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Why can't the next iPhone have a wider display?

JS82712 said:
I never said people do; I said there are people who prefer a longer as opposed to a wider screen.
It looks like you have some trouble with your reading comprehension? :confused: or you re just a trolling fandroid. :rolleyes:
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nope. I own an iPhone 4. Just perplexed as too why Apple refuses to increase size in both directions rather than just elongate the 4S.
 
Check this out

This is pretty much what I have in mind for a wider longer iPhone.


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"Why can't the next iPhone have a wider display?"

Because numerous people on this forum have complained that if the iPhone was any wider, then it wouldn't be able to fit in their pocket.

Not joking. People have actually said that.
 
skidbubble said:
"Why can't the next iPhone have a wider display?"

Because numerous people on this forum have complained that if the iPhone was any wider, then it wouldn't be able to fit in their pocket.

Not joking. People have actually said that.
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you do realize there are many girls who struggle to hold a phone that's bigger than 4"?
Stop acting like a fool claiming that a big screen is ALWAYS better
 
Alx9876 said:
This is pretty much what I have in mind for a wider longer iPhone.


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It looks good but in the real world I don't think that an edge to edge display is really doable unless you want the phone to be extra thick.
The volume buttons and mute switch take up room inside the phone and would have to be well behind the LCD.
Not to mention the mounting connections for the front and back glass.
 
JS82712 said:
you do realize there are many girls who struggle to hold a phone that's bigger than 4"?
Stop acting like a fool claiming that a big screen is ALWAYS better
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and there are many that use the Galaxy S3 without a problem.
 
JS82712 said:
you do realize there are many girls who struggle to hold a phone that's bigger than 4"?
Stop acting like a fool claiming that a big screen is ALWAYS better
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Yes, there may be girls who struggle but the iPhone is not marketed or targeted specifically for girls.

And you don't ave to resort to childish name calling, insults, and insulting pictures in your rebuttals. When doing so, you are taken less seriously.
 
skidbubble said:
Yes, there may be girls who struggle but the iPhone is not marketed or targeted specifically for girls.

And you don't ave to resort to childish name calling, insults, and insulting pictures in your rebuttals. When doing so, you are taken less seriously.
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indeed it's not specifically for girls, but apple is known for making their products inclusive (as seen in their strong focus in accessibility in their products); and turning the iPhone, the only phone apple makes, into a 4.5"+ phone will certainly piss many people off. (and yes, there are more females on this planet just so you know.) ;)
 
JS82712 said:
indeed it's not specifically for girls, but apple is known for making their products inclusive (as seen in their strong focus in accessibility in their products); and turning the iPhone, the only phone apple makes, into a 4.5"+ phone will certainly piss many people off. (and yes, there are more females on this planet just so you know.) ;)
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and 99% of them don't care as long as it's an Apple product and makes them look cool.
 
I don't know about the argument for keeping it small so you can do everything one handed. I see so many people using their iphones two handed regardless.
 
The way I see it is that they're going to make a new resolution anyways, which developers will have to cater to. You might as well go with anything you want and just display apps like on the iPad. They didn't care about adding a new resolution when they introduced the iPad (and the new one) and with the iPhone and iOS as a whole being such a gold mine, they'll have developers racing to build apps for it. I think something like a 4.5" 720p display (326 ppi) would be perfect for me, but obviously something a bit smaller (like 4.3") at a nonstandard resolution would be fine. Also hoping they keep the "glass sandwich" design.
 
nerdpov said:
This is actually very interesting. I think the 3:2 form factor looks a lot nice but indeed the 16:9 displays more information.
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Wrong. And his larger 3:2 screen mockup appears to use the same resolution as actual iPhones.
Read my post on page 1.

lazard said:
yeah, because adding half and inch to the width of the iphone is suddenly going to make it not fit in your pocket.
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actually, a 4" 3:2 screen would be only 1/4 of an inch wider (and for example, the 3GS is about 1/4 of an inch wider than the 4/4S)

Sedrick said:
They aren't making it wider because they'll lose 'retina'.
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Not necessarily. It's only true if they keep the same resolution 960x640 on larger screen, 4" for example.
I showed on page 1 another solution.

