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Why cannot an Authorized Mac Dealer install IE on OS 10.4.11 properly?

You can install multiple versions of OS X on a hard drive but it would need to be partitioned. To partition it you have to erase what's currently on it. You said that you didn't get a copy of the Tiger OS discs, so you cannot afford to erase your hard drive without losing everything.

As far as you're date and time it's possible that that PRAM battery was dead before you took it in and you just didn't know it. Here's why if you go to Apple menu, scroll down to System Preferences..., select it. In System Preferences, under the System section, click Date & Time. Under the Date & Time tab put a check in front of Set date & time automatically. Close System Preferences. Whenever the Mac has been unplugged and you plug it back in and boot it up it will set the Date & Time automatically and you shouldn't have that problem anymore.

I have Internet Explorer 5.2.3 on my iMac running OS X 10.4.11 and it seems to work, although I haven't used it in years. What version of IE is installed on your Mac?
 
You need to understand that IE for Windows is NOT the same as IE for Mac. They are dramatically different and they NEVER shared anything in common even when it was still being made, they were similar in name only and were never at any point interchangeable. Your work requires IE for Windows, they do not mean IE for Mac since that is a dead browser and is nothing at all like a modern browser. I cant stress how different they are, you are wasting your time using it/trying to get it to work, they are incompatible with each other and share nothing in common whatsoever. The closest thing to IE for Windows on a Mac would be FireFox, IE5 for Mac would be about the furthest thing from IE8 for Windows.

Many times crappy web systems that companies get suckered into using say they "require" IE when they work fine in other browsers. If there is infact an IE specific line of code that wont work in other browsers I can guarantee you that it wont work in IE for Mac either, it will only work in IE for Windows.

With the amount of money youre spending trying to repair that old computer why not just get a new/used one? An old Intel Mac Mini would be less than $500 and it has the ability to run Windows. Youre taking an unnecessary risk using that old computer for your job and are throwing money down the drain in repairs.
 
MacUser1995 said:
the hard drive did not just crash.. the puter started but all I could see was a grey screen w/apple on it.. it never brought up the hard drive after a time or two.
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I'm sorry, but that is also a sign of a dead PRAM battery ... at times with a dead PRAM battery some machines will simply fail to boot.

Funny thing is, after you do some work on them they will boot.

So, there is a chance that the hard drive was fine and the battery was the root cause of the problem.

Everything after that simply created new ones. When a simple $20 fix may have solved the boot issue.

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So blaming the tech for the dead battery is pointless, when they simply may have overcharged you because they missed the simple fix.

Also happens a lot when you get the oil changed and they knock a vacuum line off, and the next repair after that is $500 when it should have been zero to fix the poorly running car.
 
Dear OP

Don't rely on these Mac guys in town. As a matter of fact, my friend in Asheville went that that SAME SHOP you mentioned and I told her not to do any work with them until they emailed me and explained to me what they were going to do and what their rates were for.

I will tell you about nine months ago I saw googled Craigslist in Asheville for a Mac person for my friend. I found what SEEMED to be a good guy who would install Tiger on her old iMac G3 for a reasonable sum, like 35 dollars.

I'll try to dig up his contact info for you.

In the meantime, learn the ins and outs of your machine. I think you can install more ram in it, too. Get the fastest hard drive and most ram (price it online, on ebay, on Craigslist etc before you shell out any cash.)

Your iMac G4 should run fine with a new pram battery, new hd and more ram and Tiger. In fact, I don't see why you can't have Leopard on it.

As for IE, i think the reason it still plays on OS9 and Jaguar in a limited way is it is a built in browser on those 1999-2001 OS's, but the flash problem on more modern online videos and stuff makes it unusable. In fact, this is why I need my friend in Asheville to upgrade. Try explaining to a complete Mac dumbie (but lovely friend) about this IE problem. She constantly wants to hang up the phone on me when I start talking macs. Like you she just wants to get the computer modern and working.

