Why do you guys believe Macs are superior so PC's?

[leman]

Wow, you got -42 votes for posting a question. If that doesn't speak bias I don't know what does. I'm a mac user and I don't for a second believe macs are superior to windows. I'm quite proficient in both worlds and I find myself missing features of either one whenever I switch at work, home or school.

Our planet works on a system almost entirely backed up by windows - our banks, our delivery companies, garbage collection, traffic systems, and the world still moves along. To a poor college student who doesn't have $999 to spend on a mac, a $299 PC is a life saver under every circumstance.

There is of course some truth in what you say, but the main reason for -42 is for posting provocative (and childish) comment on a MAC forum. You know, the same reason why I am not going to Dell forums and posting "haha, you suck for buying huge loud heavy towers with the same components as my iMac".

And btw, 999$ are just 20$ more per month compared to 299$ projected over 3 years of reasonable computer lifetime. Surely your college student has extra 20$ to spare. Could be saved by drinking few beers less

 

[Choctaw]

Yep.......market share for MS verses Mac is a good point.

Your statement has a bunch of truth............Windows has most of the business software situation in their camp. Other than hardnosed graphic players and sound/video studios, Windows has a hand on the market not because it is cheaper but MS got there first and companies have bought into their products. Replacing MS would be very expensive alone with the capability of Windows verses Apple OS.

Yes this thread has gone on and on…………with no end in sight. There will always be people who can’t just be happy saluting their particular flag. They also want the rest of us to salute that darn thing. Freedom of choice without having things shoved down our throats is what free enterprise is all about.

 

[Hey Apple!]

For my desktop, I much prefer my custom Windows gaming PC running Windows 7. For my laptop, however, I much prefer my MacBook Pro. The reasoning to that is the build quality, form factor, OSX, and the superior Apple Customer Service should my laptop fail.

 

[stueee123]

My only one gripe with OSX is that MS Office for Mac doesn't seem to run as smoothly on it as it should. I am getting intermittent crashes and that beachball icon when editing documents of 50+ pages.

Should I switch to Iworks? It should run better, presumably being optimised for Mac, but I have heard there are compatibility issues (and my workplace uses only windows). How bad is this?

I own both iWork and ms office 2011 and there is no comparison. iWork is much better at formatting, foot noting, speed and reliability. when combined with os x's natuve ability to make custom keyboard shortcuts for any action, itsvery efficient. its also incredible to have autosave and versions on lion. on top of that it's easier to use, documents look better, and you can export anything to an office file. amazing to think its cheaper too...

 

[athens]

Honestly I'm curious why you believe that Macs are better than PC's?

For the amount of money you would spend on a iMac you could build a PC with twice the specs. Hell I bet my $900 PC could outperform any of your iMacs.

The design seems to be the main selling points for Macs, why? If you have any sense you would know that performance is better than design.

I'm not trying to troll or say that Macs are bad I'm just wondering why you guys think this.

I don't believe Mac compared to a equally costing PC is any superior on a one to one comparison. A Mac compared to a budget PC is hands down on a one to one comparison. What is superior is "Apple" as the company and its entire package to any other PC company. Its not just about the computer. The computer is a big part of it, from what it is equipped with, the software it comes with like iLife. The integration between Apple Products and most important the support and customer treatment from Apple. If you just look at the computer only and compare it to a PC its not that compelling. But when you look at the customer treatment and support with it buying "Apple" leads to a superior experience and with it a superior product.

 

[thundersteele]

It's the small things that make a difference sometimes. My colleague just got his new Sony Vaio S, a 13.3'' for around $1200, so by no means cheap.

It has a 1600x900 display, blue ray and a dedicated GPU, apart from that the specs are similar to the high end 13'' MBP (2.8 GHz i7, 4GB Ram, 500 GB HDD). Now the small things that set the MBP apart:

The charger: Sony puts a huge brick in the box, which almost needs a separate bag. Of course they also sell a small one, can be ordered separately for $99.

The battery: 4400 mAh - much smaller than the 13'' MBP battery, although the laptop most likely uses more power (dedicated GPU!).

Cooling system: Air intake grids allover the bottom plate of the laptop. No protection for internals, free entry for dirt

Windows: When plugged in, the fans spin up after a while, even if the laptop is left idle. (changing to powersave profile fixes this I think)


I looked up a few reviews to get a better perspective. The laptop tests well overall, with a few issues here and there. It offers decent graphics performance, which is rare in 13'' notebooks. Display seems not so great, which kind of takes away the benefit of the high res screen.

