lol. That is absolutely not a fair comparison. Not saying the N1 might be better anyway, but that's an awful comparison. I've never bought a second battery for a phone, I feel bad for those people that might actually need one. However, I absolutely wouldn't.
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Why does everyone hate how iPhone doesn't have a user-replaceable battery?
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lol. That is absolutely not a fair comparison. Not saying the N1 might be better anyway, but that's an awful comparison. I've never bought a second battery for a phone, I feel bad for those people that might actually need one. However, I absolutely wouldn't.
The point was if I encounter the same issue with the N1 I can fix it for $25. Can't say the same thing with the 3GS. Many people see no need for a second battery. Maybe I am the exception. When traveling I always like the option of having a spare battery charged and ready. I have been stranded in an airport, ran the phone battery down to nothing (working with the airlines to get alternative reservations), with no plugs available.
When traveling with the iphone, with the crappy battery life I currently experience, I can only get through the day if I shut all data down and only use the phone for only calls.
I'm hoping the new iphone lives up to the rumors and has a larger battery.
When traveling with the iphone, with the crappy battery life I currently experience, I can only get through the day if I shut all data down and only use the phone for only calls.
I'm hoping the new iphone lives up to the rumors and has a larger battery.
agree.
i wouldnt mind the option of being able to open the back cover by the screws and replacing the batteries ourselves (without voiding warranty) though.
but i hate phones with flimsy back cases that come off if you drop it. the all in one look of the iPhone is perfect, and shouldnt be changed.
i wouldnt mind the option of being able to open the back cover by the screws and replacing the batteries ourselves (without voiding warranty) though.
but i hate phones with flimsy back cases that come off if you drop it. the all in one look of the iPhone is perfect, and shouldnt be changed.
I don't think there's much truth to the claim that a non-replaceable battery saves space or allows a larger battery. Other phones are as thin or thinner and can have larger batteries.
Agreed, the problem of dropping and flying apart is definitely there if you're the dropsy type. A case with screws would solve that.
I use swappable batteries all the time. Every week my wife forgets to charge her phone, so thank goodness I always have a spare charged and ready to go for her.
For myself, I sometimes use a phone all day and by evening it's almost dead. No problem with swappable batteries... just pop in the charged spare and I'm good all night while my buddies without spares are dead in the water.
I do think that people without swappable batteries often limit themselves, perhaps without noticing, to actions that extend the phone all day.
Agreed, the problem of dropping and flying apart is definitely there if you're the dropsy type. A case with screws would solve that.
I use swappable batteries all the time. Every week my wife forgets to charge her phone, so thank goodness I always have a spare charged and ready to go for her.
For myself, I sometimes use a phone all day and by evening it's almost dead. No problem with swappable batteries... just pop in the charged spare and I'm good all night while my buddies without spares are dead in the water.
I do think that people without swappable batteries often limit themselves, perhaps without noticing, to actions that extend the phone all day.
I use these. I get 3 full charges of my phone per battery (I have 2 batteries). That's when my phone hits 20% roughly. If I am using the phone while charging, I can get an extra 4-6 hours per battery depending on how heavy I am using the phone. If I turn it off and let it charge, it's full charge in no time. You can see they are pretty small when compared to the phone. About the same thickness too.
The batteries can charge ANY USB device that will allow it. The batteries can be charged by the wall charger (APC's or iPhones will work) or via any powered USB port on a computer, car, cable box or the like.
Rarely do I have to use them but they have helped quite a few times when I could not charge via normal methods or the power was out. Very handy to have.
I could care less about a user replaceable battery. At least with these batteries, I can charge them without being in the phone or dock unlike most replaceable batteries.
The batteries can charge ANY USB device that will allow it. The batteries can be charged by the wall charger (APC's or iPhones will work) or via any powered USB port on a computer, car, cable box or the like.
Rarely do I have to use them but they have helped quite a few times when I could not charge via normal methods or the power was out. Very handy to have.
I could care less about a user replaceable battery. At least with these batteries, I can charge them without being in the phone or dock unlike most replaceable batteries.
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Point taken, but if you're in that much of a need, wouldn't you just keep a back up battery source handy? I'm sure you know of the multitude of options out there. Maybe not as ideal as simply swapping the battery out, but if it's a big issue for you then there are some solutions out there.
my experiences with removable batteries:
toshiba laptop with 2 batteries, it was a pain keeping them both charged, and to swap batteries, I had to shut the laptop down. A separate charger for the laptop's extra battery was prohibitively expensive and would be rendered obsolete when I got a new laptop.
Palm Treo 680, also had two batteries with it. Both batteries were equally bad on capacity. It was a pain keeping them both charged again and carrying around the extra battery was quite cumbersome. In the end, it was just too much of a problem and the phone crashed frequently too. Extra chargers were also pricey and only worked with the particular phone.
my experiences with sealed batteries:
iphone battery lasts longer, never really had a problem with running out of power. Also already had a ton of iphone chargers thanks to previous ipod purchases. Since I had a lot of classes in a computer lab, the USB ports on the computers served as really convenient charging ports for my iphone.
Later on, got myself an external battery pack, works great, I can charge it together with my iphone or independently via a standard usb port. Carrying around the external pack isn't much more cumbersome than a spare battery. In addition, thanks to the dock connector, with future iphone purchases, all my chargers now are still compatible and work great.
that same external battery pack also works with the ipad, ipod touch, ipod classic, ipod nano...
