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Why did Apple not give 4GB RAM on the 9.7" iPad Pro ?

augustya said:
It has gone into 9 pages with 225 replies and still, counting...that is like my highest amount of replies thread ! lol !

Makes me feel proud !
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Proud of what, you nutcase?

Most of this thread has been both sides basically bitching.

The reason why Apple didn't put 4gb ram is because they didn't feel compelled to do better...that's it. No dark conspiracy, or some deep strategy on Apple's part.
 
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augustya said:
Proud that bozo's like you despite hating this thread still come here and vent out their frustration !
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I'm proud too but "bozos" should not have an apostrophe unless it's a possessive.

[Ex. "Who ate Bozo's lunch?"; "There were five bozos in there!"]
 
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augustya said:
Proud that bozo's like you despite hating this thread still come here and vent out their frustration !
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Hate to disappoint, but the extent of my 'venting' was a simple one-liner matter-of-fact statement that Apple didn't have to.

Everything else was about other topics...not yours.
 
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I think the general disappointment is that we want these devices to be future-proofed. My iPad Mini 2 feels very slow right now and it's only 2.5 years old. And I'm hearing that the RAM is the biggest bottleneck.
 
rneglia said:
I think the general disappointment is that we want these devices to be future-proofed. My iPad Mini 2 feels very slow right now and it's only 2.5 years old. And I'm hearing that the RAM is the biggest bottleneck.
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No, I think it's the A7 inside. It's getting long on the tooth there...
 
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Idea: perhaps Macrumors could have a regularly updated section/page where one can find what is the latest version of iOS/OS X that does not slow a particular machine. Something like: "iPhone 5: iOS 8 – normal, iOS 9 – 50% slower, do not update". I made a mistake of updating the system on iPhone 5. Big mistake. Huge.
 
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Rafterman said:
Yep, just making icons bigger and farther spaced apart isn't going to cut it anymore, especially if Apple wants people to replace their low end laptops with iPads.
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am i the only one that truly doesn't care what the home screens look like? in all honesty i think every android/pc home screen looks like blocky garbage. Not to mention that the widgets end up making things laggy. Maybe apple knows this and wants to avoid being lumped in with the laggy companies. They are doing you a favor stop complaining.
 
Fthree said:
They are doing you a favor stop complaining.
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Giving people a choice would be doing a favor.

When I had my iPad mini on iOS 7 and it was jailbroken there were a few good widgets and it didn't affect speed or functionality in any noticeable way.
 
I am sure this was debated at Apple, just like every decision they make. There's a logical and practical reason why there is not 4gb's of memory, could be pricing issues and having to differentiate costs. I could not imagine some engineer and Apple that was not reluctant to adding 4gb's of memory instead of 2gb's. Everytime I think of this, Apple has a logical reason. I am sure....
 
I don't understand why people say RAM is the biggest bottle neck. Compare iPad 3,4 and the original Air. They all have 1 Gb RAM and I'm telling you there are drastic differences between their performances now. My iPad 3 is on 9.2.1 now and gosh, even googling on safari lags so badly, and there's only one tab open.
 
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freddisier said:
I don't understand why people say RAM is the biggest bottle neck. Compare iPad 3,4 and the original Air. They all have 1 Gb RAM and I'm telling you there are drastic differences between their performances now. My iPad 3 is on 9.2.1 now and gosh, even googling on safari lags so badly, and there's only one tab open.
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This is true. I've also got an iPad 3, 4 and Air and the Air is the fastest among them. The Air does refresh tabs more often than the iPad 4 but it's significantly faster when rendering graphic and JavaScript heavy webpages.

The iPad 3? Not even close (although it's a lot more tolerable on iOS 9.3 than iOS 8).
 
ZBoater said:
No, I think it's the A7 inside. It's getting long on the tooth there...
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The A7 is still fine - its almost on par with the A8, which is only generation behind the A9. Its definitely the lack of ram combined with the GPU not having the insane horsepower that the A9 has to cope with Metal.
 
