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Why do you hate the Beatles?
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The Beatles are the most overrated rock band in history.
Which isn't to say I hate or even dislike them. But the hype surrounding them is monstrous.
Which isn't to say I hate or even dislike them. But the hype surrounding them is monstrous.
Unfortunately, he doesn't do that any more. They've got a new bloke in, albeit one who also has a Scouse accent.
I love The Beatles. But I laughed when I saw the amount of negatives for this morning's MR news article.
As of now:
Rating (353 Positives; 1807 Negatives)
We geeks expect a lot out of Apple.
As of now:
Rating (353 Positives; 1807 Negatives)
We geeks expect a lot out of Apple.
We may be showing our age.
When I talk to younger people about the Beatles and the Stones (I used to teach guitar for years), some of the kids prefer newer bands I have almost no knowledge about.
While I love the Beatles, bands that got that type of reaction from me were mostly from the 1970s like Pink Floyd, the Eagles, and of course solo material from former Beatles. A couple exceptions of artists or bands I really liked after 1980 who had legendary releases have been U2, Michael Jackson, Nirvana, and just a few others. Classic rock and soul do it for me most of the time and I tend towards Detroit and the British Invasion, thank you.
While I know a lot of music critics like Oasis, and have drawn comparisons to the Beatles, I just never got on the Oasis train. But recently I saw a youtube on Tomorrow Never Knows done by Oasis and they were incredible. Another band from that period I really need to listen to is Radiohead.
For new bands, I can't think of any, long term, who will be as relevant as the Beatles. I put the Beatles on a short list (from the first two decades of rock and roll) with Chuck Berry, Elvis, the Stones, Diana Ross, the Temptations, and the Beach Boys. But as time moves forward, and people's tastes change, the Beatles will be a largely unknown band when I sing their praises.
My dad and his generation used to rave about Sinatra, Glenn Miller, Benny Goodman, and Billie Holiday and how their music would be remembered forever and overshadow this rock and roll I liked. It wasn't until many years later did I realize that those classic acts of the '30s and '40s were as good, if not or better, than anything I ever worshiped in the rock and roll genre.
It's all relative and all I really care about is that I liked the Beatles and I won't waste my time trying to turn a new generation onto them if they are intent on Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, the Jonas Brothers, or some death metal act who all sound the same to me.
George Carlin was shockingly good at it (I thought), but it sounds better in Scouse.
i like the beatles because they wrote their songs and played their own instruments.
well i like singers and bands that write their songs and play their instruments.
it is debatable that there are better songwriters. the beatles influenced others to write (i guess).
i rather care less for some modern "singers" or "bands" that don't write their songs or play instruments.
well i like singers and bands that write their songs and play their instruments.
it is debatable that there are better songwriters. the beatles influenced others to write (i guess).
i rather care less for some modern "singers" or "bands" that don't write their songs or play instruments.
Because they have more than four legs, and are hard to kill. Oh, and they're just plain icky.
Oh, you mean the band! I don't hate them, I just don't like them. I actually just started getting into more instrumental/classical music (love anything with the violin).
Oh, you mean the band! I don't hate them, I just don't like them. I actually just started getting into more instrumental/classical music (love anything with the violin).
While I'm admittedly not a big Beatles fan (I'm more of a Synthpop/Electronic type of guy), I can appreciate their ability to compose and record memorable pop tunes. Thus, no "hate" from me.
Oh, and I never got into Oasis either, although I do occasionally enjoy some early U2.
Oh, and I never got into Oasis either, although I do occasionally enjoy some early U2.
We may be showing our age.
When I talk to younger people about the Beatles and the Stones (I used to teach guitar for years), some of the kids prefer newer bands I have almost no knowledge about.
While I love the Beatles, bands that got that type of reaction from me were mostly from the 1970s like Pink Floyd, the Eagles, and of course solo material from former Beatles. A couple exceptions of artists or bands I really liked after 1980 who had legendary releases have been U2, Michael Jackson, Nirvana, and just a few others. Classic rock and soul do it for me most of the time and I tend towards Detroit and the British Invasion, thank you.
