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I have...once. And I can still say that I have some cans of paint in the basement that will provide more entertainment :D

Give it another shot and then let me know. Gotta give everything an honest effort.
 
Golf is in the sport section of every major newspaper and news outlet, not in with chess and backgammon.

So are motor sports and horse/dog racing.

While I make an exception for golf being labeled a sport (really, only because golfers throw a conniption fit when I refuse to conform), I draw the line at people calling golfers "athletes".

What makes a game/match a sport these days seems to be determined by how much money it brings in.
 
Gymnastics is not a sport?

i have to agree with Abstract on this one. while gymnastics and figure skating require tremendous athleticism, i have a lot of trouble thinking it to be a sport when it's so subjectively judged. a contest? sure. but a sport? not in my eyes.
 
i think it's more politically correct to call it a sport if a sport is something only a common man does and a game is only something a gentleman of high social stature does

we need to make golf a sport anybody can enjoy and take the snob appeal out of it

golf is the only sport i know of where somebody who is black is referred to a a "black" member of that sport

a black baseball player is referred to as a baseball player, and a black basketball player is referred to as a basketball player, and not black baseball player or black basketball player, respectively

i am so tired when i hear about how great tiger is for being black...to me he is a great all-time golfer for what he does on the green, not that he is black and he achieved this status

tiger woods is a golfer, not a "black" golfer and he has reiterated to the press over and over that he is also asian (from his mother) but the press never seems to get that fact

go figure
 
Gymnastics is not a sport?

If it requires judging, then no. It's a physical activity. Same with surfing. People argue with me about it all the time, but when it comes to something like football (soccer), if the ball goes into the net, it's a goal. That rule is clear. Refs may have to get involved in basketball, hockey, football, baseball, etc, but the purpose of the game isn't to impress anyone. It's to get some sort of object (eg: ball) into some sort of goal (i.e.: whatever you're aiming for).

So by that last definition of mine, even sex is more of a sport than gymnastics. Even babysitting is more of a sport, sucka!

i have to agree with Abstract on this one. while gymnastics and figure skating require tremendous athleticism, i have a lot of trouble thinking it to be a sport when it's so subjectively judged. a contest? sure. but a sport? not in my eyes.

REJOICE! Someone agrees so that I don't look stoopid.
 
i have to agree with Abstract on this one. while gymnastics and figure skating require tremendous athleticism, i have a lot of trouble thinking it to be a sport when it's so subjectively judged. a contest? sure. but a sport? not in my eyes.
Did you watch the NBA finals last night? Seems a lot of judging going on there by the officials. LOL
 
I have...once. And I can still say that I have some cans of paint in the basement that will provide more entertainment :D

ok, then, he he, what if i gave you the choice between playing golf and watching a windows 98 machine defrag itself? ;)
 
So by that last definition of mine, even sex is more of a sport than gymnastics. Even babysitting is more of a sport, sucka!



REJOICE! Someone agrees so that I don't look stoopid.

sex does have the definition of getting something in a hole, or some hole for that matter :)

...and like sports starts, some people make good money at sex, too
 
IMO, ballet and gymnastics require more physical exertion and precision than almost any sport known to man. A gymnast, especially, is the epitome of an athlete.
 
sex does have the definition of getting something in a hole, or some hole for that matter :)

See? You think dirty just like me.


So, by your definition, boxing would not be a sport. :confused:

That has always been the iffy one with me, where I'm not sure what my answer is. Even if you agree with my definition, I'd side with those who call it a sport because, technically, you're supposed to be trying to knock the other guy out, or knock him down 3 times. Those objectives seem clear. However, if you do neither, then boxing is judged. However, the judging is more objective, because the person who gets more points for more clear hits, wins. I know it's not that simple, which is why I have a hard time classifying boxing as sport or game/activity, but to me, it's a sport.
 
I think the need for strategy and a keen understanding of the conditions of the activity are true of all sports. Thus, moving golf from the sports to the game category on that basis doesn't make much sense.
 
Originally, fun rather than winning was the aim of a sport. As in fox hunting. Games were more concerned with winning something. As in Croquet. Now it doesn't really matter which you use.
 
So are motor sports and horse/dog racing.

While I make an exception for golf being labeled a sport (really, only because golfers throw a conniption fit when I refuse to conform), I draw the line at people calling golfers "athletes".

Oh man, clearly you've never been an good golfer. I've played golf for almost half of my life and I played competitively for 3/4 of that time. I was as much of an athlete as anybody on the baseball team, football team, or basketball team. I worked out 3 days a week, practiced or played golf 6 days a week (all year, not just for 5-6 months likes most of the other "athletes"), and carried a four handicap (to put it very simply, I could generally be counted on to shoot within four shots of par). Golf requires as much mentally from a good player as being a starting pitcher does. Physically most of the golfers were as strong as any of the baseball or basketball players and were probably mentally stronger. The best golfers in the world are just as much athletes as any of the best athletes in other sports. Heck, I'm willing to bet Tiger could run faster and out dual the majority of amateur "athletes" at their sport of choosing.