bettaboy123 said:
The way I see it is that they're going to make a new resolution anyways, which developers will have to cater to. You might as well go with anything you want and just display apps like on the iPad. They didn't care about adding a new resolution when they introduced the iPad (and the new one) and with the iPhone and iOS as a whole being such a gold mine, they'll have developers racing to build apps for it. I think something like a 4.5" 720p display (326 ppi) would be perfect for me, but obviously something a bit smaller (like 4.3") at a nonstandard resolution would be fine. Also hoping they keep the "glass sandwich" design.
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Yes, ok, if the size of the screen changes, they'll probably have to change the resolution (and obviously if the screen ratio changes).
But your comparison with the iPad transitional use of iPhone apps doesn't work: there were no iPad before the iPad (eh!).
I doubt Apple wants to add fragmentation to its pocket devices: beside the new resolution, the iPhone 4/4S resolution will have to be supported by dev for few more years, as a lot of them are already in customers hands and Apple will still sell a bunch of them next year(s), and few more iOS iterations will support these devices, i.e. new apps will have to work with both resolutions.
How iOS should handle 2 resolutions (and if 16:9, also 2 aspect ratio) is the big deal of the story. Only talking about diagonal size increase is pointless if not linked with aspect ratio/resolution and the way software will deal with previous apps on the new hardware, and the way apps could support transitionally 2 resolutions.
 
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^ when you are talking about 2 inches......that is a much bigger difference than it sounds.
 
Anyone with common sense knows a taller/longer iPhone is plain stupid. You've got to widen it at least.
 
So people's issue with the current width of the iphone screen and the speculated taller but not wider iphone screen, is that it's not good at displaying websites designed for desktop monitors? Doesn't this sound ridiculous to anyone else?

Adding .3 inches to the width will not help you see a website designed to be viewed on a desktop PC.

However, making a phone taller will help you see more on apps and websites designed to be viewed on an iphone.
 
I can't believe how some of you don't see the benefit of having a wider screen.

The keyboard in portrait mode as it currently stands, is atrociously bad for anyone who isn't hobbit size. The keyboard in landscape mode displays too little content, and thus the only way to fix the issue is make the screen wider.

There is absolutely no way anyone would have "trouble holding the phone if it were wider" unless you're 4'11" with undersized hands (within the context of 4" phones). It's just a bad argument.

A long screen not only barely increases functionality, but it doesn't fix the biggest problem with the iphone: the keyboard, which is far greater of an issue than having either another row of icons or slightly more of a webpage in lanscape being displayed.
 
I would like to see it go to the same aspect ratio at the iPad. That way the iPad, Iphone and the iPad mini could all use the same apps.
 
supham said:
I would like to see it go to the same aspect ratio at the iPad. That way the iPad, Iphone and the iPad mini could all use the same apps.
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Trolling, right? :)

oneMadRssn said:
So people's issue with the current width of the iphone screen and the speculated taller but not wider iphone screen, is that it's not good at displaying websites designed for desktop monitors? Doesn't this sound ridiculous to anyone else?

Adding .3 inches to the width will not help you see a website designed to be viewed on a desktop PC.

However, making a phone taller will help you see more on apps and websites designed to be viewed on an iphone.
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The 1136x640 16:9 rumored 4" screen is only .54 inch taller than the original screen :)
A growth on both width and height to 4" staying at 3:2 would provide a larger screen surface than the 16:9.

And again, it then all depends on resolution/pixel density and how it is used by the OS/apps to display informations.

I provided an example on page 1 that shows a 4" 16:9 doesn't compare so well to a 4" 3:2 if it's not simply used as an expansion of the actual resolution.
 
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chleuasme said:
The 1136x640 16:9 rumored 4" screen is only .54 inch taller than the original screen :)
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You say this like it's insignificant. ~.5" is an extra row of icons, and 3-5 extra lines of text (depending on font size)

chleuasme said:
A growth on both width and height to 4" staying at 3:2 would provide a larger screen surface than the 16:9.
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Surface area is an interesting metric. Having a totally square 1:1 screen at 4" would be even more screen surface. I am not sure how this would work with screen, but a circle is the most "efficient" two-dimensional geometric shape for having the most surface area for the least amount of units (pixels in this case). Obviously though a circular screen isn't practical, and neither is a square screen.

My point is: I don't think screen surface area is the wrong metric to look to when comparing same-sized screens.

chleuasme said:
And again, it then all depends on resolution/pixel density and how it is used by the OS/apps to display informations.
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Agreed. This applies to all screens.

chleuasme said:
I provided an example on page 1 that shows a 4" 16:9 doesn't compare so well to a 4" 3:2 if it's not simply used as an expansion of the actual resolution.
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I like that picture. After looking at it, I was sold on the 16:9 screen. I might play around with it in photoshop to see how many words of the same font I can fit into each screen.

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hypnoz said:
A long screen not only barely increases functionality, but it doesn't fix the biggest problem with the iphone: the keyboard, which is far greater of an issue than having either another row of icons or slightly more of a webpage in lanscape being displayed.
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Having used many many phones, I can confidently say: bigger screen ≠ better keyboard.

Also, the iPhone's keyboard is not anywhere near the top of problems with the phone.
 
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