The above are some of the things that can't really be benchmarked (except for the battery), but are part of the reason why Mac buyers usually don't regret paying a little premium, and why Apple has such a large customer retention.

 

[aarond12]

Since opinions are like ********** -- everyone has one and they all stink -- I figured I'd give my opinion.

It's the operating system. Short and sweet. How can I be so sure? My main computer at home is a home-built Core i7 Hackintosh. I have run Windows 7 on it, just to see how it would do, and the performance on the same hardware was significantly worse than Mac OS X.

Same thing on my Dell Mini 9 netbook. It runs Mac OS X 10.6.7 better than the Windows XP install that it came with. Not just a little better, but a LOT better. It doesn't even seem like the same computer when I boot Windows XP on it. (Yes, I still use Windows XP for the OBDII car diagnostic software.)

It isn't just Mac OS X, though. I got a laptop at a second-hand store with a nice, clean install of Windows on it. I erased the hard drive and put Ubuntu Linux on it. Now this 6-year-old laptop cold boots in less than 10 seconds from an EIDE hard drive, and runs like a dream. Windows on the same hardware struggled.

I had to do some video recompression on my computer at work. I started Microsoft Expressions 4 and my system was nearly unresponsive during the process with CPU utilization around 90%. At home, I compressed the same files using Handbrake, with CPU utilization around 98%, and the computer was still responsive and usable.

If Microsoft did the same thing as Apple (restricting the hardware the OS runs on), I would bet Microsoft would be able to make Windows as good if not better than Mac OS X. There are a lot of problems running on unrestricted hardware. Microsoft learned their lesson with Windows Phone 7. They restricted the hardware they would run on, and they have a great phone OS now.

IBM-compatible hardware (haven't used THAT term in a while!) has got a lot of backwards compatibility still in place. Did you know the BIOS call for starting and stopping the CASSETTE TAPE DRIVE is still functional? The IBM cassette tape drive was offered only in 1981 and 1982, but the calls are still there. Why!? Because of all those little glitches, patches, and work-arounds over the years (A20 on the 80286 anyone?), Windows runs poorly.

 

[Sandman1969]

I love these I can buy a pc for $900 that is better than your Mac.
Let me see the TOTAL specs.
Guarantee the screen won't be anywhere close to my 24" or our new 27". Not for $900. Don't forget to add the Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, the software to do everything iLife does.

Anyway, the bottom line is, it isn't about the "Specs". It is about the experience. The ecosystem.
My joy, my family's joy with how everything Apple we own interacts with each other without ANY effort is worth its weight in gold.

I know it isn't alway perfect and the statement is not 100% true and too vague.. But "It Just Works"

People pay a premium for more than just the parts. It is the total experience.

 

[D4F]

There is of course some truth in what you say, but the main reason for -42 is for posting provocative (and childish) comment on a MAC forum. You know, the same reason why I am not going to Dell forums and posting "haha, you suck for buying huge loud heavy towers with the same components as my iMac".

And btw, 999$ are just 20$ more per month compared to 299$ projected over 3 years of reasonable computer lifetime. Surely your college student has extra 20$ to spare. Could be saved by drinking few beers less

And I though OP asked a fair question around this areas cause Mac is the Godzor can be seen all over the place. Never he uses the word "suck" and other blah blah crap you fanboys put in your mouth.

Biased or not, people have way too less objectivity and are far from being conscious consumers. They just want a apple logo in most cases.

Me? I use them both. Does the job whichever the situation.

 

[leman]

And I though OP asked a fair question around this areas cause Mac is the Godzor can be seen all over the place. Never he uses the word "suck" and other blah blah crap you fanboys put in your mouth.

Biased or not, people have way too less objectivity and are far from being conscious consumers. They just want a apple logo in most cases.

Me? I use them both. Does the job whichever the situation.

We both probably talk about a different post. I clearly read it as provocative.

P.S. I don't give a damn about Apple's advertisements or foam-spitting Apple fanboys. I use Apple products not because they are "trendy" but because - after carefully evaluating the market - they are the cheapest solution which satisfies my computing needs.

 

[rdsii64]

question with a twist

Use what you like, I will use what I like and the world will still go around. Do I think Macs are better than PC's? For the things I do with my computer, yes I do.

