Steve686
macrumors 68040
Isn't it MAXIMUM depth of 1 meter?
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Why didn't apple just use the lightning cable for the watch?
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Isn't it MAXIMUM depth of 1 meter?
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I'm holding you to that. 😉
Did you miss the page or so of posts where we intricately described exactly why it's a minimum and not a maximum? You should read that.
My post describes it quite well.
Yes, if defined as such. Otherwise, it's semantics because you can very well say you can soak it to 1 meter for a maximum of 30 minutes and still be within the IPX7 rating.
No, that would not be within the IPX7 rating. Because the test needs to run for 30 minutes to qualify for the rating, anything lower than 30 minutes immersed, by definition, would not qualify for IPX7. You can say that you can soak it to 1m for a maximum of 30 minutes and the watch won't die, yes, but you can't say that it's within IPX7 at anything lower than 30 minutes. Similarly, you can say you soak it at less than 1m and it won't break, but, by the definition of the test, it wouldn't qualify for IPX7 because it requires the 1m.
Yes, that's as defined per the rating. But still semantics in layman terms. You tell the Genius you swam to a maximum depth of 1 meter and for a maximum of 30 minutes, so it falls within the IPX7 rating and they should honor the water damage warranty.
See, we can argue all day long as it's all semantics.
andrewpturko
macrumors regular
I think it would've been nice if, instead of the magnetic disk wired directly to the cord, a lighting port could be in the magnetic disk. It would be detachable from the disk and universal to all other iOS devices at the same time.
Only thing is, the disk might get lost more easily.
Also, I don't fully understand why Apple's taking magnetic charging out of some products such as the new Macbook, yet still adding it to others. I'm sure a magnetic USB-C cable is possible, but that's really a topic for another thread. 🙂
Only thing is, the disk might get lost more easily.
Also, I don't fully understand why Apple's taking magnetic charging out of some products such as the new Macbook, yet still adding it to others. I'm sure a magnetic USB-C cable is possible, but that's really a topic for another thread. 🙂
cmichaelb
macrumors 68020
danlages65
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Julien
macrumors G4
Maximum the absolute most water pressure/depth a watch can sustain before it fails.
For ease and explanation’s sake lets use ATM rating and say that a hypothetical watch fails at exactly 49M. Therefore 49M is the maximum depth the watch can obtain. This would not meet the very least (minimum) needed requirement of 50M for an ATM5 rating since the watch’s maximum is 49M. However it would easily pass the very least (minimum) needed requirement of 30M for an ATM3 rating.
The watch’s maximum happens before it reaches the required minimum to be certified ATM5. So it can only be certified ATM3.
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Watch it is at least (minimum) stated to meet or pass an IPx7 rating. We have no idea what the Watch’s maximum failure is but we do know it’s guaranteed to be at the very least (minimum) an IPx7 rating. The Watch's maximum may be 10m, 30m or 50m for all we know.
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LOL jus saying man... it was so awesome i have to purchase another set of lightning cables. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
i have about 6 laying around that replaced my 30pin, thanks apple🙄 LOL
dotnet
macrumors 68000
Yes, to both of these points.
Power transmission through air coils is very limited because it requires physically large coils. Remember, there is no permeable core to carry the magnetic flux. It is adequate for relatively low-power applications, like charging tooth brushes or watches, but may bring about big, unwieldy charge pods for things like laptops. In those cases a simple plug is much more preferable.
Fortimir
macrumors 6502a
Never say never. or Every.
http://www.rolex.com/world-of-rolex/exploration-underwater/rolex-deepsea-challenge.html
James Cameron took this Rolex to the bottom of the Marianas Trench and it maintained full integrity. I'd call that 100% bar-none waterproof.
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And the reason for the magnetic disk and not a port is because there is limited space on the watch for such things. Using the wireless charging allows them to use that space for sensors as well.
BvizioN
macrumors 603
No offens but can you imagine if a company like Apple was run by people like you? Who on earth wants holes on a watch?
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dotnet
macrumors 68000
He did maintain full integrity, too. Because neither he nor his watch left the capsule they were in 🙄
Fortimir
macrumors 6502a
No.
And I've seen the video where you can see him checking the one outside the capsule to make sure it is still working. Yes, he wore a Rolex inside the sub, but it was a different model. This one in question (Deepsea Challenge) is an experimental watch created just for this dive. His personal one was a Deepsea Sea-Dweller which is is a production model.
dotnet
macrumors 68000
it's called practicality and ingenuity brah... that does mean just because it's not being used now doesn't mean it can't be done... 🙄
Dub1ous
macrumors regular
Blaine
macrumors 6502a
Not exactly practical to flip open the water-resistant flap in order to plug in the lightning cable and close it when you remove it. Suggesting a worse implementation than the magport isn't ingenuity.
Fortimir
macrumors 6502a
No. Not at all. I said he (yes, movie director James Cameron himself) took the watch *that I linked to* to the bottom of the ocean. Which he did. Literally. To the bottom. Outside the capsule.
I never mentioned the one on his wrist until it was brought up in confusion by someone else. My entire point was there *are* watches that are absolutely 100% waterproof within all human reason.
dotnet
macrumors 68000
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