While I know a lot of music critics like Oasis, and have drawn comparisons to the Beatles, I just never got on the Oasis train. But recently I saw a youtube on Tomorrow Never Knows done by Oasis and they were incredible. Another band from that period I really need to listen to is Radiohead.
For new bands, I can't think of any, long term, who will be as relevant as the Beatles. I put the Beatles on a short list (from the first two decades of rock and roll) with Chuck Berry, Elvis, the Stones, Diana Ross, the Temptations, and the Beach Boys. But as time moves forward, and people's tastes change, the Beatles will be a largely unknown band when I sing their praises.
My dad and his generation used to rave about Sinatra, Glenn Miller, Benny Goodman, and Billie Holiday and how their music would be remembered forever and overshadow this rock and roll I liked. It wasn't until many years later did I realize that those classic acts of the '30s and '40s were as good, if not or better, than anything I ever worshiped in the rock and roll genre.
It's all relative and all I really care about is that I liked the Beatles and I won't waste my time trying to turn a new generation onto them if they are intent on Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, the Jonas Brothers, or some death metal act who all sound the same to me.
Well, I'm only 22, but I agree with just about everything you said. There are still plenty of great bands out there from the past 20 years or so that are putting out great music. Dave Matthews Band and Pearl Jam are a couple that come to mind. You still can't really compare them with the Beatles and such, because nobody knows what people will think of these guys in another 20 years.
I just think it's pretty pathetic where "popular" music has gone in the past 10 years or so. All of that Lady Gaga/Jonas Brothers crap, thats not real music. I feel sorry for a lot of people my age, but especially the kids who are in their teens now.
Don't bother feeling sorry. This is a new era, with new tools. A teenager with a smidgen of musical talent, GarageBand and a two-octave USB MIDI controller can now make music with quality rivalling major studios-- and market his/her productions, including promotional videos, directly on the Internet.
That's what has the established music industry in such a tizzy-- it faces utter obsolescence.
Now, I'm no big Gaga fan, but she does write her songs and play instruments, and has a controlling interest in the production and her image. Sure, a good bit of it's manufactured, but **she** controls the manufacturing. Now Ke$ha, on the other hand...
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After I am long gone (I am a baby boomer), I wonder what bands or artists history will remember. My guess from my youth in the late 60s to late 70s will be the Beatles and Michael Jackson more than anybody in that era.
But I wouldn't be surprised if 50 years from now the most legendary and most remembered stars of that ten year period were Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash, and the Rolling Stones. It's really anybody's guess.
As far as sheer album sales, the soundtrack from Saturday Night Fever in the 1970s was unchallenged and had a profound influence on pop culture which lasts to this day. It wasn't until Micheal Jackson's Thriller in the 1980s that an album/CD would sell that well. In fact, Michael's sales doubled that of the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack.
I love Pearl Jam and I can't imagine them being remembered like the Beatles but who really knows. They certainly came in as part of an invasion from Seattle which was really big for a time along with Nirvana, Soundgarden, and Alice in Chains.
I don't hate The Beatles - I just take issue when people go on and on about how influential they were. I've had people tell me "Oh, The Beatles changed the face of music!" "The Beatles gave us all the effects and styles we have today!" "The Beatles blah blah blah" when in fact they were simply very a popular pop group, nothing more. Paul could only write jingles, and John was a monster in real life with no sense of melody. Starkey and Harrison did better on their own, when they could put together a listenable, tuneful song.
And the whole Apple "A day you'll never forget" tripe is a load of crap.
I don't hate the group, but I can't stand the magnitude of hype surrounding them.
And the whole Apple "A day you'll never forget" tripe is a load of crap.
I don't hate the group, but I can't stand the magnitude of hype surrounding them.