone 5s? I need motivation

R.Stoychev said:
Go for the iphone 5s, it is blazing fast and really good looking phone with better app store :D :)
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It is, indeed, but he already has a powerful device (bloated with Samsung customization, sadly :rolleyes:), so I can't see a valid reason to buy NOW in April an iPhone 5s.
He can live with his note 3 for 6 months awaiting for the next iPhone, and maybe buy a 5.5" variant that could be a perfect substitute for his phablet.
 
Max(IT) said:
Screen in time is an useless information, since the iPhone could be working also with the screen not lighted (I.e. Music, gps, push notifications and so on ...).
But I don't listen music on my iPhone, so in my 8 hrs of usage the screen surely is on 90% of the time.
4 hrs are definitely below average for an iPhone 5S.

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Did you take the time to check the link I posted ? Most of the user of iPhone 5s are experiencing usage times well above the 6 hrs threshold ....
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Screen on time is not useless at all since the screen is the biggest power draw. The usage statistic in iOS is totally useless though for battery life comparison because as you said people could be doing anything in the usage time.

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Hunter78 said:
Okej i am a Apple fan boy (have many Apple product)

But I was disappointed about my iPhone 4S battery 3 years later. Now i have about 3h on 3G with my iPhone 4S, before my 4S is dead.

Today I am using a Samsung Note 3 (as prime phone) with minimum 1d 2h standby and 6h 18 min active (screentime) but I am thinking of too replace my 4S with a iPhone 5s.

But I am afraid I won't have good battery and I will need too use a battery pack for iPhone 5s.

So what is your battery use (screentime) on only 3G/ 4G - Ltd use with your iPhone 5S. And Try too motivated me why I should by a iPhone 5s 64GB.
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The battery life on the 5S won't be anything near as good as a note 3, an average user will have to charge a 5S once a day.
 
Seems to me like you feel like spending some money but don't really feel the need to have a new iPhone. How buying that 5S for me instead? I wouldn't mind upgrading from my 5.
 
Hunter78 said:
What I really need too know is that the battery is not rubbish in use. Thats why lam asking before I buy.
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You are wanting us to compare your 4S after three years of use to a 5S after (a maximum of) six months use.

I am sure your 4S, out of the box, was fine (if it was dying ~3 hours out of the box it was silly of you not to return it). The phone hash;t been out to wear the battery out that much. Three years of heavy use will take a toll on a battery's capacity. It's a fact of life. You probably had over 1000 charge cycles on the thing...

Here is a bit on charge cycles straight from Apple:
Charge Cycles
A properly maintained iPhone battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity at 500 full charge and discharge cycles. You may choose to replace your battery when it no longer holds sufficient charge to meet your needs.
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http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html
 
Hunter78 said:
I am using my phone primarily for sms/mms, mail, twitter, Facebook news reading and calling a lot of calls.
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The iPhone 5S does all the things you have mentioned there very well. Why do you need to be motivated, its just a good phone not a life changing experience.
 
Much better phones than the iPhone 5s.......

The main problem with iPhone is it's screen, way too small. Htc One, Note, Nexus, Lg G2 are all better phones.


Next week the Galaxy S5 comes out which will be even better and by the end of the month we should see the new Sony Xperia Z2, I own the Z1s and love it. Best phone I have ever owned, my wife owns an iPhone 5s.

The ONLY possibly thing I can think of that I like with Apple is the software and certain apps you cannot find on the android market, but every time I pick up that phone and use I simply cannot get past how small the screen is.

iPhone 6 should be better, till then I am going to upgrade to either the new Htc One M8, S5 or Xperia Z2 (hopefully they release by the end of April in U.S.)
 
IFRIT said:
Screen on time is not useless at all since the screen is the biggest power draw. The usage statistic in iOS is totally useless though for battery life comparison because as you said people could be doing anything in the usage time.

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What's your typical smartphone usage ? To watch a lighted display without doing nothing ? I don't think so ...
I can use my iPhone, and I'm actually using it that way three times a week, for gps tracking while performing my running. Music is playing in background, running data are recorded, track is recorded, a lot of useful informations are given to me through the earphones (pace, heart rate, distance, time ....) .... and the screen is switched off. Is it an active usage ? It is !
CPU is working, data are exchanged, gps is activated ... a lot of things are running at full throttle but the screen is turned off.

The battery life on the 5S won't be anything near as good as a note 3, an average user will have to charge a 5S once a day.
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An average SMARTPHONE user (typically text, mails, web browsing, phone calling and social networks) would have to charge the Note 3 on e a day too.
It has a bigger battery, but not so much better since the device consumes much more (bigger screen, higher frequency CPU, less optimized os).
 
No one should buy a 5S this late in the year. In a few months we will see the new iPhone 6 and all those who have had their iPhone 5S' for a month or 2 will be kicking themselves.
 
pooleman said:
No one should buy a 5S this late in the year. In a few months we will see the new iPhone 6 and all those who have had their iPhone 5S' for a month or 2 will be kicking themselves.
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I agree with you .... I think the "deadline" was January/February ... After that is wiser to wait for the next model.
 