Don't get mad at us here. Do some homework on the innards of your G4 iMac so you understand what you are up against. This is a learning process... when I got here to MR in 2004 I knew NOTHING and I owe my Mac education to this board. Thanks MR! Google this site, especially some old posts on how to dismantle and upgrade your machine. Then you will not be in danger of getting ripped off. It will work out but I am sad you lost your data, bummer. But that is what Leopard is for -- Time Machine.
 
Can you afford a new computer? You could get a cheap netbook to run IE and leave 10.4 on the Mac. That way you also have something portable.

If you were interested, somebody here might be able to suggest something???
 
The Open Poster said he needed it for his WORK and that the pages he uses are not compatible. I work in a similar management consulting firm and a lot of our software; SAP, Oracle and Microsoft products were designed for IE a few years ago, since then the software apps have been tweaked on IE but not upgraded. This is not about choice but about what works as an end user.

To the OP, I use VMware with windows on it, or you could dual boot with Windows.
 
If I were the OP, I would just buy a new computer. A cheap PC.
 
I just looked up "Internet Explorer" on Urban Dictionary and it told me that it was a tool for downloading Firefox, a internet browser... You do know Safari does that just fine, right? ;)
 
OP I think we established that yes you did deal with a rogue trader (I would certainly write to Apple because if it was a flat PRAM battery, it was the simplest possible fix).

Instead I suspect they have put your computer under further risk.

iMac G4s are unique for the more modern Mac desktops, in that if you open the case (required to replace the hard drive), you need to use some thermal paste as there is a join in the cooling system. This could explain some of the unresponsiveness since you got your computer back as the cooling system on your mac may not be working properly.

I have found some people's answers on here to the OP rude and unnecessary. Not everyone is completely computer savvy. Not everyone upgrades regularly. Why not? because what they have works for them. Yes it causes issues when the jump to either a newer OS or newer software is made, but these are entirely the reasons this person needs our help.
 
Sell Or Trade Your Mac For A Pc!!!

Sell or trade your Mac for a PC and your problems will be solved.

What do you need a Mac for? This seems to be the root of your problems.

With your Mac, you can't do your job because there is no compatible Internet Explorer due to the discontinuation of the browser by Microsoft over a half decade ago, you can't find reliable tech support that suits your needs because you are running what most of the Mac community considers to be ancient technology, and you are getting frustrated enough to sign up on a Mac forum and blame everyone (forum users, employer, tech support, economy, and even your own city) for all of your problems.

In my opinion, the solution is really simple. GET A PC!

Unless, you can really convince me why you NEED a Mac.
 
another thing the puter is doing, AFTER they fixed it, is

Hulu.tv is as slow as molasses.

It is like watching slow motion movies! the sound does not keep up with the TV screen.

None of this was happening with my old hard drive.

My TIME & DATE worked perfectly... as did Hulu.. and it was only 10.2.8...

Even when I tried to watch a DVD on my puter AFTEr they fixed it, it was doing this slow motion thing..

what the HELL did they do to my computer?
 
MacUser1995 said:
Hulu.tv is as slow as molasses.

It is like watching slow motion movies! the sound does not keep up with the TV screen.

None of this was happening with my old hard drive.

My TIME & DATE worked perfectly... as did Hulu.. and it was only 10.2.8...

Even when I tried to watch a DVD on my puter AFTEr they fixed it, it was doing this slow motion thing..

what the HELL did they do to my computer?
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This could partly be because you have a old computer and are running a new OS.
 
California said:
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As for IE, i think the reason it still plays on OS9 and Jaguar in a limited way is it is a built in browser on those 1999-2001 OS's, but the flash problem on more modern online videos and stuff makes it unusable. ...
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Nonsense. Internet Explorer is a simple TCP/IP application. In its day, it was no more built-in than any other web browser. Apple's agreement with Microsoft mandated that Internet Explorer was set as the web browser within Internet Preferences on all shipping Macs. Within 5 seconds, the user was free to change this setting to Netscape Communicator or any other browser of the user's choosing. Nothing tied IE to the OS.

