Why doesn't Apple warn that an iOS update may slow their device?

Discussion in 'iOS 10' started by mebehere, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. mebehere macrumors 6502

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    Or make unusable? My iPad 3 became essentially unusable after the last update it qualified for. Why wasn't there a warning that this could happen? Should there be more transparency on Apple's part? I think so.
     
  2. Shirasaki macrumors G3

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    Apple’s incentive is to push everyone to the latest firmware, regardless of the performance issue.
    So, I highly doubt this would ever happen.
     
  3. yegon macrumors 68030

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    I remember updating my iPhone 3G to iOS4 a couple of days before my launch day iPhone 4 arrived. Holy smokes, it became the closest-to-bricked-without-actually-being-bricked device I’ve ever owned! XD

    Then my absolutely wonderful 4 arrived, never experienced a more satisfying upgrade before or since.

    I believe later iOS4 updates made the 3G a little better. Still, they never should have updated it past iOS3, it was an okay, slightly sluggish texting and basic browsing device on that version.
     
  4. thingstoponder macrumors 6502

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    Because why would they? They would be the only company that does that. Surely most people know by now that newer software may not run as well as launch day software.
     
  5. Feenician macrumors 601

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    What would the precedent be for that, in any OS upgrade anywhere? Why would Apple in particular be expected to do so?
     
  6. jr866gooner macrumors 65816

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    I've an iPhone 4 on iOS 7 that I use only for podcasts and music and blimey it's so slow! It needs to be rebooted each week and takes so long to download and process podcasts...

    There is no way I could use it day to day..

    The 5S I was extremely surprised at how well it ran iOS 10.. I dread how it will run 11 though!
     
  7. Howard2k macrumors 68020

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    It's lose/lose.

    Don't make the software run on older slower devices, people whine about their platform being abandoned.
    Do make the software run on older slower devices, people whine about performance.
     
  8. AFEPPL macrumors 68030

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    So they can claim market position for the latest version of iOS
     
  9. KGB7 Suspended

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    It happens with every product ever made by anyone.
    That's why no one ever provides 100% guarantee to have zero issues.
     
  10. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    All they need to do is allow ability to downgrade the os
     
  11. jr866gooner macrumors 65816

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    Wonder if they can only apply security and critical updates to the older devices and avoid the bloat!
     
  12. AFEPPL macrumors 68030

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    But that would remove the device obsolescence feature...!
     
  13. jr866gooner macrumors 65816

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    Sorry I meant that very last supported update being only security and key features and avoid bloat.
     
  14. LoveToMacRumors macrumors 68020

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    Because they want you to buy the new iPhone. Don't be surprised. I would do the same if I was Tim Cook
     
  15. Falhófnir macrumors 68040

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    TBH recent devices aren't nearly as bad on their final OS versions (by the sounds of things) as has been in the case in the past. iPhone 5 and iPad 4 on iOS 10 are still perfectly usable, iPhone 5s, sounds reasonably ok on 11 (though not sounding too good for iPad Air and iPad mini 2 in fairness, due to lower ram) device power has increased exponentially while OS requirements have only drifted up linearly (if that).
     
  16. CTHarrryH macrumors 68000

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    Because it runs slowly for you doesn't mean it runs slowly for everyone. Maybe it is an application that you run. Maybe it is your network access. Based upon this forum - sure people have had issues with updates but more don't have problems with them.
    Not saying it isn't a real problem for you but it may not be a general problem. There are people who buy a brand new model phone and complain about performance
     
  17. KGB7, Sep 2, 2017
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    There is no evidence to support such claim, other wise there would be a law suit.
     
  18. FrozenInferno macrumors regular

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    Should be common sense by now I would think. Continue to pile in more features and functionality = old hardware is going to have trouble with it and slow down. Technology marches on but this hardware is frozen in time.

    That said, there's no doubt in my mind there is at least SOME planned obsolescence built into Apple software. The burning need to sell, sell, sell is too strong to resist.
     
  19. _Kiki_, Sep 2, 2017
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    _Kiki_ macrumors 6502a

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    should be available option to back to older OS anytime, but Apple don't care and they want force you to buy new iDevice

    Which evidence do you need? maybe you should call "committee of investigation"
     
  20. KGB7 Suspended

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    How about a software code in ios that clearly shows that older devices are being hindered??
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    Common sense has no place in court. If you don't have factual proof, then your common sense is worthless.
     
  21. trifid macrumors 68000

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    Sluggish iOS update -> new device purchase

    That’s how Apple profits.
     
  22. _Kiki_ macrumors 6502a

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    currently you can't even turn off auto-notfiactions with updates, so less tech people are "bricking" their older iDevices unawarely
     
  23. Septembersrain Contributor

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    Now that would be a nice option. A person can actively remove an update if they choose not to update their devices. Just put a disclaimer that security might be compromised or release a security patch minus all the added features that slow these devices down.
     
  24. _Kiki_ macrumors 6502a

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    on Macs it's not a problem you can use older OSX at own risk, also security patches are for 2 generations back (currently Yosemite it's the last "safe" OSX to use)
     
  25. FrozenInferno macrumors regular

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    So because nobody can prove it (yet) I have to side with innocent 'ole Apple by default? Naw, it doesn't work that way either. Maybe Apple could prove to us that it doesn't pull these tricks instead.
     

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