Max(IT) said:
What's your typical smartphone usage ? To watch a lighted display without doing nothing ? I don't think so ...
I can use my iPhone, and I'm actually using it that way three times a week, for gps tracking while performing my running. Music is playing in background, running data are recorded, track is recorded, a lot of useful informations are given to me through the earphones (pace, heart rate, distance, time ....) .... and the screen is switched off. Is it an active usage ? It is !
CPU is working, data are exchanged, gps is activated ... a lot of things are running at full throttle but the screen is turned off.


An average SMARTPHONE user (typically text, mails, web browsing, phone calling and social networks) would have to charge the Note 3 on e a day too.
It has a bigger battery, but not so much better since the device consumes much more (bigger screen, higher frequency CPU, less optimized os).
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You are making assumptions i've owned a Note 2 and I'd say I use my phone more than the average user and could get 2 days fine.
 
IFRIT said:
You are making assumptions i've owned a Note 2 and I'd say I use my phone more than the average user and could get 2 days fine.
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I'm not making any assumption: our company's phone is Note 3 and I used it for several months before swapping it with a Lumia 925.
 
Max(IT) said:
What's your typical smartphone usage ? To watch a lighted display without doing nothing ? I don't think so ...
I can use my iPhone, and I'm actually using it that way three times a week, for gps tracking while performing my running. Music is playing in background, running data are recorded, track is recorded, a lot of useful informations are given to me through the earphones (pace, heart rate, distance, time ....) .... and the screen is switched off. Is it an active usage ? It is !
CPU is working, data are exchanged, gps is activated ... a lot of things are running at full throttle but the screen is turned off.
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Let me put it this way there is 2 iPhones phone A and phone B

Phone A has battery stats of 5h usage 2 days standby 0% battery
Phone B has battery stats of 5h usage 1 day standby 0% battery

on the surface you'd think phone A has outstanding battery life but what the usage statistic does not tell you is that phone A has been sat idle for 2 days and has a screen on time of 10 mins and the usage is taken up with background tasks but phone B has a screen on time of 4 hours with the user browsing the web and watching video... you tell me which has the better battery life.. right you can't.

Screen on time is a lot more accurate way of comparing battery life of phones as phones get most of there productive usage with the screen on and tasks that are run with the screen off generally have very little power draw with the exception being GPS but the average use does not use GPS with the the screen off over an extended length of time and is usually allowed for when comparing statistics. And the fact that the screen on any modern phone usually uses the most power out of any component.

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Max(IT) said:
I'm not making any assumption: our company's phone is Note 3 and I used it for several months before swapping it with a Lumia 925.
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You are the exception then as everywhere I've seen people usually get 2 days from average usage.
 
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I'm not an exception and I yet have to see a smartphone lasts for two days IN REAL WORLD (I mean out of a forum where everyone just try hard to justify his purchase) with a real usage ...
The Note 3 has a bigger battery and it could last a couple of hours more than an iPhone, but that doesn't mean you could really start a new day without recharging it overnight.
At the end of the day you can end up with 10% remaining on your iPhone and 20% left on your Note. What's the difference ? Nothing because you will recharge both before the new day will start.

I'm not going to continue the debate about the screen on/off: it's quite clear to me that you are just trying to justify that because android is your choice and incidentally android shows that statistic. In MY experience, since I don't listen much music on the phone, usage is the best way to analyze the battery life of my smartphone, because I'm not in the mood of buy a 800€ smartphone and let it idle all day long ....
 
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Max(IT) said:
I'm not an exception and I yet have to see a smartphone lasts for two days IN REAL WORLD (I mean out of a forum where everyone just try hard to justify his purchase) with a real usage ...
The Note 3 has a bigger battery and it could last a couple of hours more than an iPhone, but that doesn't mean you could really start a new day without recharging it overnight.
At the end of the day you can end up with 10% remaining on your iPhone and 20% left on your Note. What's the difference ? Nothing because you will recharge both before the new day will start.

I'm not going to continue the debate about the screen on/off: it's quite clear to me that you are just trying to justify that because android is your choice and incidentally android shows that statistic. In MY experience, since I don't listen much music on the phone, usage is the best way to analyze the battery life of my smartphone, because I'm not in the mood of buy a 800€ smartphone and let it idle all day long ....
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I have no need to justify anything as Android has both statistics. Just look in the battery life thread and you will see people posting iPhone statistics from phones that have sat idle for the vast majority of time. But whatever discussion over.
 
IFRIT said:
I have no need to justify anything as Android has both statistics. Just look in the battery life thread and you will see people posting iPhone statistics from phones that have sat idle for the vast majority of time. But whatever discussion over.
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I perfectly know that. There is people claiming 11-12 hrs of usage out of an iPhone 5s and that is what you are speaking about.
But I'm referring to people, like me, that really use his smartphone, and in that case the statistic, far from being perfect, is reliable.
 
If you prefer android go with that. As others stated, we cannot motivate you, you need to choose the phone that best fits your needs.
 
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