Why Do Incoming Calls HAVE To Be Obtrusive?!

[sulpfiction]

BTW, smartphone, phone, iPhone... The main function is a phone. Maybe calling is just the most important feature

So not true. These things we carry with us everyday are mobile devices...Not just phones. The phone feature is just one of the many functions of the device. But it doesn't necessarily have to be the "main function" nor the "most important feature" by any means. Maybe the most convenient feature, but not the most important.

I'd be willing to bet that most people use their iPhones for other non-phone functions more then they do the actual phone.

 

[Minhimalism]

If the person calling you is obtrusive and you don't find any bit of enjoyment in the fact that they're calling, then why are they in your contact list? I'm sure you can sacrifice one game of Fruit Ninja to pick up a phone call and then get RIGHT BACK TO IT. This is seriously the stupidest complaint I've ever heard. You're complaining that your phone is being a phone, jesus christ.

 

[blesio]

@sulpfiction, it's not a PDA, not a notebook, laptop, netbook, palmtop,PC or whatever else, it's a Smartphone, it's still got the phone in the name. Don't want to use it as a phone then take the sim out, turn the airplane mode on whatever....if you don't want to take calls then just buy an iPod like someone earlier said.
Besides why argue on that matter, report to apple as a feature request.
Ain't that simple?

Care to show me another device which had this feature?

 

[onthecouchagain]

You're complaining that your phone is being a phone, jesus christ.

No he's not.

He's not complaining about the capabilities of a phone. Just the implementation of accepting calls can be more intuitive and less obtrusive. This is not an unreasonable wish.

People value phone calls differently. There will be those that use smartphones primary for other features (apps, emails, web, etc.), and those that use smartphones strictly as phones. The point seems to be, if Apple allowed people to change the alert style--like they do most other apps--it would make everyone happy.

Granted, most phones handle incoming calls the same way.

 

[Minhimalism]

No he's not.

He's not complaining about the capabilities of a phone. Just the implementation of accepting calls can be more intuitive and less obtrusive. This is not an unreasonable wish.

People value phone calls differently. There will be those that use smartphones primary for other features (apps, emails, web, etc.), and those that use smartphones strictly as phones. The point seems to be, if Apple allowed people to change the alert style--like they do most other apps--it would make everyone happy.

Granted, most phones handle incoming calls the same way.

I think the reason most phones handle it like this is because it's one of the most intuitive ways to handle it. Getting a little banner when you receive a phone call doesn't seem that smart, and it'd sure be harder to pick up the call and require more effort. Not that this is recommended anyways but for example, if one is driving and receives a call, it's easy to pick up and it's relatively effortless and in that remains safer. However, if the notifications for calls were to become say, banners, then it'd be a lot harder to pick up a call and the lack of 'intrusion' on the phone's part would make it that much more inconvenient. Just my opinion, though.

 

[newyorksole]

@sulpfiction, it's not a PDA, not a notebook, laptop, netbook, palmtop,PC or whatever else, it's a Smartphone, it's still got the phone in the name. Don't want to use it as a phone then take the sim out, turn the airplane mode on whatever....if you don't want to take calls then just buy an iPod like someone earlier said.
Besides why argue on that matter, report to apple as a feature request.
Ain't that simple?

Care to show me another device which had this feature?

so just because another phone doesn't have a feature means that no other phone should have it? if people truly live by that logic then you have no sense of creativity, imagination or innovation. no other phone had an App Store or high-resolution display, but did Apple say "why would we need this? no one else has it."

Sell your iPhone and buy and iPod Touch. Problem solved.

Ummm not quite.

Really? This is a real topic? Sorry, but this request is picky on so many levels. If you don't want to answer a call, either refuse it or send it to voicemail. That way you're "locked out" of your phone for a few seconds max. I'm sure whatever you were doing can wait the 2 seconds that it takes to press a button. What's the problem?

How is this picky? So based off that logic you're also saying that it was ok before "Notifications" that when you got a text and it popped up on the screen OBTRUSIVELY it was quite alright because a phone is supposed to text. The Phone function is an APP just like the other APPS. A phone call is a notification and it is not outlandish that such a feature is requested.

If the person calling you is obtrusive and you don't find any bit of enjoyment in the fact that they're calling, then why are they in your contact list? I'm sure you can sacrifice one game of Fruit Ninja to pick up a phone call and then get RIGHT BACK TO IT. This is seriously the stupidest complaint I've ever heard. You're complaining that your phone is being a phone, jesus christ.

You're a little TOO upset for no reason. Am I complaining? No. if you think this is the stupidest thread you've ever seen. First off I don't play Fruit Ninja and second what is the BIG DEAL with treating the Phone APP like ALL THE OTHER APPS. This is not a complaint it is a SUGGESTION, but clearly you can't comprehend the difference.