 

[rdsii64]

Why I chose OSX over Windows

The only way to truly understand is to use a Mac for a year. Then you can genuinely compare experiences for yourself. I've seen lots of my friends and colleagues go this route and they never go back to the Windows box. If you don't try you won't know. All the Apple evangelism in the world will make little difference. Suck it and see! After twelve months your MacRumors posts will look a little different.

in 2009 my wife bought me a 24" iMac with a 2.93 dual core processor and 4 gigs of ram. I told myself I was going to turn my custom built PC into my living room gamer rig/HT computer. I can honestly say that I have turned my PC on twice since late 2009. After experiencing leopard, snow leopard and now lion, I can honestly say that when do more than talk about a HT computer it will be a mac mini. I'll buy a console to get my game on. I just don't ever see myself going back to the windows world. The folks at apple got it right by being so restrictive about what hardware their os will run on. My iMac literally runs better and faster than my quad core pc. OSX just gets out of the way. I can't remember last time I ever had a problem that the OS caused. When I install software, OSX doesn't break like windows did some times. I could go on but I think you get the point. It is what it Is.

 

[tyche]

The whole 'you paid $X for Y', I only paid '$A for B' is at best a juvenile playground type of argument.

Why did you pay $5 for that Five Guys burger? I can make my own for $2 and it tastes better (notice subjective, non winnable statements appended).

That said, I bought a very nice Dell system about 3 years ago. OMG, I didn't make it myself, there are actual companies that do this for me and I pay them to do it. To this day, I like it a lot and it holds up really well. Core i7 2.93Ghz, 12GB RAM, 60 GB SSD, Windows 7 64bit, with a really nice 23" 2048x1152 monitor. I paid close to $2,000 for this (it has a few other options).

Last year I bought the iMac 21.5" 3.6Ghz model for about the same price. The iMac really is a beautiful piece of design and it looks great in the house. I use it for xcode programming as well as having a decent unix type environment I use for scripting and work related stuff. I like how I can have bootcamp for native Windows when I need it. I expect to use this for another 2-3 years at least before even considering another computer so it's total cost of ownership is quite small to me.

I like OS X, I like how lots of software, even freeware programs, are beautifully created compared to Windows ones. One example I'm using recently is Boxer. You just can't find software like on Windows. It's like people want to write the best software they can for OS X with great UI's and easy to use while on Windows they just throw together a bunch of the same .NET widgets and make it as complicated as possible to use.

The iMac I bought is worth every penny and a joy to use.

 

[cirus]

I love these I can buy a pc for $900 that is better than your Mac.
Let me see the TOTAL specs.
Guarantee the screen won't be anywhere close to my 24" or our new 27". Not for $900. Don't forget to add the Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, the software to do everything iLife does.

Anyway, the bottom line is, it isn't about the "Specs". It is about the experience. The ecosystem.
My joy, my family's joy with how everything Apple we own interacts with each other without ANY effort is worth its weight in gold.

I know it isn't alway perfect and the statement is not 100% true and too vague.. But "It Just Works"

People pay a premium for more than just the parts. It is the total experience.

In your comparison you are forgetting one key piece.
If you don't need it don't include it!

I will say that the imac with its screen is very nicely priced. The 21 inch beats most windows compainies similar offerings.
However, it is way out of the ballpark for those who do not need that screen.

Someone who has an old desktop, and does not need a screen would not include the screen in their purchase. You don't buy a package deal if you don't need 3/4 of what is in the package. You buy it seperately. And this is where pc beats mac every time.

Likewise, including windows ultimate is irrelevant if the user never uses the extra features.

What if the pc had blu-ray? there would be no comparable mac.

All i'm saying is that when you compare something you need to take everything into account (user preferences and system limitations).

The imac is an amazing computer at a good price with its screen but if you need a good computer but would never pay $700 for a screen it is irrelevant to you that it has such a screen (most people don't pony up $700 for their monitor).
The problem is that apple does not offer a decent desktop class computer that would fit most people. (ie. not an all in one). Laptops are AMAZING, but desktops, oh boy, need something between the low powered mini, the all in one imac and the expensive as hell mac pro.

I agree with you when you say that the usability 'experience' can be important. However, we forget that the reason we buy these products is to get work done. Each person is different and a different setup works best for different people.

 

[inscrewtable]

I spent 45 mins last night dragging this big ass lump of driftwood that washed up on the beach 300 metres to my house. It was not easy. Why? Because it's nice to look at.

