Why doesn't Apple include 2.1A chargers

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  1. bboucher790 macrumors 65816

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    If an iPhone 6s charges faster on an iPad charger and Apple has since acknowledged that charging your iPhone from an iPad charger is safe....why doesn't Apple include the iPad charger with an iPhone?

    If anyone has any guesses why Apple would want to limit your charging speed, I'd be interested to hear.
     
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  4. bnahms123 macrumors newbie

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    to the average iPhone user, they could care less. sure it would be great to have but it doesnt make or break me. oh yeah, and the bottom line
     
  5. TurboPGT! macrumors 68000

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    The question is why does Apple include x with purchase, instead of something better? Cost.

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  6. zhenya macrumors 603

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    Cost, both of manufacturing and of the added shipping costs of a larger, heavier adapter. Most users don't care that much and many would probably prefer the physically smaller adapter in any case. Those that want the faster charging will either already have one from an iPad or buy a new one. Apple wins either way.
     
  7. bboucher790 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Cost? Don't buy it (no pun intended).

    After thinking about it for a bit I'd assume Apple doesn't want to include it because of how big the adapter is.

    Also, I just got off the phone with Apple and the rep advised me not to use the IPad charger over a long period of time as it is not good for the battery. I feel like we've seen Apple say the opposite in the past and their support site even lists the iPad charger as being compatible with iPhones.

    Not sure who to believe. :confused:
     
  8. mbpharoh macrumors member

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    It's obviously a cost concern. Maximize

    I don't think weight is a issue as they pay by the pallet\volume to bring product into the stores. Maybe for shipping online to home (but thats a small %). I think its pure cost of 2.1A charging technology vs 5V (Standard).
     
  9. perkedel macrumors 6502a

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    I bought one of those high powered 5 port charger thing. I used it to charge my iPhone, Watch, Pencil, and IPad Pro.
    I don't even use the charger that came with the phones or iPad Pro, there's just too many plugs for my apple devices. Whether it comes with one or not, it's not a big deal to me.
     
  10. bboucher790 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I have one of those as well, but the Apple rep said it's not recommended. Not sure what to do! Next time I'm at the Apple Store I'll try to get to the bottom of this.
     
  11. bufffilm macrumors 601

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    Beyond the cost consideration, some say fast charging is detrimental over the slower 1A charger.

    I'm not sure if true, but I just use the enclosed charger.
     
  12. zhenya macrumors 603

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    They still pay one way or another. The larger charging brick would mean the phone was packed in a larger box which would mean fewer phones fit on a pallet.
     
  13. bboucher790 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I'm sure they could squeeze it in.
     
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    Yep true. Fast charging is not worth the risk for :apple: risking going up in smoke and be on the front page news and tarnish their name like Samsung, had to throw that one in there.
     
  16. big samm macrumors 65816

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    Always used the 12 watts ipad charger for my 6s Plus... and for devices before that modeltoo! it charges way more faster than the regular one that comes with the phone. There's a huge difference specially for Plus users since the battery is larger... I hope they put some sort of fast charging in the iphone 8
     
  17. bufffilm macrumors 601

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    I'm not sure the Samsung analogy is true here nor am I saying that it (fast charging) leads to batteries exploding.

    the tie-in of fast charging possibly shortening lithium-ion cell life is something I've come across to once or twice, that's all.
     
  18. metsjetsfan macrumors 65816

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    I dont beleive it. It maybe true in the long term like 3-4 years + but by then you will probably have a new phone. And most people on this forum upgrades before that.
     
  19. deannnnn macrumors 68000

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    They can make the cost argument because the difference in charging speed is just not significant enough.
     
  20. sahilpatel12 macrumors 6502a

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    Damn lad, not sure you ever have owned your own business or what not?. But the DARN bottom line of any company is MAXIMIZE THE PROFIT! **** anything else, yea they would care for customers and ya da ya da ****. But in the end money is the concern. Yea they are multiple billion company but hey wake up this world anit nothing more than money in coporate chain.

    Ex coporate chain worker ( district rep) for retailer in food and groceries.

    So stop arguing about it and move on. You want an 5v? Then buy one. :cool:
     
  21. bboucher790 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I have two 5v chargers.

    I don't think it's about profits, but I'm in the minority here. If I ever win that lunch with Tim Cook, I'll be sure to find out the reason.

    Lastly, I'm co-founding a fast food chain and I'm glad I don't have your business mentality!
     
  22. ohms12 macrumors 6502

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    Battery degradation & heat, I guess, would be Apple's reasoning.

    Oh, and the money. Always about the $$$.
     
  23. sahilpatel12 macrumors 6502a

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    I sure do hope you don't start cutting dem workers wages now. Better pay em $15 bucks to flip burgers lad.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 12, 2016 ---
    Real talk lad.
     
  24. ohms12 macrumors 6502

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    In all seriousness though, my in laws have always charged their iPhones with iPad chargers. All 3 of them have had issues with batteries on their respective iPhones. Make of that whatever you will - I use that Anker 5 USB number. Works for me, with no battery deg yet.
     
  25. bboucher790 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    State law will be $15, lad.

    Wages won't be a problem with our business model, lad.
     

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