Some of you are really ridiculous to bash this idea and think I'm "complaining" just ****.

Obviously you'd be able to adjust whether the phone call takes up the entire screen or just appears on the top bar.

 

[iEvolution]

This was my reasoning a few yrs ago why I wont get one, amazing they still haven't offered an option. That'd drive me nuts.

Actually its one of the few benefits of having two independent devices (other being battery)

 

[newyorksole]

I think the reason most phones handle it like this is because it's one of the most intuitive ways to handle it. Getting a little banner when you receive a phone call doesn't seem that smart, and it'd sure be harder to pick up the call and require more effort. Not that this is recommended anyways but for example, if one is driving and receives a call, it's easy to pick up and it's relatively effortless and in that remains safer. However, if the notifications for calls were to become say, banners, then it'd be a lot harder to pick up a call and the lack of 'intrusion' on the phone's part would make it that much more inconvenient. Just my opinion, though.

OMG it's called choice! People who use the phone A LOT can leave it the current way. Those who want banners can choose banners. Just like every other App allows you to choose.

What is so difficult about this to understand? I'm a HUGE Apple fan but is it really that difficult for people to comprehend CHOICE and OPTIONS? Wow. Especially because Apple allows you to currently choose how each of your apps alerts you. These responses boggle me...

 

[nepalisherpa]

Because it's an iPhone? Last I checked, the telephone was invented primarily for phone calls.

Vehicles were invented for transportation, so, why do they have air conditioning, stereo system, etc? Answer: for good user experience!

 

[newyorksole]

Vehicles were invented for transportation, so, why do they have air conditioning, stereo system, etc? Answer: for good user experience!

thank you and thank you to everyone who agrees with me.

I'm really shocked by some of your responses. it's such a no-brainer.

 

[Votekinky06]

I wouldn't have thought this would be a big deal, but after a few months of using callbar (cydia), I can tell you that I could not imagine going back. It just makes sense, and would have been a natural addition to iOS 5 along with banners and notification center. I'm sure it will come along eventually, almost every good feature found in the jailbreak community ends up in iOS at some point.

 

[ritmomundo]

Its funny, I was thinking the same thing as the OP just this morning. I was in the middle of typing out an urgent email, and I got a call from someone I wanted to talk to, just not at that very moment. I had to sit and wait for 30-40 seconds for the call to go to voicemail before I could finish. I could've hit decline, but I didn't want them to think I "ignored" them. Too bad this thread wasn't very informative in getting around this "issue."

About Callbar on JB'en devices... How well does this work? And is it compatible with iOS5?

 

[matttye]

lol...love this. Anyone who disagrees has to be an Apple fanboy. Of course. Even though its not a feature exclusive to Apple.

The most important feature is calls (for me anyway) and is therefore the priority app.

Even if calls are the most important feature, that's not a good reason not to include the option for non-disruptive calls. You could be texting somebody you want to speak to when somebody you don't want to speak to calls you. How is that desired behaviour

If you wanted the call you could still swipe down and accept it.

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@sulpfiction, it's not a PDA, not a notebook, laptop, netbook, palmtop,PC or whatever else, it's a Smartphone, it's still got the phone in the name. Don't want to use it as a phone then take the sim out, turn the airplane mode on whatever....if you don't want to take calls then just buy an iPod like someone earlier said.
Besides why argue on that matter, report to apple as a feature request.
Ain't that simple?

Care to show me another device which had this feature?

Taking the sim out isn't a suitable idea because we still want to answer SOME calls, just not all of them.

 

[Votekinky06]

It is compatible with iOS 5 and now that it's out of beta it is working flawlessly for me. I'm pretty sure you can find some vids of it on youtube. It allows you to make the entire call from the screen you are on, and you can even turn on speakerphone, mute, etc.

Its funny, I was thinking the same thing as the OP just this morning. I was in the middle of typing out an urgent email, and I got a call from someone I wanted to talk to, just not at that very moment. I had to sit and wait for 30-40 seconds for the call to go to voicemail before I could finish. I could've hit decline, but I didn't want them to think I "ignored" them. Too bad this thread wasn't very informative in getting around this "issue."

About Callbar on JB'en devices... How well does this work? And is it compatible with iOS5?

 

[matttye]

If the person calling you is obtrusive and you don't find any bit of enjoyment in the fact that they're calling, then why are they in your contact list? I'm sure you can sacrifice one game of Fruit Ninja to pick up a phone call and then get RIGHT BACK TO IT. This is seriously the stupidest complaint I've ever heard. You're complaining that your phone is being a phone, jesus christ.