Sealed batteries are terrific if they're well supported.
toshiba laptop with 2 batteries, it was a pain keeping them both charged, and to swap batteries, I had to shut the laptop down. A separate charger for the laptop's extra battery was prohibitively expensive and would be rendered obsolete when I got a new laptop.
Palm Treo 680, also had two batteries with it. Both batteries were equally bad on capacity. It was a pain keeping them both charged again and carrying around the extra battery was quite cumbersome. In the end, it was just too much of a problem and the phone crashed frequently too. Extra chargers were also pricey and only worked with the particular phone.
my experiences with sealed batteries:
iphone battery lasts longer, never really had a problem with running out of power. Also already had a ton of iphone chargers thanks to previous ipod purchases. Since I had a lot of classes in a computer lab, the USB ports on the computers served as really convenient charging ports for my iphone.
Later on, got myself an external battery pack, works great, I can charge it together with my iphone or independently via a standard usb port. Carrying around the external pack isn't much more cumbersome than a spare battery. In addition, thanks to the dock connector, with future iphone purchases, all my chargers now are still compatible and work great.
that same external battery pack also works with the ipad, ipod touch, ipod classic, ipod nano...
Sealed batteries are terrific if they're well supported.
Would have liked a replaceable battery before the iPad. Did a few trips that I was desperately looking for a socket at an airport to charge up my iPhone 1G. Hated looking like a refuge sitting on the floor next to a socket. 
lol
Would have preferred swapping batteries....
lolWould have preferred swapping batteries....
My point was theapplegeek posted that only by a sealed battery are you going to have a beautiful sleek design. The N1 has nice lines, a user replaceable battery that is easily changed.
My N1's battery lasts as long as my old iPhone ever did and that is even more surprising given Job's stance on multitasking kills batteries.
So I get the same battery with multitasking, a beautifully designed phone that I don't need to visit an apple store to swap batteries. The cost is also much much less then what apple is charging.
I have considered other solutions for the battery to recharge it. The only thing that has stopped me is that I don't want anything specific to the iphone, as I upgrade every year. Anything that is model specific is out. Blown too much money on those kind of things only to have them be useless when I get another phone. (I'd rather just blow my money on phones)
Some of the aux battery chargers that I have seen in this thread are not iphone specific, and are things that I would consider purchasing.
Some of the aux battery chargers that I have seen in this thread are not iphone specific, and are things that I would consider purchasing.
Yes. I check RSS feeds 3 times during the day and will have maybe 30 minutes of phone conversations. It never used to be this bad. Taken it into Apple and they give me the canned response - normal battery usage.
Most days it is 2 times a day, but as of late it has moved to 3. It is getting worse.
Most days it is 2 times a day, but as of late it has moved to 3. It is getting worse.
Totally agree. My N1 has as sleek (or sleeker) design and feels better in the hand than my 3GS. Main issue with the N1 is the keyboard. The iphone keyboard blows away the N1 - there is no comparison.
Mostly because you are not going to hear from people who don't complain about the battery. For me, the built in battery is just fine--just like my electric shaver.
I believe the reason for that is that this is a problem that hits a limited number of apple handsets. My son has a 3GS and has not had issues with battery life. They were bought on the same day. My wife has my old 3G, which has a bigger battery, that is almost 2 years old and she has no battery issues. Just me.
Mostly because you are not going to hear from people who don't complain about the battery. For me, the built in battery is just fine--just like my electric shaver.
I like the battery on the iPhone the way it is now. I think a removable battery would just add unnecessary bulk to the phone.
Irish Rose if you ever get a chance to hold a Nexus 1, take a look at how they did the battery door. Best battery door I have ever had. No creaks of any type. Also the N1 is thinner than the iphone. So HTC has figured out how to do it. The first time that I removed the battery door I was afraid I would break the phone. Those not familiar with the phone would never know that the back cover comes off.
Even if there were some screws that could be removed to allow user replacement of the battery without voiding the warranty, I would be happy.
It's a far cry from the Treo's that I owned.
Even if there were some screws that could be removed to allow user replacement of the battery without voiding the warranty, I would be happy.
It's a far cry from the Treo's that I owned.
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I like my Mophie Juice Pack Air just fine thank you very much. It protects the phone, works fine, it allows my to free myself of the proprietary iPhone connector in favor of micro-USB, and I never lose work when swapping batteries. If I don't need it, I have the slim iPhone on its own.
Just like a replaceable battery (which, by the way, is not free), but accomplishes more, and it's always with the phone....
I like my Mophie Juice Pack Air just fine thank you very much. It protects the phone, works fine, it allows my to free myself of the proprietary iPhone connector in favor of micro-USB, and I never lose work when swapping batteries. If I don't need it, I have the slim iPhone on its own.
Just like a replaceable battery (which, by the way, is not free), but accomplishes more, and it's always with the phone....
I don't really know anyone that has the Nexus one, but I have seen the HTC Incredible, and it is thin even though it has a removable battery. I think Apple could do it if they wanted to.
If they're not doing it for their laptops, ipods and ipads they will not do it for the iphone either I would think.
I'm still using my original iPhone with the original battery. Never had a problem with either. Not bad for 3 years.
I'm still using my original iPhone with the original battery. Never had a problem with either. Not bad for 3 years.
If you got three years out of your battery, that is great. The max that I have gotten on any of my cell phones was 2 years.