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I don't give out my number, very few people have it.

And I don't claim to be perfect, I've better things to worry about.
What does not giving out your number have anything to do with unobtrusive notifications?

I really want you to elaborate on this.
 
What does not giving out your number have anything to do with unobtrusive notifications?

I really want you to elaborate on this.

He asked me about getting unwanted calls, I didn't say anything about unobtrusive notifications. Nice try, though.
 
Oh man, this is just getting silly.

You're completely off topic, werwon. I was speaking about your post before that.

It's a phone and the rationale is that most people prefer not to miss calls. Here's a novel idea, if calls are that intrusive and annoying, stop giving out your number.
 
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Oh man, this is just getting silly.

You're completely off topic, werwon. I was speaking about your post before that.

Bwahaha! Sorry, the post you quoted was in response to the one I mentioned.

ETA: Then, I'd turn them all off!!!

Yes, it really should be an option, that the user controls. Then everyone could be happy.
 
What does not giving out your number have anything to do with unobtrusive notifications?

I really want you to elaborate on this.

Some of us have to use our personal phones for business as well. So in my case, not giving my number out to strangers is not even an option. But this has nothing to do with not having obtrusive notifications.
 
I don't give out my number, very few people have it.

And I don't claim to be perfect, I've better things to worry about.

I don't give out my number to people I don't want to have it, I've signed up for the telephone preference register (which is supposed to make me stop getting unsolicited marketing calls) and I always untick the box which says companies can contact me by phone or share my information, but I STILL get spam calls which I don't want. Having some way of making these calls less intrusive would be a great feature.

Will it change my life? Not really, but it'd still be nice to have.

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Bwahaha! Sorry, the post you quoted was in response to the one I mentioned.

ETA: Then, I'd turn them all off!!!

Yes, it really should be an option, that the user controls. Then everyone could be happy.

Woohoo the voice of reason finally shows up! :p
 
To me it sounds like most of you have no actual need for a smartphone in your day to day lives. The origin and purpose of the smart phone was to simplify that you had your PDA and your cell phone on you at all times. In terms of priority, voice calls are of the most importance because otherwise why carry a cell phone at all. Secondary comes everything else (e.g. 'Apps').

But what about if you're in a meeting (or you're a teenager, shouldn't own a smart phone and are in class like I suspect must of you are) and you want to send an email and you get booted out of your email, you might counter. Well to that I respond if you are unable to answer a phone, you are in a situation where you should not be replying to email as well. Additionally, if the email was so important that it had to be responded to immediately then it probably warrants a phone call anyway.

Honestly, if the 3G access is THAT important to you invest in an iPad or smaller android tablet. You get all of the PDA support without the need to drag around a phone that would just inconvenience you if it rang. Besides, they could always get the voice mail on your land line.

Did you really just say that this feature would only benefit teenagers in class? That's absolutely ridiculous. Nobody is saying they don't want to receive phone calls, just that we don't necessarily want to answer every call. I tend not to answer "unknown" calls or numbers with a London area code because nine times out of ten they're marketing calls. It would be more convenient if a big window didn't pop up with an unwanted call and I could just ignore it and carry on what I'm doing.
 
Again, you people say the phone is the priority, yet you think the user should have the least amount of control over the notifications for his calls app as compared to the other apps. You have no idea what you're talking about, and you're venturing off topic with this ridiculous solution of yours.

So, do I not know what i'm talking about just because you say so? Nope, just like you, I am entitled to my opinion, which is that I like the phone app how it is, because with the few people that have my number, if someone's calling me, it's likely damn important, so I don't want to risk missing the call because I didn't se the notification. You can't say that you haven't missed at least one banner notification, just based on the fact that you're not perfect. and this whole business of you saying we're all off topic is just as crazy, because nobody has ventured off topic. From what's posted in the thread, I can't see anyone who's not talking about their opinion about the phone app. Furthermore, just because someone disagrees with you, that doesn't mean that their opinion is wrong or any less valid.
 
this REALLY needs to be changed for the camera/video aspect of the phone... I was trying to record my nephews wrestling match and got a call and pressed ignore but it still stops the recording, started recording again and the dude calls right back! arggh missed his match. say your kid is taking their first steps or something and you get a phone call... you can't get that moment back.
 
this REALLY needs to be changed for the camera/video aspect of the phone... I was trying to record my nephews wrestling match and got a call and pressed ignore but it still stops the recording, started recording again and the dude calls right back! arggh missed his match. say your kid is taking their first steps or something and you get a phone call... you can't get that moment back.