Scenario: my boss calls while I'm on holiday. I don't want to answer the call as I'd rather listen to a voicemail/read a text and see if he needs anything urgently. But at the same time I don't want him to know I've sent him to voicemail.

Thats not am impossible scenario because it's happened to me several times.

 

[ritmomundo]

It is compatible with iOS 5 and now that it's out of beta it is working flawlessly for me. I'm pretty sure you can find some vids of it on youtube. It allows you to make the entire call from the screen you are on, and you can even turn on speakerphone, mute, etc.

Thanks!! In that case, I'm definitely trying this later today.

 

[Minhimalism]

Scenario: my boss calls while I'm on holiday. I don't want to answer the call as I'd rather listen to a voicemail/read a text and see if he needs anything urgently. But at the same time I don't want him to know I've sent him to voicemail.

Thats not am impossible scenario because it's happened to me several times.

Alright I see your point haha. Guess I just personally would have no need for that but as OP said, having the option to change it would definitely be beneficial to some. Sorry if I offended anyone! Should've just though it through more.

 

[onthecouchagain]

If you wanted the call you could still swipe down and accept it.

That's similar to how ICS' incoming calls are handled. It offers a circular swipe with three options: swipe right to answer, left to decline, and up to reply with a text.

 

[Calidude]

It's really depressing how some people in this thread can't see that unobtrusive notifications should apply to the phone as well. There's simply so many scenarios where it would come in handy.

 

[blesio]

so just because another phone doesn't have a feature means that no other phone should have it? if people truly live by that logic then you have no sense of creativity, imagination or innovation. no other phone had an App Store or high-resolution display, but did Apple say "why would we need this? no one else has it."

Well maybe just because any other phone doesn't have this feature it's just not there, maybe it's just not needed. What bothers me more is that sometimes phones don't have features that others have, basic features.

I for one was very pleased about the Retina display and this was one of the main reasons I got the iPhone 4, but I can't understand why if I make forwarding from my second phone to this one I don't get the info that when someone calls me on the forwarded number that the call I'm about to pick up is being forwarded, such message, information is presented on all Nokias and is a standard GSM feature which apple doesn't have. But you don't see me coming to this forum an crying over it....
Never the less, if gaming is more important to some then really, either go to the apple site and drop them an email or just turn on the airplane mode or jailbreak, because no one will help solving this issue otherwise.

Good night

 

[Calidude]

Never the less, if gaming is more important to some then really, either go to the apple site and drop them an email or just turn on the airplane mode or jailbreak, because no one will help solving this issue otherwise.

Dude, the point is that we want APPLE to provide a solution for the issue that we describe in this thread. We shouldn't have to jailbreak for every common sense scenario we have. It's Apple's job to make the magic happen, but people like you think Apple already makes enough magic happen and thinks the product should never evolve simply because YOU don't use your phone enough.

 

[blesio]

Ohhhh, and if you want to silence the ringer just press the volume down button or the power button do t remember which one and the phone stops ringing, you can't continue working on an other app until the ringing ends though. I guess that the manufacturers think that calling/receiving calls is the most important feature of a phone.

 

[Calidude]

Ohhhh, and if you want to silence the ringer just press the volume down button or the power button do t remember which one and the phone stops ringing, you can't continue working on an other app until the ringing ends though. I guess that the manufacturers think that calling/receiving calls is the most important feature of a phone.

The ringing is NOT the problem. The problem is the fullscreen notification we have when the phone rings, even if we are using the phone. The option we want for calls should be:

1) If the screen is off, use the standard call screen.
2) If the screen is in use, use an unobtrusive notification with the buttons "answer" and "ignore"

 

[blesio]

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Dude, the point is that we want APPLE to provide a solution for the issue that we describe in this thread. We shouldn't have to jailbreak for every common sense scenario we have. It's Apple's job to make the magic happen, but people like you think Apple already makes enough magic happen and thinks the product should never evolve simply because YOU don't use your phone enough.

Dude then go to the Apple site and write to them, they aren't reading this forum any way. And BTW, you don't know how I'm using my phone... And if someone is calling me then they need something from me so I just take the call, if you don't want to talk to someone calling then reject the call, an if someone just disturbed your game? Well you shouldn't be using the phone in the toilet anyway...

 

[Votekinky06]

I guess that the manufacturers think that calling/receiving calls is the most important feature of a phone.

But it's not anymore. Phones are now a hub of communication, and in business, and many other scenarios phone calls are no longer the primary mode of communication. When in the middle of writing or reading an important email I don't want my train of thought interrupted for 15 to 30 seconds by an unimportant phone call. But seriously though, just be patient and jailbreak your phone if its important to you until apple unveils it as a huge selling point on the new phone