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Why doesn't Apple include 2.1A chargers

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If an iPhone 6s charges faster on an iPad charger and Apple has since acknowledged that charging your iPhone from an iPad charger is safe....why doesn't Apple include the iPad charger with an iPhone?

If anyone has any guesses why Apple would want to limit your charging speed, I'd be interested to hear.
 
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to the average iPhone user, they could care less. sure it would be great to have but it doesnt make or break me. oh yeah, and the bottom line
 
Cost, both of manufacturing and of the added shipping costs of a larger, heavier adapter. Most users don't care that much and many would probably prefer the physically smaller adapter in any case. Those that want the faster charging will either already have one from an iPad or buy a new one. Apple wins either way.
 
Cost? Don't buy it (no pun intended).

After thinking about it for a bit I'd assume Apple doesn't want to include it because of how big the adapter is.

Also, I just got off the phone with Apple and the rep advised me not to use the IPad charger over a long period of time as it is not good for the battery. I feel like we've seen Apple say the opposite in the past and their support site even lists the iPad charger as being compatible with iPhones.

Not sure who to believe. :confused:
 
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zhenya said:
Cost, both of manufacturing and of the added shipping costs of a larger, heavier adapter. Most users don't care that much and many would probably prefer the physically smaller adapter in any case. Those that want the faster charging will either already have one from an iPad or buy a new one. Apple wins either way.
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It's obviously a cost concern. Maximize

I don't think weight is a issue as they pay by the pallet\volume to bring product into the stores. Maybe for shipping online to home (but thats a small %). I think its pure cost of 2.1A charging technology vs 5V (Standard).
 
bboucher790 said:
If an iPhone 6s charges faster on an iPad charger and Apple has since acknowledged that charging your iPhone from an iPad charger is safe....why doesn't Apple include the iPad charger with an iPhone?

If anyone has any guesses why Apple would want to limit your charging speed, I'd be interested to hear.
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I bought one of those high powered 5 port charger thing. I used it to charge my iPhone, Watch, Pencil, and IPad Pro.
I don't even use the charger that came with the phones or iPad Pro, there's just too many plugs for my apple devices. Whether it comes with one or not, it's not a big deal to me.
 
perkedel said:
I bought one of those high powered 5 port charger thing. I used it to charge my iPhone, Watch, Pencil, and IPad Pro.
I don't even use the charger that came with the phones or iPad Pro, there's just too many plugs for my apple devices. Whether it comes with one or not, it's not a big deal to me.
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I have one of those as well, but the Apple rep said it's not recommended. Not sure what to do! Next time I'm at the Apple Store I'll try to get to the bottom of this.
 
Beyond the cost consideration, some say fast charging is detrimental over the slower 1A charger.

I'm not sure if true, but I just use the enclosed charger.
 
mbpharoh said:
It's obviously a cost concern. Maximize

I don't think weight is a issue as they pay by the pallet\volume to bring product into the stores. Maybe for shipping online to home (but thats a small %). I think its pure cost of 2.1A charging technology vs 5V (Standard).
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They still pay one way or another. The larger charging brick would mean the phone was packed in a larger box which would mean fewer phones fit on a pallet.
 
bufffilm said:
Beyond the cost consideration, some say fast charging is detrimental over the slower 1A charger.

I'm not sure if true, but I just use the enclosed charger.
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Yep true. Fast charging is not worth the risk for :apple: risking going up in smoke and be on the front page news and tarnish their name like Samsung, had to throw that one in there.
 
Always used the 12 watts ipad charger for my 6s Plus... and for devices before that modeltoo! it charges way more faster than the regular one that comes with the phone. There's a huge difference specially for Plus users since the battery is larger... I hope they put some sort of fast charging in the iphone 8
 
unglued said:
Yep true. Fast charging is not worth the risk for :apple: risking going up in smoke and be on the front page news and tarnish their name like Samsung, had to throw that one in there.
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I'm not sure the Samsung analogy is true here nor am I saying that it (fast charging) leads to batteries exploding.

the tie-in of fast charging possibly shortening lithium-ion cell life is something I've come across to once or twice, that's all.
 
bboucher790 said:
Cost? Don't buy it (no pun intended).

After thinking about it for a bit I'd assume Apple doesn't want to include it because of how big the adapter is.

Also, I just got off the phone with Apple and the rep advised me not to use the IPad charger over a long period of time as it is not good for the battery. I feel like we've seen Apple say the opposite in the past and their support site even lists the iPad charger as being compatible with iPhones.

Not sure who to believe. :confused:
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I dont beleive it. It maybe true in the long term like 3-4 years + but by then you will probably have a new phone. And most people on this forum upgrades before that.
 
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I'm sure they could squeeze it in.
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Damn lad, not sure you ever have owned your own business or what not?. But the DARN bottom line of any company is MAXIMIZE THE PROFIT! **** anything else, yea they would care for customers and ya da ya da ****. But in the end money is the concern. Yea they are multiple billion company but hey wake up this world anit nothing more than money in coporate chain.

Ex coporate chain worker ( district rep) for retailer in food and groceries.

So stop arguing about it and move on. You want an 5v? Then buy one. :cool:
 
sahilpatel12 said:
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Damn lad, not sure you ever have owned your own business or what not?. But the DARN bottom line of any company is MAXIMIZE THE PROFIT! **** anything else, yea they would care for customers and ya da ya da ****. But in the end money is the concern. Yea they are multiple billion company but hey wake up this world anit nothing more than money in coporate chain.

Ex coporate chain worker ( district rep) for retailer in food and groceries.

So stop arguing about it and move on. You want an 5v? Then buy one. :cool:
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I have two 5v chargers.

I don't think it's about profits, but I'm in the minority here. If I ever win that lunch with Tim Cook, I'll be sure to find out the reason.

Lastly, I'm co-founding a fast food chain and I'm glad I don't have your business mentality!
 
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bboucher790 said:
I have two 5v chargers.

I don't think it's about profits, but I'm in the minority here. If I ever win that lunch with Tim Cook, I'll be sure to find out the reason.

Lastly, I'm co-founding a fast food chain and I'm glad I don't have your business mentality!
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I sure do hope you don't start cutting dem workers wages now. Better pay em $15 bucks to flip burgers lad.
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ohms12 said:
Battery degradation & heat, I guess, would be Apple's reasoning.

Oh, and the money. Always about the $$$.
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Real talk lad.
 
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I sure do hope you don't start cutting dem workers wages now. Better pay em $15 bucks to flip burgers lad.
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Real talk lad.
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In all seriousness though, my in laws have always charged their iPhones with iPad chargers. All 3 of them have had issues with batteries on their respective iPhones. Make of that whatever you will - I use that Anker 5 USB number. Works for me, with no battery deg yet.
 
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I sure do hope you don't start cutting dem workers wages now. Better pay em $15 bucks to flip burgers lad.
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Real talk lad.
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State law will be $15, lad.

Wages won't be a problem with our business model, lad.
 
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