If you are recording these life events, then put the iPhone into Airplane mode first. That way you can still photograph, video, etc without having any distracting phone calls or text messages.
 
If you are recording these life events, then put the iPhone into Airplane mode first. That way you can still photograph, video, etc without having any distracting phone calls or text messages.

Exactly. It's not apple's fault that someone called you.
 
If you are recording these life events, then put the iPhone into Airplane mode first. That way you can still photograph, video, etc without having any distracting phone calls or text messages.

yeah this can work for things like wrestling matches or other planned events, but hold on kid, don't do anything spontaneous without giving me time to rummage through settings first! i just think its probably a given that if you're video taping something you most likely don't want to be interrupted... if i'm surfing the web sure call me and and interrupt me but if you're ok with being interrupted while video taping, why are you video taping it in the first place??

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Exactly. It's not apple's fault that someone called you.

no but its apples fault that i don't have option to never get interrupted while using the video camera. it would be a simple setting that i could set once and forget.
 
no but its apples fault that i don't have option to never get interrupted while using the video camera. it would be a simple setting that i could set once and forget.

You can always jb your phone, unless you have a 4s, then you just have to wait for the jb and then you can edit everything to your hearts content.
 
You can always jb your phone, unless you have a 4s, then you just have to wait for the jb and then you can edit everything to your hearts content.

yes i'm aware of that and i have a 4s. i know there are things i can do to lessen the problem or in the future get around it, but that doesn't mean i can't say i think they should make that a built in feature/setting. it just seems very unintuitive to me.
 
You can always jb your phone, unless you have a 4s, then you just have to wait for the jb and then you can edit everything to your hearts content.

Let me get this straight, are you saying there should be an options to have call pop up in notification center?


The OP has a legit concern, and people throughout this thread, do as usual. its "not needed" or "JB your phone" or "get android" instead of talking about the REAL issue at hand.

And they guy above with his comment on taking video is a valid point.
 
So, do I not know what i'm talking about just because you say so? Nope, just like you, I am entitled to my opinion, which is that I like the phone app how it is, because with the few people that have my number, if someone's calling me, it's likely damn important, so I don't want to risk missing the call because I didn't se the notification. You can't say that you haven't missed at least one banner notification, just based on the fact that you're not perfect. and this whole business of you saying we're all off topic is just as crazy, because nobody has ventured off topic. From what's posted in the thread, I can't see anyone who's not talking about their opinion about the phone app. Furthermore, just because someone disagrees with you, that doesn't mean that their opinion is wrong or any less valid.

And pray tell me, what is wrong with their being an option for those of us who want it to not be obtrusive to have the phone notify you a different way? No one is saying they shouldn't allow the old way! They are saying they want the option for another way that is less obtrusive. Kinda like how you can still do the old style of pop up notifications if you want or use the new style, and you can even set that for individual apps (like I want my tasks to do the pop up obtrusive notification so I use that, but other apps I do the banner notifications).

Really, is it really that hard for people to comprehend that all we are asking for is a *choice* to do it some other way? We're not asking them to get rid of the other way. Just to add a way if some one wants something different!
 
Let me get this straight, are you saying there should be an options to have call pop up in notification center?


The OP has a legit concern, and people throughout this thread, do as usual. its "not needed" or "JB your phone" or "get android" instead of talking about the REAL issue at hand.

And they guy above with his comment on taking video is a valid point.

I never said anything of the sort, I have no idea where you got that from what I said. I like how it's set up now, and if you miss a call, it shows up in notification center do I have no idea what you're talking about.

You're right, the OP does have a legitimate concern, but guess what? He can't change the settings, so as an apple stock phone sits you have three options if it's not doing something you want.

1. Jailbreak and set it up how you want
2. Deal with it
3. Get a new phone

These are the facts, unless you are an apple engineer of course, or could otherwise privy to some information we don't know.
 
This.


It is sad how apple fanboys are so one sided that they won't even consider options to be a choice.

At least there is jailbreaking that can relieve most of Apple's lockdown.


Hey now, I'm an apple fangirl and I can still understand that having the option is not a bad thing. The only time I will bitch about it is if I think it will compromise something I like (like people who say there should be a bigger iphone and a smaller one, I don't like that because most likely the smaller one will get a smaller processor or worse graphics and I like to game but I want a smaller phone. Now if they didn't compromise performance specs I"d be fine with it, but judging on the fact that apple treats the 13" MBP as the one that if you want that small you couldn't possibly also want a good graphics card/faster speed I don't trust they'd call the smaller iphone the slower processor/not as powerful one).
 
