Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Why did Apple remove design from iOS 7?
- Thread starter darkgoob
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
- Status
And even if it's not for most, does that in any way relate to it being better or using a good design (aside from it simply being new)?
Ok, apparently you understanding some of the legitimate criticisms is a no win scenario. You will continue to troll your opinions as facts like everyone is wrong. Let the big people discuss the facts and the things that Apple can do better.
They are clearly reading and listening. Plenty of people and professionals completely ripped Apple apart for using Helvetica Neue ultra light and guess what?????? Beta 3 switched over to Regular. Ultra light may have looked very nice but its simply not as useable for a general audience for typical reading. This is a huge undertaking for Apple and they are VERY VERY much reading things and listening to input from actual developers. That has been my point all along.
Installed on iPad mini yesterday.. thin text was a shock on a non-retina screen, switched to bold but then it didn't look right in messages etc. Have reverted back to skinny text and am dealing with it. The mini needs a retina screen more than ever.
4 things that bug me:
Yellow controls in notes.. what are these designers thinking?
5 Finger gesture to zoom back to home screen, do it slowly - the new animation as the apps fly in, icons are totally pixelated.. they look terrible, especially Settings.. Vector icons would be the way to go, not sure how possible that would be. I can't help but feel this method of zoom / animation is a shelved idea dragged out for 7. I like zooming in and out of apps but this animation / transition needs to be polished..
App store / iTunes - the top menu / tabs 'Games', 'Education' etc. look bad with the thin blue outline.. it may look better on retina, but on the mini - it feels cheap and nasty. Also the blue is darker on the app store compared to iTunes, why not make them the same? Consistency!
Folders should have 12 icons.
Fingers crossed for future betas..
4 things that bug me:
Yellow controls in notes.. what are these designers thinking?
5 Finger gesture to zoom back to home screen, do it slowly - the new animation as the apps fly in, icons are totally pixelated.. they look terrible, especially Settings.. Vector icons would be the way to go, not sure how possible that would be. I can't help but feel this method of zoom / animation is a shelved idea dragged out for 7. I like zooming in and out of apps but this animation / transition needs to be polished..
App store / iTunes - the top menu / tabs 'Games', 'Education' etc. look bad with the thin blue outline.. it may look better on retina, but on the mini - it feels cheap and nasty. Also the blue is darker on the app store compared to iTunes, why not make them the same? Consistency!
Folders should have 12 icons.
Fingers crossed for future betas..
Last edited:
Yes sure it is. So which iPhone 5s will you be buying and complaining about? My opinions are not facts and neither are yours. Mine are just backed up by the richest company on earth.....and probably Mars.
The first iPhone was a iPod with a cellphone in it and would never catch on, the second was the same thing, the third was a slight improvement and android was better, the next had a bad antenna and was going to bankrupt apple, the next was the same outdated and wouldn't sell, the next looked too long and had terrible quality, the next has a terrible os that is so hard to see and use. Give it up people it's old and tired. This the next iPhone will break records with and because of the os.
iOS 7 is not enjoyable on my iPad mini so I uninstalled it and went back to iOS 6 until the kinks are worked out. Yet you people hate and have a hard time using iOS 7 but.....,you still use it even though it's not officially released yet. I just don't get it. I hate avocados so I don't eat them. Makes sense and it's simple, regardless of the nutritional value of an avocado.
Last edited:
One, you can alway choose not to upgrade and your problem is solved.
Now as far as white and other new elements, white is actually the least power demanding to display allowing for longer active screen time. Coming from a hardware design engineer, I thought this was a rather interesting change as the LCD draws less power when showing all white. The opposite is for OLED displays where black is the least demanding on the battery.
Now from a design perspective, the current iOS design overall is looking very tired and rather dated. So I welcome a new UI that while different, remains familiar and more focused on the task at hand.
If you were to start fresh, give a genuine example of how you would change iOS 7 without it looking like current Android 4.2.2 which does a wonderful job giving the user more with less visual overstimulation and common controls.
If you alone have the one all solution for iOS 7 and its design elements, by all means show us the money! If you dislike change, don't update or pick up a new phone.
At the same time you seem to dislike that people complain about something that is essentially pointless to complain about, and yet you spend quite a bit of time complaining about that, which is just as pointless (if not more so). Having your cake and eating it too. ;-)
Not updating the OS means not getting new apps and app updates that take advantage of the new APIs in iOS 7. While I don't know exactly what these new APIs will do, past experience suggests that eventually, there will be enough new apps that are iOS 7 and up only that I'll feel left behind if I don't update.
Also, if I buy new hardware, like the iPhone 5S or the next iPad, they will come with iOS 7.