Internet Explorer 5.1.7 was the last version for MacOS 9 and IE 5.2.3 was the last version for MacOS X. Both versions quickly lost compatibility with darned near everything.
 
If your just ranting to get people not to go to the store near you and don't plan on fixing this, then I think this thread doesn't have much of a point now. If you do plan on fixing this, then I suggest you just get a Mac Mini.

If you already spent $200, then you could just sell that laptop for at least $300-$400.That way you already have the cost for half of it.
 
Neotyguy40 said:
If your just ranting to get people not to go to the store near you and don't plan on fixing this, then I think this thread doesn't have much of a point now. If you do plan on fixing this, then I suggest you just get a Mac Mini.

If you already spent $200, then you could just sell that laptop for at least $300-$400.That way you already have the cost for half of it.
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It's an iMac G4... Don't think they are worth $150 now to be fair.
 
Neotyguy40 said:
Macs retain their value much better then PCs, you would be surprised if I told you my iBook G4 sold for $450 4 months ago.
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I understand that Macs retain their value much better than PCs, however I would maintain that an iMac G4 would get far less than an iBook G4. Notebooks traditionally retain more value than desktop systems. Also I don't know the age of your iBook G4, but they were available new from October '03 up till May '06 whereas the iMac G4 was replaced by the iMac G5 in August '04, so there is a high likelihood that your iBook is newer than the OP's iMac.

Remember there was another generation of PowerPC chips in the desktop, whereas the G4 was the final generation in the notebooks.

I got my Quicksilver Power Mac G4 from eBay for less than $100 with an Apple Studio display, Pro keyboard and Optical Mouse.

So yes I have an idea of what used Macs go for.
 
Palmharbor, thanks for the good tips

Only thing is I DO NOT have an APPLE keyboard anymore, I have a microsoft keyboard.. how wud I do that with MS keyboard, not apple one please?

palmharbor said:
Go to:

http://mac.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/AppleJack.shtml

download the free applejack utility
Instal it.
Restart holding down S and Command aka apple key.
after it stops typing
simple write:

applejack AUTO restart

make sure you keep spaces
Then go get a cup of coffee
come back in 5 minutes and it will be fixed.
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Neotyguy40 said:
Macs retain their value much better then PCs, you would be surprised if I told you my iBook G4 sold for $450 4 months ago.
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wow.. that is pretty neat that your Imac would still be worth something.

It is a good machine.. I stopped in Best Buy and they have a Mac Tech guy, I know he knows Macs. I've spoken to him before and he seems a cool guy.
They said I cud bring my machine in tomorrow, and they'd take a look at it for free and let me know if he's (the Mac dealers that charged me almost $200 for fixing it) screwed it up or not.

What gets me, is if it IS the PRAM, now I've lost my ENTIRE contents of hard drive! That is what destroys me the worst.. ALl my photos, my files, my Itunes library....

I cannot AFFORD a new computer or I would of BOUGHT one! :mad:

But I still wanted to get the stuff off the old hard drive, and since I couldn't get Apple tech guy to pull that stuff up- I'm outta da loop when it comes to getting my files put on the new hard drive.

I'm so pissed off, to think that ALL he needed to do was install a new PRAM.. and that would of saved the old hard drive, which was running fine before all this.

Actually I got the computer to boot up and all my files appeared about 3 times before it finally did nothing and wouldn't boot up at all!
I so wished I had contacted something like CARBONLITE and gotten my files put away SOMEWHERE!
 
MacUser1995 said:
I stopped in Best Buy and they have a Mac Tech guy, I know he knows Macs. I've spoken to him before and he seems a cool guy.
They said I cud bring my machine in tomorrow, and they'd take a look at it for free and let me know if he's (the Mac dealers that charged me almost $200 for fixing it) screwed it up or not.
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How about this place Charlotte Street Computers, according to Apple's Support site they're a Certified Apple Specialist. Might be worth a try. I'd take it to an Apple Specialist before I'd take it to Best Buy.
 
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