I'm hanging out for the new ivy bridge imac next year, I'll get it delivered.

 

[Unkei]

Hi!

When I worked doing translations, they made me use Office for Mac and I hated it.

NeoOffice isn't really Office, but it's as snappy as it should be, free, and it's not as "iOSy" as Pages... (I like the other iWork solutions, though). Give it a try.

Unfortunately not free anymore. $10 for US download.
Unkei

 

[MaggieNoodle]

Why I don’t like Macs!
This will be a conglomerate of things which are constantly said by Mac users and things on the Apple website which I do not agree with.
Concerning Mac OS X…
“Mac OSX is the most powerful operating software in the world” I do not agree with this statement. There exists an OS called UNIX. UNIX is similar to Linux- it’s free, it’s basically open source and you can write your own programs for it. However, UNIX is even more obscure than Linux. OSX’s core code is UNIX. So in other terms, the ‘most powerful operating software in the world’, is 17 year old FreeBSD code with a fancy User Interface. Many people claim Macs, along with OSX, are more stable than a PC running Windows 7. A positive and sometimes overwhelming part of PCs is that it is very flexible when it comes to configuration and specification. Windows is also incredibly good at handling this vast array of Hardware. Consider if you will a variety of combinations of just 250,000 different pieces of hardware in 1 million different systems. The possible different combinations within each PC are massive. Windows 7 has done an especially good job at managing this huge hardware base and remaining stable. The reason macs seem to run more stably is that the OS expects only a small array of Hardware and knows exactly how to use these hardware sets. Much like a console. Is this impressive, or just a happy fact of the matter? In comparison, Windows 7 and PCs in general have hundreds of thousands of programs written for them, and it is able to handle them. Of course you can overwhelm a PC with a multitude of programs doing various things, but then, you can also overwhelm a Mac… My point is that OSX is old, obscure code designed to do a few things very well, while Windows 7 is designed to be compatible with the thousands of programs written for it. When you know what you are doing and you keep your computer and programs updated, Windows will run just as stably as a Mac.

“Macs don’t crash”

*sigh*… Every system in the world does down, even supercomputers crash. A Mac is no different. It doesn’t take much to confuse a computer. The human race is imperfect, and coders make mistakes. A simply problem such as a byte reallocating to a memory address which doesn’t exist, or buffer overflow writing to unallocated memory will cause any computer to crash. When a MAC crashes: The whole computer freezes and you have to reboot. When a Windows 7 program crashes: The crashed program will go white and a window will appear asking you to wait or close it. But the OS is unaffected and you can keep working without restarting.
If you still believe your Mac is impervious to crashing, look it up on the internet and you will find many examples. Just to name a few: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXU1_B92dZ8 ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqKNNLadj_M&feature=related

“Macs don’t get viruses!”

Macs can, Macs have, and Macs will in the future continue to get viruses. The thing you must remember is that OSX is technically obscure UNIX code, and only about 5% of the world market share is Mac computers. If you wanted to severely hamper businesses, schools, steal information, or just all around be malicious, why write a virus for an obscure OS that only hipsters and rich Americans use? Just in case you still don’t believe Macs can get viruses… http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthony...-x-and-linux-steals-passwords-and-keystrokes/

In reality it is very simple to avoid viruses. If you know what you are doing, and you don’t download every file you see on the internet you really will not get a virus. And if you’re really scared, you can get free anti-virus software from Microsoft.

“All Flash Architecture”

Every single computer in the world is all flash architecture. Everything is instantaneous, through electrical messages and coded signals. The only way to be more flash oriented is to have a Solid State Hard Drive. (SSD) an SSD is essentially a giant USB, which means there is no spinning disk. Both Mac and PCs have these hard drives, although they only have maximum 512GB (so far…) However only the highest end Macbooks and Mac pros have these SSDs. Otherwise they too have a traditional hard drive.

“Macs look better than PCs!”

This is purely based on opinion. Apple has some very clever marketing schemes which makes many people adore the look of their products. However, in my opinion, macs turn the computer using world into a load of carbon copy people walking around getting worse and worse at computing because it makes everything so mind numbingly simple you don't have to use your brain. Surely it can't be fashionable to conform so much?