So yes, staying with iOS 6 is a possible choice, but one with many trade-offs.
As I've said before, I don't think iOS 6 looks tired and dated, so I would have been happy if it got only minor changes. So no, I don't have an example of how I would change iOS, because I see no need to start fresh. Plus, lets not fall into the trap of telling people they can't criticize unless they have solutions. Pointing out problems is the first step in the process -- if you always had to wait until you knew the solution before you criticize, nothing would ever get solved.
Complaining is fine. Just have a legitimate complaint. If you think it's ugly say it's ugly. Don't try to say it hurts usability because your trying to justify your lack of fashion sense.
----------
Don't criticize unless you have a solution.
For the 10th time. Its not just us saying we think something is ugly or not done right. When you have talented iOS designers and devs saying the same things then its obviously an issue for them too. Which is why Apple gives them the betas and asks for their feedback. I have given you specific example after example of what PROFESSIONALS are saying.
As a professional graphic designer I have continually tried to help you understand why these criticisms are out there and real (putting bright yellow on white, thicker typefaces, etc.). Your choice of pure arrogance is yours. You can fault people with baseless arguments but just STOP with the blanket statements.....Or not, just keep on trolling.
The rest of us will push on helping them improve their products.
Complaining about others not complaining "properly", especially on an online forum, is about as legitimate as it gets.
Oh, and as for not criticizing without having a solution first, that's makes as much sense as, well, pretty much nothing. Unless that was meant to be sarcastic in some sense, in which case it lost all of its sarcasm right from the start.
I doubt that was sarcasm, just the typical troll mentality for this topic. Many of us don't know exactly how to fix technical bugs, etc. but we still report them to Apple to let them know.
You never criticize unless you have a solution. I am sorry but thats the rules. If you have no solution then get and the boat and remain quiet or accept being called a whiner.
----------
If anyone is a troll its you people complaining. You act like someone chopped of one of your legs.
With all due respect, you don't make the rules. It is perfectly reasonable to criticize a design you don't like -- especially if you can explain why you don't like it -- without necessarily having a better solution in mind.
Are only superior chefs allowed to criticize a bad meal?
You don't walk into a business, or a meeting, or a family gathering, etc. and complain with out a fix. We are grown ups so no we don't. its not my rule its a time long rule that applies everywhere. So lets grow up and stop crying like where 4 years old.
If a chef criticizes a bad meal you better believe that the chef has a better way of doing it. Im not a brain surgeon so I would never criticize his/her work. Stop coming up with these infantile arguments about you not like the color of icons.
Criticizing the design of a beta OS on a forum dedicated to discussing that OS is not analogous to barging into someone's living room and criticizing their parenting skills.
I assume you meant "we're." Whatever. I haven't seen much crying here, nor do I equate sober, thoughtful criticism of certain UI design elements with having a temper tantrum.
Also, I reject your assertion that only a graphic artist who can design a better icon is qualified to criticize an icon. I don't have to be a graphic artist to know I don't like the new Settings icon. It looks like some sort of meat grinder and I think it's ugly. I've seen other proposed Settings icons that I think look better. That's my opinion, and these are the sort of things we're all here to discuss.
So an ordinary diner, who is not a chef, can't criticize a bad meal?
That is apparent
If most of his/her patients died during relatively low-risk procedures, I think it would be valid to criticize his/her work, even if one is not a brain surgeon.
If you're directing that at me, I don't recall making any infantile arguments about the color of the icons. Indeed, aesthetics is not the proper subject for argument at all. You like the colors or you don't. It is, however, a proper subject for discussion.
Not sure where you don't bring up or discuss something where you don't have a solution first. In real life in the real world it happens all the time and there are no "rules" against it. In fact it's often encouraged--if you see a dangerous hazard on a road somewhere should you keep your mouth shut because you don't have a solution (and certainly the means) to deal with it, or should you report it to the authorities so that there's at least a warning about it and hopefully something that someone can do about it? The answer is more than obvious, and to imply otherwise is either ignorant or purposefully deceitful--in either case it's bad.
If anyone that complains about something that might not be important to someone else is a troll, what exactly does they make someone who complains about the way others complain (which matters to even less people at best)? It's about time to move on already...in fact it's been time to move on pages ago in this thread (the only reason not to is to troll and bait to have others feed the trolls).
Honestly go look up the definition troll since you have problems with facts.
Reporting bugs or constructive issues to Apple does not always require any solution from us, that why the engineers at Apple are there. Though many of us have indeed provided alternate solutions.
You have been tearing apart and trying so desperately to discredit anyones legitimate concerns to the point of ridiculousness. No one is acting a leg has been chopped off...but thats your opinion (so it must be right). You don't make the rules.
- Status