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DAMNIT! This can be sooo easily solved with the addition of a slim add-on fold back keyboard custom fit to iphone OR a CASE that implements a slide out keyboard. OR has anyone seen that playstation 3 controler keyboard, the one that starps a small qwerty right on the controler, did you know that that thing is BT and can work with iphone. You can just mount your phone on your car dash and hold that little ps3 qwerty in one hand and type.
 
Oh come on. This is one of the most absurd things I've read here, and that's saying something. Wanting a physical keyboard on a phone isn't "anti apple". It's pro physical keyboards. Some people just like "real" keyboards. They're simply pro "what works for me".
To me the real problem is that the journalists discount the usefulness of virtual keyboards to a percentage of the population, just like you seem to discount the usefulness of a virtual keyboard (which is just as "real" as the physical keyboard, by the way).
Journalists are supposed to leave their biases at the door and not insert them into the article. Yet, this is exactly what they're doing. That's why I get annoyed when they consider the lack of a physical keyboard a negative.
 
Other than the lack of touch typing (which I/we/you shouldn't be doing in the car anyway), I type more quickly and more smoothly on the iPhone than on T9, Blackberry, or any other mobile device I've used. Hardware keyboards feel awkward, honestly.

But that's just me.
 
I really don't think Apple will ever have a physical keyboard on the iPhone because it would add more bulk to the phone.
 
Oh come on. This is one of the most absurd things I've read here, and that's saying something. Wanting a physical keyboard on a phone isn't "anti apple". It's pro physical keyboards. Some people just like "real" keyboards. They're simply pro "what works for me".

Well put my man. A lot of stupid, senseless statements in this thread. People can't prefer different things, the must a think alike according to some on here. It's a matter of choice.
 
Keyboard is fine for the bonus is screen size, but you have to concede that touch typing is thrown out the window, as you must look at the keyboard and screen constantly for all but one button press.

I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this but I can touchtype on the iPhone's keyboard.
 
I think Apple was the first company to have a phone with no physical keyboard but have it on screen, some one correct me if I'm wrong.

Touchscreen phones didn't have physical keyboards for many years. The combination is actually fairly recent, and was seen by most consumers as a high-end feature.

There were also alternative input methods, such as handwriting recognition, long before physical keyboards were used in combo.

What Apple was first to do in the mass consumer (not industrial) market, was to have a large enough screen that a soft keyboard could be made usable by finger instead of stylus.

(Notwithstanding the third party soft keyboards such as the original landscape version from SPB in Russia, which was easy to use on even small WM touch phones.)
 
I have a friend that just went from a Blackjack to an iPhone 3GS and he can't believe how much better the virtual keyboard is over the Blackjack's physical keyboard.
 
To me the real problem is that the journalists discount the usefulness of virtual keyboards to a percentage of the population, just like you seem to discount the usefulness of a virtual keyboard (which is just as "real" as the physical keyboard, by the way).
Journalists are supposed to leave their biases at the door and not insert them into the article. Yet, this is exactly what they're doing. That's why I get annoyed when they consider the lack of a physical keyboard a negative.

Speaking of inserting bias: Please pull your head out of whatever overly defensive world it's in right now and show me where I "discount the usefulness" of anything on this thread. All I said was that some people like physical keyboards.

The implementation of the onscreen keyboard portion is awfully clumsy on these but consider some of HTCs phones, they have both methods and offer you the choice. The iPhone and the classic blackberry designs don't offer you that choice. (And I for one think both phones are better for it, being good at one thing is better than being mediocre at two). Someone who likes having a choice or who prefers the "other" method isn't going to be happy with the "wrong" phone.

I'm an iPhone owner, by the way. With no intention of changing that.
 
I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this but I can touchtype on the iPhone's keyboard.