“Microsoft steals ideas. Windows, and most of its features are stolen”

Why? Windows was coded from scratch by a team of developers working for Microsoft. Compare this to MacOS which is based on a BSD Kernel. So Apple basically took an Open Source OS Kernel, added on extra features, and distributed it on its machines. However, what most people don't know is that you can actually download the basic BSD OS that Macs run! It's called Darwin and you can run it on just any PC! http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/

So tell me, which OS is more "Stolen"? The OS coded from the ground up, or the OS scraped together from bits and pieces of Open Source software such as a BSD Kernel?”

Another thing to keep in mind is that in 1995, Microsoft bailed out Apple with 150 million dollars. They saved Apple. They also had much discussion with patents and software and this is where Office for Mac came from which is really what legitimized the reason for purchasing a mac beyond staring at the apple on the back of it. The company you despise is also the company which enabled you to have all the Apple products you absolutely adore. Apple owes all of its success to Microsoft.

Apple is really against stealing software and ideas. Just a few examples:

“Slide to unlock, right?” –Windows CE Phone had this function, 2 years before iPhone.

“Notification bar!” –announced in Android 1.0, 3 years before the iPhone.

"Tablet computing!" -Bill Gates introduced a tablet in 2002. Nobody cared. Apple introduced the iPad (bloated iTouch) and the world shook like an excited dog.

“Siri!” –Xiaoi Bot, Chinese virtual assistant introduced in 2010 on Android.

Even the iconic iTunes adverts – Black silhouette with the white Apple earbuds- was taken from the Lugz Shoes fall 2002 commercial.

“We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas” –Triumph of the nerds (1996)

“I’m going to destroy Android because it’s a stolen product. I’m willing to go thermo-nuclear war on this” – Steve Jobs (2011)


You can get a PC superior in every single way than that a Mac for half the price.

Honestly, if you read this entire thing and still believe your overpriced, overbloated and incredibly overrated piece of aluminium is still superior simply because 'it just works', then you are now an honorary member of the Apple cult. The iSheep.

iSheep: A follower of the Apple cult regardless of the usefulness or real worth of the product. Believes without question the cult propaganda which instills the almost mythological belief that what they have just bought is the fastest or most user friendly product ever, only to be re-sold the same product, with a few minor tweaks, a few months later with the same rhetoric and complete disregard for reality. Easily mislead by their own egos and think they are being unique and innovative. Often wrong but convinced they are correct.






Intel Core i7 4Ghz
12GB Corsair DIMM DDR3
Crossfire Ati Radeon 6870 (x2 GPU)
1200W PSU
1TB Hard Disk
Liquid Cooling
EVGA X58 SLI3 Hyperthreaded motherboard

 

[Dduval]

Why I don’t like Macs!
This will be a conglomerate of things which are constantly said by Mac users and things on the Apple website which I do not agree with.
Concerning Mac OS X…
“Mac OSX is the most powerful operating software in the world” I do not agree with this statement. There exists an OS called UNIX. UNIX is similar to Linux- it’s free, it’s basically open source and you can write your own programs for it. However, UNIX is even more obscure than Linux. OSX’s core code is UNIX. So in other terms, the ‘most powerful operating software in the world’, is 17 year old FreeBSD code with a fancy User Interface. Many people claim Macs, along with OSX, are more stable than a PC running Windows 7. A positive and sometimes overwhelming part of PCs is that it is very flexible when it comes to configuration and specification. Windows is also incredibly good at handling this vast array of Hardware. Consider if you will a variety of combinations of just 250,000 different pieces of hardware in 1 million different systems. The possible different combinations within each PC are massive. Windows 7 has done an especially good job at managing this huge hardware base and remaining stable. The reason macs seem to run more stably is that the OS expects only a small array of Hardware and knows exactly how to use these hardware sets. Much like a console. Is this impressive, or just a happy fact of the matter? In comparison, Windows 7 and PCs in general have hundreds of thousands of programs written for them, and it is able to handle them. Of course you can overwhelm a PC with a multitude of programs doing various things, but then, you can also overwhelm a Mac… My point is that OSX is old, obscure code designed to do a few things very well, while Windows 7 is designed to be compatible with the thousands of programs written for it. When you know what you are doing and you keep your computer and programs updated, Windows will run just as stably as a Mac.

