Because battery life is a good selling point. Like every other business does they are selling a product......How can you not know this?
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Why doesn't Apple have to post all the Specs (specifically RAM)?
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Because battery life is a good selling point. Like every other business does they are selling a product......How can you not know this?
RAM is a good selling point and it's the only reason I won't be buying this year's model!
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iPhones have notoriously poor battery life and yet Apple quote this every year, erroneously it must be said. Nobody ever gets the quoted spec.
Do you want to know what's really pathetic; quad core Samsungs getting stomped in benchmarks by dual core iPhones with 1gb of ram.
The point he is making is...
Having numerous tabs open in iOS is doable yes.. however due to the low amount of RAM, iOS is constantly removing those tabs from memory thus causing the browser to reload the page when you go to use that tab again. If the iPhone had more RAM then this would in theory allow tabs to remain in memory without iOS feeling the need to free this RAM up prematurely. I have encountered this problem too many times to count using my iPad, its extremely annoying... e.g. writing a forum post in one tab then using afew other tabs to find some links to paste into my forum post and voila, Mobile Safari has decided to reload the forum post page...
Good point.....But this has happen to me many times on my GS4 and that has 2 gigs of ram.....So I guess were just gonna have to wait for a 8 gig phone to come for us all.
There's no regulation, anywhere, that says what technical requirements have to be listed. They show what they show. You can choose to buy it with the info given, or not.
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No, it's not the RAM. We've had web browsers on desktop computers for years, some of which run on 1GB of RAM or less, and they didn't have to reload. And on Yosemite, it's very clear that at most, a fully rendered tab on Safari typically takes up 40-80 megabytes of RAM, often far less. You can have dozens of tabs open and not even use a quarter of the available RAM on an iPad.
The iOS Safari tab reload thing is annoying, but it's because whoever is developing Safari for iOS is doing a lousy job of memory management, not because of how much RAM is available.
Stop being a whiner then and get an Android phone that better suits your needs. Just because 1GB is good enough for plenty of folks doesn't mean they're blind; it just means that they either don't care about the refreshes or they're not doing things that is taking up a lot of RAM.
I've had smartphones with 3GB of RAM, and I have never had a noticeable problem with any of my iPhones in comparison.
Go bitch about the iPhone at XDA or something. Jesus.
When they finally give us 2GB, we will probably need three or four. There are too many people blind to obvious faults and limitations in their prized devices here. I own Apple products, I like the brand, and I wanted an iPhone 6. However, due to many RAM-related problems with my current iPhone I am absolutely miffed that the new one will pack the same amount of RAM. Many others, a minority it would seem, feel the same and it is a dealbreaker when it comes to the iPhone 6. This isn't an Apple bashing thread written by Android fanboys, it's a thread written and contributed to by Apple owners. Get real.
The protruding camera is very obvious in all the photos of the 6 and 6+, what stock photos are you talking about?
They don't mention the RAM or clock speed because that's not something they want their consumers to be focused on. They don't need to post that kind of information to get their product to sell, and most iPhone customers don't care. Don't forget, while a large portion of tech enthusiasts do buy iPhones, the main consumer of the iPhone is the average joe who either doesn't know what these specs mean nor really cares to learn. They just want it to work.
Not to mention that the way Android is developed (basically one big Java VM), RAM is about 100x more important to them than it is to iOS. The iPhone may only have 1GB of RAM but it's been able to keep up with the Android devices that have 2 or even 3 GB of RAM. My S4 has 2GB and a quad-core processor but it has horrible battery drain and it lags doing more complex tasks, but my friend's 5S has little performance issues.
Most other companies care more about technical raw power over efficiency and optimization, which is why they show of all of their tech specs. Apple cares more about having a power efficient product, which is also one of the reasons they don't say the battery capacity, but rather expected hours of usage. Battery capacity means very little. A 2600mAH battery in an Android device is going to drain MUCH faster than a 2600mAH battery in say, a Windows Phone or iOS device.
The problem is the superior and insulting attitude you adopt in your posts. I would sympathize with you if you and your fellow jaded cohorts didn't turn around and insult everyone who doesn't have the same experiences you do. Kind of hard to be on your side when you're calling me a blind fanboy, you know?
I didn't call you a fanboy and the posts defending Apple & trivialising RAM beefs are kinda insulting, it's like we're making up the issues that we experience daily.
1. I don't know why you quoted my oops...I was still typing.
2. I don't know why you're telling me to get real......I never said anything about fanboys.
3. I don't believe people are blind to it. Its just that some believe it to be (for them) a mi-nute issue. Easy to live with. Some others like you, are really annoyed by it. Not much anyone can do as of now, cause this is the technology of the day as it stands, and until they add it, not much you can do.
As you see iPhones SINGLE core performance beats the S5's single core performance but when it comes to multicore performance it doesnt. If our phones were using just the one core then yeah what you said would be true. Im looking forward to seeing the Exynos 5433 octacore (8 cores) benchmarks.
You must have edited as I was quoting you. You said something about us going off to cry until Apple give us 2GB. Agreed that it is what it is, the products have been designed and manufactured. All I wanted was a bigger screen and more RAM, they could have kept everything else as it was for me.
Well, Samsungs may win by means of cheating the benchmark APP. Before that, they would publish an ocean of ads to humiliate themselves.
I firmly believe that iOS see's that there is X amount of tabs open that aren't currently being used, so it decides to clean these tabs content from memory to free up some "dormant" RAM so it can be utilized in other places. You are probably correct that it has been coded this way, which is incredibly annoying as I think alot of people tend to agree. Fingers crossed they can tweak this in their code so tabs are given a grace period before they are cleared from memory, maybe so when a tab has been inactive for say 5 minutes.
Unfortunately for Samsung, 95% of Android apps only use one core 95% of the time.
Unless you are buying a phone to run benchmarks, having lots of cores doesn't matter at this time. Three or four years down the road, perhaps more apps will leverage multiple cores, but, by then, you'll want a different phone.
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Can we leave the fanboy trashtalk out of the thread?
I didn't want to bash Apple in favor of some other company. I want to buy an IPhone 6, but only if it is gonna have 2GB of RAM because the lack thereof is currently my major problem with the IPhone 5.
Maybe in the end it will actually have 2GB and just no one knew. But I could have already ordered instead of waiting for the first analysis from some third-party website.
I didn't want to bash Apple in favor of some other company. I want to buy an IPhone 6, but only if it is gonna have 2GB of RAM because the lack thereof is currently my major problem with the IPhone 5.
Maybe in the end it will actually have 2GB and just no one knew. But I could have already ordered instead of waiting for the first analysis from some third-party website.
You are right, let's bring back the dictator that set the rules for the exact same thing(knowing the ingredients of what you are buying) for almost every other buyable item like cars, food, medicine etc....
And exactly what would you want to run faster on the 5s? The thing is already a speed king, near instant response on every key press.
I couldn't care less how much RAM is in my phone. As long as it does what it's advertised as doing I don't feel it matters.
Also thinking back to my days of building Windows PCs some types of RAM sucked a surprising amount of power, the more MBs the more power is used. I have no idea what type of power requirements RAM on phones has but surely it's got to be taken into account in regards to battery life.
Also thinking back to my days of building Windows PCs some types of RAM sucked a surprising amount of power, the more MBs the more power is used. I have no idea what type of power requirements RAM on phones has but surely it's got to be taken into account in regards to battery life.