Dog racing is definitely not a sport, but being a jockey could certainly be considered a sport. That takes considerable skill, strength, and a lot of practice.
 
Tiger Woods would kick your ass in any sport on this planet.

Apart from if it requires a specific skill that he doesn't possess. I'd love to see him "kick the ass" of an experienced skier if he'd never skied before, for example. Likewise for a tennis player. Or a windsurfer. Or a downhill mountain biker. etc. etc.
 
If it requires judging, then no. It's a physical activity. Same with surfing. People argue with me about it all the time, but when it comes to something like football (soccer), if the ball goes into the net, it's a goal. That rule is clear. Refs may have to get involved in basketball, hockey, football, baseball, etc, but the purpose of the game isn't to impress anyone. It's to get some sort of object (eg: ball) into some sort of goal (i.e.: whatever you're aiming for).

So by that last definition of mine, even sex is more of a sport than gymnastics. Even babysitting is more of a sport, sucka!

sport
• noun
1. an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others.

the end. that is the definition of sport..

watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcLCKFTeoK4
and name one athlete from any sport anywhere in the world, that could do anything even close to that. yet all of those gymnasts can throw a ball or hit a ball or kick a ball into one of your so called sport-defining 'holes'. and if you still dont want to consider gymnastics as a sport.. then fine ill agree with you.. its far superior to any sport out there.

also.. my general opinion is.. if its not in the olympics than its not a true sport.

That has always been the iffy one with me, where I'm not sure what my answer is. Even if you agree with my definition, I'd side with those who call it a sport because, technically, you're supposed to be trying to knock the other guy out, or knock him down 3 times. Those objectives seem clear. However, if you do neither, then boxing is judged. However, the judging is more objective, because the person who gets more points for more clear hits, wins. I know it's not that simple, which is why I have a hard time classifying boxing as sport or game/activity, but to me, it's a sport.

this in no way is different from gymnastics.. youre trying to perform a perfect routine.. no falls.. no form breaks.. and enough difficulty value.. these objectives seem clear. however if you do neither, then gymnastics is judged. however the judging is more objective, because the person with more difficulty, less falls and form breaks, wins.
 
i am in the skateboard and skateboard clothing business and many consider tony hawk one of the greats if not overall (old school/new school in his age group) as the best ever in that sense throughout a long career

but being great at one sport does not transfer all the time to other sports...tony does not know how to surf very well, for instance but many would probably instantly think he has to be good at surfing since it requires a board and balance

but a good skater does not make a good surfer in every instance or vice versa

without knowing that much about how tiger woods measures up in polo, basketball, skiing, surfing, ice skating, etc, it's hard to say he would excel at any other sport on the pro or even semi-pro level

he's amazing at golf, and that's all we know so far and the last time i checked, he wasn't out there in a red sox uniform, new york giants uniform, or a celtics uniform
 
Oh man, clearly you've never been an good golfer. I've played golf for almost half of my life and I played competitively for 3/4 of that time. I was as much of an athlete as anybody on the baseball team, football team, or basketball team. I worked out 3 days a week, practiced or played golf 6 days a week (all year, not just for 5-6 months likes most of the other "athletes"), and carried a four handicap (to put it very simply, I could generally be counted on to shoot within four shots of par). Golf requires as much mentally from a good player as being a starting pitcher does. Physically most of the golfers were as strong as any of the baseball or basketball players and were probably mentally stronger. The best golfers in the world are just as much athletes as any of the best athletes in other sports. Heck, I'm willing to bet Tiger could run faster and out dual the majority of amateur "athletes" at their sport of choosing.

Dog racing is definitely not a sport, but being a jockey could certainly be considered a sport. That takes considerable skill, strength, and a lot of practice.

Clearly you don't know what athleticism is, if you think it only entails physical strength and mental toughness. Strength, agility, flexibility, endurance and stamina is some of what separates athletes from the rest of the population. Of those characteristics, how many of them can you honestly say a golfer possesses? True athletes are elite physical & mental specimens, and to lump golfers in with them is insulting.

While some golfers may be great athletes on the side, they don't have to demonstrate much of it on the golf course.

... and the golf cart/caddy definitely doesn't help them in this argument. :D


Is a golfer an Athlete?
"The question was given serious analysis in a study conducted in 2004 by ESPN.com, and, for golf lovers, the process resulted in an unflattering answer. A panel of experts which included sports scientists from the U.S. Olympic Committee, academics who study the science of muscles and movement, and sports journalists was polled to identify the most demanding of 60 sports. Various activities were graded on 10 components of athleticism: endurance, strength, power, speed, agility, flexibility, nerve, durability, hand-eye coordination and analytic aptitude. Boxing ranked first, followed by hockey, football and basketball. Golf ranked -- take a deep breath -- 51st out of the 60 sports, just behind table tennis and horse racing. It did, however, place just ahead of cheerleading and roller-skating, with fishing finishing last".
 
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