“Macs don’t crash”

*sigh*… Every system in the world does down, even supercomputers crash. A Mac is no different. It doesn’t take much to confuse a computer. The human race is imperfect, and coders make mistakes. A simply problem such as a byte reallocating to a memory address which doesn’t exist, or buffer overflow writing to unallocated memory will cause any computer to crash. When a MAC crashes: The whole computer freezes and you have to reboot. When a Windows 7 program crashes: The crashed program will go white and a window will appear asking you to wait or close it. But the OS is unaffected and you can keep working without restarting.
If you still believe your Mac is impervious to crashing, look it up on the internet and you will find many examples. Just to name a few: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXU1_B92dZ8 ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqKNNLadj_M&feature=related

“Macs don’t get viruses!”

Macs can, Macs have, and Macs will in the future continue to get viruses. The thing you must remember is that OSX is technically obscure UNIX code, and only about 5% of the world market share is Mac computers. If you wanted to severely hamper businesses, schools, steal information, or just all around be malicious, why write a virus for an obscure OS that only hipsters and rich Americans use? Just in case you still don’t believe Macs can get viruses… http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthony...-x-and-linux-steals-passwords-and-keystrokes/

In reality it is very simple to avoid viruses. If you know what you are doing, and you don’t download every file you see on the internet you really will not get a virus. And if you’re really scared, you can get free anti-virus software from Microsoft.

“All Flash Architecture”

Every single computer in the world is all flash architecture. Everything is instantaneous, through electrical messages and coded signals. The only way to be more flash oriented is to have a Solid State Hard Drive. (SSD) an SSD is essentially a giant USB, which means there is no spinning disk. Both Mac and PCs have these hard drives, although they only have maximum 512GB (so far…) However only the highest end Macbooks and Mac pros have these SSDs. Otherwise they too have a traditional hard drive.

“Macs look better than PCs!”

This is purely based on opinion. Apple has some very clever marketing schemes which makes many people adore the look of their products. However, in my opinion, macs turn the computer using world into a load of carbon copy people walking around getting worse and worse at computing because it makes everything so mind numbingly simple you don't have to use your brain. Surely it can't be fashionable to conform so much?

“Microsoft steals ideas. Windows, and most of its features are stolen”

Why? Windows was coded from scratch by a team of developers working for Microsoft. Compare this to MacOS which is based on a BSD Kernel. So Apple basically took an Open Source OS Kernel, added on extra features, and distributed it on its machines. However, what most people don't know is that you can actually download the basic BSD OS that Macs run! It's called Darwin and you can run it on just any PC! http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/

So tell me, which OS is more "Stolen"? The OS coded from the ground up, or the OS scraped together from bits and pieces of Open Source software such as a BSD Kernel?”

Another thing to keep in mind is that in 1995, Microsoft bailed out Apple with 150 million dollars. They saved Apple. They also had much discussion with patents and software and this is where Office for Mac came from which is really what legitimized the reason for purchasing a mac beyond staring at the apple on the back of it. The company you despise is also the company which enabled you to have all the Apple products you absolutely adore. Apple owes all of its success to Microsoft.

Apple is really against stealing software and ideas. Just a few examples:

“Slide to unlock, right?” –Windows CE Phone had this function, 2 years before iPhone.

“Notification bar!” –announced in Android 1.0, 3 years before the iPhone.

"Tablet computing!" -Bill Gates introduced a tablet in 2002. Nobody cared. Apple introduced the iPad (bloated iTouch) and the world shook like an excited dog.

“Siri!” –Xiaoi Bot, Chinese virtual assistant introduced in 2010 on Android.

Even the iconic iTunes adverts – Black silhouette with the white Apple earbuds- was taken from the Lugz Shoes fall 2002 commercial.

“We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas” –Triumph of the nerds (1996)

“I’m going to destroy Android because it’s a stolen product. I’m willing to go thermo-nuclear war on this” – Steve Jobs (2011)


You can get a PC superior in every single way than that a Mac for half the price.

Honestly, if you read this entire thing and still believe your overpriced, overbloated and incredibly overrated piece of aluminium is still superior simply because 'it just works', then you are now an honorary member of the Apple cult. The iSheep.

iSheep: A follower of the Apple cult regardless of the usefulness or real worth of the product. Believes without question the cult propaganda which instills the almost mythological belief that what they have just bought is the fastest or most user friendly product ever, only to be re-sold the same product, with a few minor tweaks, a few months later with the same rhetoric and complete disregard for reality. Easily mislead by their own egos and think they are being unique and innovative. Often wrong but convinced they are correct.