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Fthree said:
am i the only one that truly doesn't care what the home screens look like? in all honesty i think every android/pc home screen looks like blocky garbage. Not to mention that the widgets end up making things laggy. Maybe apple knows this and wants to avoid being lumped in with the laggy companies. They are doing you a favor stop complaining.
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I do not agree with anything you said here. You can make android or pc home screens look much better than iOS home screens because they allow customizations. There are nice widgets and not so nice widgets. All iOS gives you are icons for your home screen which isn't so fun TO look at.........Also on faster tablets such as the Galaxy Tab S2, you do not see any lag. That device lags as much as my iPad Pro which is rarely although I have seen lag on both devices....
 
Fthree said:
in all honesty i think every android/pc home screen looks like blocky garbage.
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Yeah, I hate my home screen because it's just too useful.

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And how disgusting is that? You can customise icons and place them wherever you like on the screen! Terrible, I tell you. I suffer every day.

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Not to mention that the widgets end up making things laggy.
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It's time for you to try an Android phone made after 2013.[/QUOTE]
 
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Fthree said:
Not to mention that the widgets end up making things laggy. Maybe apple knows this and wants to avoid being lumped in with the laggy companies
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They seem to be great at doing that without widgets, so may as well not worry about that anymore!
 
FairyCatInPink said:
Because it's not necessary for 9.7" size of iPad Pro....
9.7" is not quite big enough to "work" on complicated apps, and also split screen feature doesn't looks any useful due to both splitted screens are simply too small to comfortably work on, anyway 9.7" doesn't need to have 4GB ram.
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So the iPhone 6s and + shouldn't had got 2GB of RAM
 
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freddisier said:
I don't understand why people say RAM is the biggest bottle neck. Compare iPad 3,4 and the original Air. They all have 1 Gb RAM and I'm telling you there are drastic differences between their performances now. My iPad 3 is on 9.2.1 now and gosh, even googling on safari lags so badly, and there's only one tab open.
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they are applying full blown tower or laptop ideology to mobile devices. Where tbh I don't see it fitting. When I video edit on my MBP It can be 2 clips in pro res (one going picture in picture) with a disconnected audio channel to sync in. So..looking at 100gb+ of files easy to work with. yes I like 16gb of ram. I also like a nice intel processor and active cooling to not see performance drops from thermal cutoffs. Which is what ARM passive cooling does. It thermal cutoffs so you can have the ram...its still the processor saying I am hot so let me run a bit slower here for a few seconds.


can also be case of apps they use. Not all developers are created equal. Some can rely on ye old well who doesn't have X gb of RAM these days. So they cut corners. Sloppy memory handling, not efficient code that uses up more memory than it needs to, etc.
 
rneglia said:
I think the general disappointment is that we want these devices to be future-proofed. My iPad Mini 2 feels very slow right now and it's only 2.5 years old. And I'm hearing that the RAM is the biggest bottleneck.
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RAM is the ultimate bottleneck, IMO. I own an Air 1 and while it still works OK it has been somewhat RAM-starved since day 1. Now, the Air 2 took care of this which was great. But, thats what the issue is that people have with the 9.7" pro compared to the Air 2: the ONE big upgrade that many folks wanted was a RAM bump and they didnt get it. They also got crappy USB 2.0 support.

So, the argument is that unless you must have pencil support or a camera upgrade(sorry but camera use on tablets is such a tiny amount of the user base) its hard to find a lot of tangible upgrades between the Air 2 and the Pro. The true-tone screen and reflectivity improvements are dubious at best. The processor upgrade while "cool" wont mean much in day to day use for most. proceesing power has hardly ever been a real problem for iPads. 4 speakers? Yeah, great... but... worth the fairly large price difference between a refurbed(or new) Air 2? Not neccessarily.
 
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