Why did apple not copy right this?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by ste1164, Jan 3, 2010.

  1. ste1164 macrumors 6502a

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    I don't know if apple were the first to release the multi touch system like pinch and zoom. But IF they were shouldn't apple have copyrighted the feature. It would help a bit with phone sales surely because they could have the best mobile web browsing experience. What are your thoughts on this.
     
  2. draperm25 macrumors regular

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    Im sure they did, because when steve announced the iphone in 2007 he said that they had patented it and everything that goes with it?
     
  3. fishmoose macrumors 68000

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    I'm pretty sure they have patents on multitouch, as for individual gestures I'm not a lawyer but I would think that's hard to patent.
     
  4. Maclver macrumors 68020

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    Please google before posting... it will save you time

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10150436-37.html
     
  5. The Phazer macrumors 68030

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    Because you can't copyright a feature or an idea.

    You mean a patent, not copyright.

    And Apple already have a number of patents around multi-touch - pretty much any they had any plausible chance of being granted as other people hadn't already generified those concepts.

    Phazer
     
  6. ste1164 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I thought apple patented multi touch. I wasn't sure because other phones use multi touch like the hero and pre. I guess the patent covers other areas.
     
  7. Maclver macrumors 68020

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    I have a feeling the Palm and HTC have a different way of doing multi touch than the iPhone.. Kind of like the Blackberry Storm 2's "multi touch"
     
  8. ste1164 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Oh thank you for that information I didn't think about that that's cleared it up.
     
  9. ruinfx macrumors 6502a

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    this thread is full of so much misinformation it makes my head hurt
     
  10. ethical macrumors 68000

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    Care to correct everyone then Guru?
     
  11. Maclver macrumors 68020

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    Guru is reserved for Microsoft Stores so lets stick with Genius ;)
     
  12. ruinfx macrumors 6502a

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    i am not going to waste my time, but feel free to use the search button (one such example http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=814175). id say this question gets asked once a month around here.
     
  13. greygray macrumors 68000

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    Nice find. But others are using it. . . sad . . so much for innovation . . . :rolleyes:
     
  14. gnasher729 macrumors P6

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    "Pinch" and "Zoom" are not things that can be protected by copyright. Copyright can be and is used to protect the actual code implementing these features; nobody in the world can use that code (without Apple's permission). Anyone is free to create their own implementation.

    Apple could and probably has got patents for these features. This would prevent others from implementing the same thing. And here your optimism how positive this would be for Apple hits a brick wall:

    Apple is not the only one with patents. Other companies have patents as well. And these patents (including the ones by Apple) or usually written in such a way that no developer can know that he or she is infringing on the patent. And the current state is that development of anything new is held up considerably by everyone having to work around everyone else's patents. Like Apple had to pay about $100 million for the menu system on the iPod.

    Now if your competitors have patents, that is bad enough. But many patents are owned by companies whose only purpose is to blackmail successful companies. With the amount of patents granted, it is absolutely impossible to produce anything without infringing any patent and falling prey to a blackmailer.
     
  15. John T macrumors 68020

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    Absolutely! :)

    All companies protect their products by Patents, Copyrights or by Registering their Trademarks. If an other Company wishes to use a product so protected, there is nothing to stop it - providing it has agreed or signed the relevant licence to use and acknowledged it's use in their literature etc. Look at the multitude of legal acknowledgements by Apple for components used in the iPhone.

    It's when a manufacturer uses a "protected" product without the owners permission, the trouble starts!
     
  16. kdarling macrumors demi-god

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    Apple does not have a patent on multitouch. Nor the pinch.

    Multitouch dates back to at least 1982. Read more here from one of the more well known researchers in this field.

    Pinch dates back to at least 1988, and was part of Sun's 1993 Starfire film. Read more here from Apple's original UI guru, a rather famous writer and designer.

    The so-called "multitouch patent" that newcomers keep posting, was debunked as such almost immediately. It's just a patent for determining scrolling direction, and the number of fingers isn't important.

    When Jobs bragged about hundreds of patents for the iPhone, he was seemingly including every patent for every chip that the iPhone used from other companies. Just a sales tactic.
     
  17. bozzykid macrumors 68020

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    Technically not true. They have several patents that deal with multitouch. But so do several other companies. Apple certainly wasn't the first to patent anything in the multitouch field.
     
  18. koobcamuk macrumors 68040

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    Yeh because Apple never steals ideas? :confused:
     
  19. sau124 macrumors member

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    I am sure they got some licensing done with Apple..
     

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