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Wow. Thanks everyone! My opinions have been changed. I guess I am an all Mac guy now. I really hope in a few decades Macs will be used more in businesses, especially programming ones.
 
Apple has the whole range covered, for all of my needs. Workhorse? iMac. Ultraportable? Air. Cheap consumption device with great battery life? iPad.

It's nice to have choice and flexibility, and have the Apple experience streamlined.

Primary reason for using the desktop is for its raw horsepower for video editing, gaming, multitasking (browsing on the right pane/streaming movie on left pane), and access to large data store. Working on the larger 27" display is a pleasure.
 
I'm in same boat trying to deicde if I should wait for 2012 iMac or get 2012 MBP 13' with i7 processor. I looked up benchmarking and 2011 iMac i5 beats 2012 MBP 13" i7 and still costs less than 2012 MBP13". I'm thinking I should wait little bit more for iMAc.
 
I'm in same boat trying to deicde if I should wait for 2012 iMac or get 2012 MBP 13' with i7 processor. I looked up benchmarking and 2011 iMac i5 beats 2012 MBP 13" i7 and still costs less than 2012 MBP13". I'm thinking I should wait little bit more for iMAc.

Well I have a 2011 MBP 13' i5 processor with 8gb of ram and I get a score of 6580 on geekbench. I would really recommend you get the MBP, but it depends on what other computers you have and what you are using it for.
 
if you buy a laptop when you don't need mobile then you are kidding yourself ;)
 
Well I have a 2011 MBP 13' i5 processor with 8gb of ram and I get a score of 6580 on geekbench. I would really recommend you get the MBP, but it depends on what other computers you have and what you are using it for.

Appreciate you response, I've 2010 MBP 13 Core2Duo 2.4GHz with 8GB RAM + 256GB SSD and I find it bit on slower side while working on LR4 + CS6. Here is comparison which shows 2011 iMac gets better score when you compare it with 2012 MBP13 i7 as 2011 iMac has quad processor CPU compared to Dual processor on MBP 13.

http://www.macworld.com/article/1159692/imacmid2011benchmarks.html

Please tell me if I'm overlooking something here.
 
if you buy a laptop when you don't need mobile then you are kidding yourself ;)

Well I don't NEED mobility but since I have a laptop now I can take it on vacations(like right now) and take it into any room in my house, and even take it to school.

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Appreciate you response, I've 2010 MBP 13 Core2Duo 2.4GHz with 8GB RAM + 256GB SSD and I find it bit on slower side while working on LR4 + CS6. Here is comparison which shows 2011 iMac gets better score when you compare it with 2012 MBP13 i7 as 2011 iMac has quad processor CPU compared to Dual processor on MBP 13.

http://www.macworld.com/article/1159692/imacmid2011benchmarks.html

Please tell me if I'm overlooking something here.

Nice MBP. I am also going to upgrade to an SSD when I get my next MBP. The reason why yours is slow is definitely because of the processor. I have an i5 and it runs awesome but sometimes I will get the beach ball at the very beginning of opening an Adobe product but then it goes away. So yeah what is your geekbench score because I am really interested and wanting to compare it with my MBP.
 
Well I don't NEED mobility but since I have a laptop now I can take it on vacations(like right now) and take it into any room in my house, and even take it to school.


sorry, I meant in general. Not directly replying to you :p just replying for the thread topic question
 
Hey I was just wondering why people use Mac desktops(including PPC's) instead of a powerful Macbook Pro? Currently, the Macbook Pro's can be more powerful then some of the Mac desktops and you can go to any room in your home with the laptop.

Why would I pay more for portability if my home Mac's most important task is being the media server for several AppleTVs and sync server for the various iDevices that my wife and kids and I use? Given that I'd never even want the Mac to so much as go into sleep mode, the value of a notebook Mac in this application seems questionable at best. Or, to put it another way, not everyone has the same computing needs as you.
 
Having powerful and bigger cousin in 27 imac addition to having 13 MBA is sweet points.

Neither can replace one another without giving up something. Obviously, if you cannot afford both, get mba w/ external monitor
 
Well we use both. The iMac in the office and the MBP for on the road. Love that large screen!
 
The laptop is better for mobility but I would never give up using my imac. I love having such a large screen.
 
Well I don't NEED mobility but since I have a laptop now I can take it on vacations(like right now) and take it into any room in my house, and even take it to school.

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Nice MBP. I am also going to upgrade to an SSD when I get my next MBP. The reason why yours is slow is definitely because of the processor. I have an i5 and it runs awesome but sometimes I will get the beach ball at the very beginning of opening an Adobe product but then it goes away. So yeah what is your geekbench score because I am really interested and wanting to compare it with my MBP.


MY Geekbench 2 score is 3445
for 2010 MBP 2.4GHZ with 8GB RAM
 
A desktop can't do what a laptop does. A laptop can do pretty much everything a desktop does, but with some compromises, which is why I have both.

Lame comparison, I'd say.

It's like saying a bicycle would take you places wherever a car could. It's true to a narrow point.

You can be crazy enough to ride a bicycle from New York to Los Angeles, maybe you'll get there in months? Or maybe you'll end up dead on the road? Or give up and go back.

Or you can simply ride a car and get there in 3 or 4 days trip. No sweat.

Your choice.
 
Why? Macs use the same basic components as other x86 based computers. But then again ...