I can do this too. In landscape or portrait (I've had landscape through jailbreak for a while) without looking at the keyboard. Of course the software cleans up mistakes, but it does that when I look as well. Maybe I just text too much :p
 
physical keyboards are amazing. I can type like 50wpm on one. Whoever decided to make an onscreen keyboard wasn't very bright. I mean the screen is for viewing and if you have your fingers all over it then that defeats the purpose. The iphone would sell way more if it had a slideout keyboard and every fanboy here would suddenly be like "man this keyboard is awesum! steve jobs FTW LOLLO!"

Actually thy wouldn't sell that many more units because of a physical keyboard. I doubt most people not buying iPhones are doing so because of physical keyboards.
 
Keyboard is fine for the bonus is screen size, but you have to concede that touch typing is thrown out the window, as you must look at the keyboard and screen constantly for all but one button press.

I disagree with this. I used to agree, in fact, I was certain I'd always be staring. Then one day after spending almost an hour instant messaging with an old friend who was almost never online while I was stuck waiting for an appointment, I realized I was doing something unthinkable.

I was typing without so much as looking at the keyboard at all!

I was so interested in the messages flowing from the other person who had no idea I was delayed in my typing from being on a phone that I had finally adapted to the virtual keyboard.

It's really quite simple, and of course, it's the reason I now hate the landscape keyboard (whoops!). I simply memorized where my fingers had to be for each key, subconsciously, and no longer have to stare. This is the same as touch typing on a physical keyboard I realized as with proper touch typing, you orient for the home keys but you do not somehow slide your fingers around the keyboard to feel where the next key is, that's preposterous.

When you touch type on a real keyboard you've simply memorized where your fingers should move relative to your original position. On the iPhone, my "home" position is the relative position of my fingers with my phone held with two hands in a specific way with my pinky fingers supporting it from the bottom and so forth.

So frankly the idea that you can't touch type on an onscreen keyboard is just yet another lie born from people's failure to realize that all interfaces besides the nipple are learned.
 
Touchscreen phones didn't have physical keyboards for many years. The combination is actually fairly recent, and was seen by most consumers as a high-end feature.

There were also alternative input methods, such as handwriting recognition, long before physical keyboards were used in combo.

What Apple was first to do in the mass consumer (not industrial) market, was to have a large enough screen that a soft keyboard could be made usable by finger instead of stylus.

(Notwithstanding the third party soft keyboards such as the original landscape version from SPB in Russia, which was easy to use on even small WM touch phones.)

Actually on all accounts Sony did this before apple with their UIQ based P series phones. The all came with attached keyboards that were optional and could be removed with a couple screws and an onscreen keyboard would replace them. The onscreen keyboard would also come on for alternate input methods.

That said, Apple's implementation is way better.
 
http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/apple-iphone-3gs/10353.html

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/17/iphone-3g-s-review/ ". While the smartphone market has cracked wide open lately, the iPhone is arguably the market leader (at least in mindshare), and really does showcase a superb platform -- lack of physical keyboard and multitasking aside."

I had a Treo 300, 600, and 650. I type way faster on the iPhone's keyboard. Do people not understand that it will make it more clumsy and requires a hardware change for every single country? I would HATE a physical keyboard, why do these reviews and many more claim it needs one?

Honestly I think what the quote you've pasted here is actually saying is that, despite the often derided lack of physical keyboard, or multitasking, iPhone is still managing to remain the market leader (at least in mindshare, as they say.) I do think think this quote is meaning to complain about the lack of keyboard or multitasking, just to refer to those common complaints and how they haven't stopped iPhone's popularity.
 
is it possible to calibrate the keyboard at all? My fingers are larger than normal (6' 5" athlete) and i'm having a tough time with this keyboard. It seems as if you have to touch above the letter not on the center of it. This is my first iphone (3GS) and i love it. Slowly I'm getting the hand of it, but I do like the physical much better.
 
I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this but I can touchtype on the iPhone's keyboard.

I was thinkning the same thing as I was reading this thread.