It is called an iPhone though... not an iText, or an iGame, or an iInternet, or an iPod. It's not even an iGPS, or an iReader or an iCamera. it's an iPhone... Just by the name you can tell they view the phone as the priority. Knowing that, the consumer has the choice to not buy one. So, if the consumer buys it and doesn't like it, it's their own fault that they didn't make sure that it was what they wanted first.

So what? It still has all of those features.

It's called an iPhone because it would be silly to call it an iphone&text&email&playgames&havemaps&appsetc.

It's a pretty weak argument to say the iPhone shouldn't support inobtrusive calling because it's called an iPhone. In face that's a STUPID argument. I feel like I've lost brain cells just reading your post.

There's even the perfect place in the notification centre options for it to live, alongside other similar options.
 
Again, for anyone using "a phone call is the most important thing" argument, that is a talking point in favor of the OP and in favor of improving notification options for phone calls. The unexpected and obtrusive phone call notifications can be just as likely to be accidentally dismissed than accidentally answered due to the interruption. If phone calls are the most important thing, additional features to best handle accepting or rejecting phone calls is warranted and desirable.

Why has this not ended the conversation yet.
 
So what? It still has all of those features.

It's called an iPhone because it would be silly to call it an iphone&text&email&playgames&havemaps&appsetc.

It's a pretty weak argument to say the iPhone shouldn't support inobtrusive calling because it's called an iPhone. In face that's a STUPID argument. I feel like I've lost brain cells just reading your post.

There's even the perfect place in the notification centre options for it to live, alongside other similar options.

I never once said that it shouldn't. While I personally prefer how it's set up, throughout the thread, I maintained - and still maintain the position That the iPhone should have that option but doesn't currently and that if user wanted those options, they can get them, they just have to jb or get a different phone because iPhone doesn't support these settings natively.

In the future it might serve some people well to read before launching personal attacks.
 
I never once said that it shouldn't. While I personally prefer how it's set up, throughout the thread, I maintained - and still maintain the position That the iPhone should have that option but doesn't currently and that if user wanted those options, they can get them, they just have to jb or get a different phone because iPhone doesn't support these settings natively.

In the future it might serve some people well to read before launching personal attacks.

"It is called an iPhone though... not an iText, or an iGame, or an iInternet, or an iPod. It's not even an iGPS, or an iReader or an iCamera. it's an iPhone... Just by the name you can tell they view the phone as the priority. Knowing that, the consumer has the choice to not buy one. So, if the consumer buys it and doesn't like it, it's their own fault that they didn't make sure that it was what they wanted first."

This post appears to indicate that the phone is the priority and if you don't like the way it works, buy something else.

Apologies if I got that wrong. :)
 
So the iSheeps are mad because you are suggesting an option to make calls less obtrusive like you have for emails, texts and notifications?

Why am I not surprised.
 
You're right, the OP does have a legitimate concern, but guess what? He can't change the settings, so as an apple stock phone sits you have three options if it's not doing something you want.

1. Jailbreak and set it up how you want
2. Deal with it
3. Get a new phone

These are the facts, unless you are an apple engineer of course, or could otherwise privy to some information we don't know.

yes we are aware that we can't natively change the settings. that is in fact why this thread exists... but thanks for stating the obvious. :rolleyes:

1. the 4s can't be jailbroken yet
2. if we still have the phone we are obviously dealing with it, but that doesn't mean we can't express our feelings and wish it to be changed.
3. this is rarely the solution as no phone is perfect and there will always be something not to like... this isn't a deal breaker kind of issue, its just a function that in certain situations is unituitive and a nuisance.
 
"It is called an iPhone though... not an iText, or an iGame, or an iInternet, or an iPod. It's not even an iGPS, or an iReader or an iCamera. it's an iPhone... Just by the name you can tell they view the phone as the priority. Knowing that, the consumer has the choice to not buy one. So, if the consumer buys it and doesn't like it, it's their own fault that they didn't make sure that it was what they wanted first."

This post appears to indicate that the phone is the priority and if you don't like the way it works, buy something else.

Apologies if I got that wrong. :)

No harm no foul. I can easily see where it could be interpreted that way. What I was trying to do was try to rationalize not having that feature - call it iPhone focus on phone aspect.
 
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