Vendor implementations of Intel's technology can vary somewhat. OEMs that stick with the reference platform tend to see out-of-the box support (Dell/HP). Vendors that customize (Apple/Sony) the platform do not have the benefit of much of the pre-release testing that occurs by Intel and the Linux community.

Typically what happens is that linux "runs" on these customized machines, but the display doesn't illuminate, or the power management doesn't work properly, or some other trivial fix needs to be implemented and tested.

This usually happens shortly after the release. A linux dev will obtain a rMBP, write the display patch, another will write a PM patch, another will figure out what is wrong with the PCIe subsystem and causes the high CPU utilization when using an external TBolt display.

These patches go into staging, staging goes into mainline, and in 1-3 months, you see the fixes in the next Ubuntu release. It's really nobody's fault. Linux devs simply do not have access to Apple's pre-release hardware and start troubleshooting when they acquire the hardware.

Sometimes it works out and Apple's implementation matches the reference implementation. In the case of the retina display, there was no reference implementation. In the short term, there's VMWare Fusion.


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MY Geekbench 2 score is 3445
for 2010 MBP 2.4GHZ with 8GB RAM

Wow very interesting. I wonder what the score would be if it was an i5 processor.

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Vendor implementations of Intel's technology can vary somewhat. OEMs that stick with the reference platform tend to see out-of-the box support (Dell/HP). Vendors that customize (Apple/Sony) the platform do not have the benefit of much of the pre-release testing that occurs by Intel and the Linux community.

Typically what happens is that linux "runs" on these customized machines, but the display doesn't illuminate, or the power management doesn't work properly, or some other trivial fix needs to be implemented and tested.

This usually happens shortly after the release. A linux dev will obtain a rMBP, write the display patch, another will write a PM patch, another will figure out what is wrong with the PCIe subsystem and causes the high CPU utilization when using an external TBolt display.

These patches go into staging, staging goes into mainline, and in 1-3 months, you see the fixes in the next Ubuntu release. It's really nobody's fault. Linux devs simply do not have access to Apple's pre-release hardware and start troubleshooting when they acquire the hardware.

Sometimes it works out and Apple's implementation matches the reference implementation. In the case of the retina display, there was no reference implementation. In the short term, there's VMWare Fusion.


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Exactly :)
 
If I only had 1 computer, it would certainly be a laptop. Luckily, that isn't the case right now and I don't see it happening any time soon. I use my MacBook probably about 95% of the time around the house (mostly on the couch). The iMac sits in the other room and is my work horse for ripping and encoding movies, serving them to iTunes, and most importantly, where my Aperture library resides.

I can get a 21" iMac plus an 11" MacBook Air for not much more than a similarly spec'ed 15" MacBook Pro and get a lot more functionality for my purposes.
 
Because desktops work better for some people. Personally, I like knowing that I can swap out parts when I want, and having the overall expandability. I don't want to have to install a ton of dongles and peripherals to achieve the same thing I can with just a desktop tower. Plus, laptops tend to get hot and their reliability is often lower.
 
If I only had 1 computer, it would certainly be a laptop. Luckily, that isn't the case right now and I don't see it happening any time soon. I use my MacBook probably about 95% of the time around the house (mostly on the couch). The iMac sits in the other room and is my work horse for ripping and encoding movies, serving them to iTunes, and most importantly, where my Aperture library resides.

I can get a 21" iMac plus an 11" MacBook Air for not much more than a similarly spec'ed 15" MacBook Pro and get a lot more functionality for my purposes.

Do you really have a MacBook? Or a Macbook Pro? Also why do you encode videos to itunes?

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Because desktops work better for some people. Personally, I like knowing that I can swap out parts when I want, and having the overall expandability. I don't want to have to install a ton of dongles and peripherals to achieve the same thing I can with just a desktop tower. Plus, laptops tend to get hot and their reliability is often lower.

Yeah I'm hoping when I get my next Macbook Pro it won't get as hot when I play Minecraft.
 
Wow very interesting. I wonder what the score would be if it was an i5 processor.

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Exactly :)

Well I dont know about that part as you could post your score for it. I've seen few scores from 2012 i7 MBP 13 of 6900-7300 range. Probably that wont psyc me as much as seeing score of 10000 on iMac.
 
Well I dont know about that part as you could post your score for it. I've seen few scores from 2012 i7 MBP 13 of 6900-7300 range. Probably that wont psyc me as much as seeing score of 10000 on iMac.

Well they are desktops :) Haha I guess if you have enough money then go for the Mac desktop, if you don't really need a desktop and you like to move around then just get the Macbook Pro. I noticed the Mac desktops have a Xeon processor which is great for servers.
 
Well they are desktops :) Haha I guess if you have enough money then go for the Mac desktop, if you don't really need a desktop and you like to move around then just get the Macbook Pro. I noticed the Mac desktops have a Xeon processor which is great for servers.

The Mac Pro uses Xeons, which is good for servers and other tasks. The iMacs use desktop CPUs and the Mac minis use notebook CPUs.
 
Because of desktop chips.
Next year i'l buy an Hashwell MacbookPro 15,
this year a..(sadly) late 2012 Imac ( when Cook stops to double down,after the Ios Parade hopefully ).
For my light work,such as studies,admin on my website (even with a little editing with photoshop touch and ftping with GoodReader)..etc..etc..just an Ipad.
That's why i'm not choosing to use this and never the other,i use the device as more comfrtable or capable for the work i need.
 
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