Intel Core i7 4Ghz
12GB Corsair DIMM DDR3
Crossfire Ati Radeon 6870 (x2 GPU)
1200W PSU
1TB Hard Disk
Liquid Cooling
EVGA X58 SLI3 Hyperthreaded motherboard

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[12dylan34]

Why I don’t like Macs!...

Cool, you resurrected a 7 month old thread on a Mac lovers forum to tell everyone why you think that Macs suck.

This is a community of rational people that understand that PCs of the same specs can be had for much cheaper, but still prefer Macs for one reason or another. We aren't delusional idiots that think that we're living in some sort of magical ecosystem as Apple would have us believe. I don't feel compelled to go onto a Windows forum and tell them why I think that Windows sucks. Leave people to use what they wish.

My Mac is perfectly suitable for doing 3D and 2D motion graphic design, and I'm heavily invested in the Mac platform in terms of workflow and software. I've had only minor issues with hardware, which the Apple store fixed within hours and for free.

There are reasons, such as excellent resale value that Macs are superior, but you probably won't be back to check your quote notifications, so I won't bother going into it all.

 

[SR20DETDOG]

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Party pooper

“Macs don’t crash”

When a MAC crashes: The whole computer freezes and you have to reboot. When a Windows 7 program crashes: The crashed program will go white and a window will appear asking you to wait or close it. But the OS is unaffected and you can keep working without restarting.

I'm not saying this is entirely wrong, but it is certainly untrue when stated as a fact. That may be your experience, but every ones' is different, personally it has only been Windows that has forced me to reboot from things crashing whereas since owning my Mac I've only ever had to force quit the individual programs.

“Macs look better than PCs!”

This is purely based on opinion. Apple has some very clever marketing schemes which makes many people adore the look of their products. However, in my opinion, macs turn the computer using world into a load of carbon copy people walking around getting worse and worse at computing because it makes everything so mind numbingly simple you don't have to use your brain. Surely it can't be fashionable to conform so much?

From a design point of view they are better looking, not the best certainly, but I think you'll find majority of regular people would consider the average Mac more aesthetically pleasing than the average windows machine.

You can get a PC superior in every single way than that a Mac for half the price.

things which are constantly said by Mac users

Hmm

Not bothering replying to the other points since I tend to agree more on those, and some I just don't care about (stealling/lawsuits etc).

Honestly, if you read this entire thing and still believe your overpriced, overbloated and incredibly overrated piece of aluminium is still superior simply because 'it just works', then you are now an honorary member of the Apple cult. The iSheep.

I guess I'm an isheep then.

I'm quite happy with my purchase considering I got everything I wanted easily and without problems. But thank you for letting me know that a purchases' worth is purely based on how technically advanced it is and paying more for any other reason is stupid.

 

[12dylan34]

why write a virus for an obscure OS that only hipsters and rich Americans use?

Lol...I just posted a rebuttal previously, but this is ludicrous. I guess if 8.5% of the U.S. population is hipsters and rich people.

It's also funny that almost 1/4 of the population is still using XP, an 11 year old OS. Again, you probably won't be back, but I feel compelled to reply.

Maybe I'll go flame the satin sheet forums because I'm a devout cotton sheet user. After all, it keeps me just as warm for 1/2 the price.

 

[iphonedude2008]

I use it for iOS programming so i need Xcode.

 

[ChrisMan287]

Maybe I'll go flame the satin sheet forums because I'm a devout cotton sheet user. After all, it keeps me just as warm for 1/2 the price.

You have a life. Don't do that.

 

[thejadedmonkey]

There is of course some truth in what you say, but the main reason for -42 is for posting provocative (and childish) comment on a MAC forum. You know, the same reason why I am not going to Dell forums and posting "haha, you suck for buying huge loud heavy towers with the same components as my iMac".

And btw, 999$ are just 20$ more per month compared to 299$ projected over 3 years of reasonable computer lifetime. Surely your college student has extra 20$ to spare. Could be saved by drinking few beers less

You're not in college, and I assume not working minimum wage at a part time job, are you? Because $20 is a week's worth of food if I was being frugal.

 

[leman]

You're not in college, and I assume not working minimum wage at a part time job, are you? Because $20 is a week's worth of food if I was being frugal.

I am a PhD student, employed 50% and working 150%. I live in one of the most expensive cities in the world, where I have to pay 1200$ per month for my 25m2 apartment. Do you really think I got any money to waste? And frankly, I have no idea about US economy or prices because I never been to the place, but where I live 20$ is worth two meals in the student cafeteria.