If Apple gave the option of a physical keyboard and an OSK, I would most certainly pick the OSK. the auto correction feature just makes it work flawlessly.
 
Also: To all the new to iPhone people, there is a slight learning curve to the keyboard. Just give it a couple weeks and you will never want to look at a phone with a physical keyboard again.
 
It's just the same 'ole anti Apple crowd. They are used to their Rimm stuff and don't want to admit they should switch...

Agreed. They are ignoring the innovation and trying to put a square peg in a round hole. The iPhone is not a Blackberry killer. They are two different devices with strengths and weaknesses for any given purpose. At work we issue HTC Tilts with WinMo for wireless e-mail. That works for some, but others are returning them to use iPhones. We call the iPhone a "convenience" e-mail device. Not for a a road warrier.
 
This is also my first iphone. One of the reasons that I didn't purchase the iPhone in the past was because of its lack of a physical keyboard. However, I just purchased an iPhone 3GS, and I am never going back to a physical keyboard! I love the virtual keyboard! I've only had this iphone for 2 days, and I am already able to type fast because of the auto-correction. I also love the fact that after texting my fingers do not hurt. Most physical keyboards are too small and stiff.
 
I would HATE a physical keyboard, why do these reviews and many more claim it needs one?

Because these reviewers are just looking to stir the pot. Hey, everyone's entitled to their opinions. There's plenty of Blackberry's sitting on the shelves. They can go get one of those!
 
because the reviewers are stupid! LOL I hate physical keyboards now!
I've always liked the virtual keyboard, and I'm happy with the iPhone's (especially the auto-correct :D ).

While there are, undoubtedly, people who just have a personal preference for physical keyboards, it would be interesting to see just how many complainers are "older people", simply ingrained with using a physical keyboard. They may just be having trouble adjusting.

(oh, and for the record: I'm likely older than most people here. :eek: )
 
Trust me, I just spent 2 weeks with a Palm Pre in addition to my trusty iPhone 3G (and now 3Gs)... maybe it's because I went from regular T9 phones (Motorola ROKR and SLVR) to the original iPhone, but the Pre's hardware keyboard sucks. I returned it because there's no way I'd ever get used to it after the iPhone.

Critics will always beat the iPhone up for having a software keyboard, but ultimately I think Apple made the right choice. It's certainly a more versatile choice, being able to switch languages on the fly and having it disappear when it's not needed. I could never go back to hardware keys now!

Wow, that's good to know. I debated the Pre and the iphone for a while. Decide Pre just too buggy and the keyboard lousy!


Keyboard is fine for the bonus is screen size, but you have to concede that touch typing is thrown out the window, as you must look at the keyboard and screen constantly for all but one button press.

I do wish, however, that we had at least two more hard buttons on the bottom; there is plenty of room. Imagine being able to assign that many more shortcuts to frequently used apps or speed dials: single click, double click or long press. It would expand the iPhone's usefulness exponentially. Not just shortcuts, but any time you needed a button to press in an app, you could use them instinctually, and not need to look at where you're pressing. This would really help with one-handed use, as well. I am specifically thinking about zooming in maps here, as I cannot zoom out with one hand.

And while we're at it, would it really kill us to have one little status light? We could see if we had any missed calls, texts or voicemails at a glance without having to pick up the phone and press a button.

This is also my first iphone. One of the reasons that I didn't purchase the iPhone in the past was because of its lack of a physical keyboard. However, I just purchased an iPhone 3GS, and I am never going back to a physical keyboard! I love the virtual keyboard! I've only had this iphone for 2 days, and I am already able to type fast because of the auto-correction. I also love the fact that after texting my fingers do not hurt. Most physical keyboards are too small and stiff.

I am making the jump from T9 to this, never used a physical keyboard on a phone. I assume because of this my adjustment is much easier. I think people just get used to things... physical keyboards have been a mainstay from the start of the smartphone.
 
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