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Not defending Apple but isn't this easily rectified with a USB-C hub and a Dislplaylink driver?
Sometimes. It probably would work for me, but reportedly not all workflows work properly. Plus driving multiple displays via a laptop that frequently moves back and forth from desktop mode to away-mobile mode is often a PITA even with compliant hardware, so it tends to not be a good idea to buy hardware intending solutions that are not specifically supported by Apple.
 
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The M2 does support 2 displays. On the M2 MacBook Air and Pro it supports the internal one and one external. The Mac mini supports 2 displays. HDMI and USB-C. Think of the HDMI on the mini like the internal display on the MacBook Air.
I would be OK with 2 external displays with the laptop screen off apple could make this happen if they wanted to.
 
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All the folks whining about support for just one display or max 24 GB RAM need to get a grip. The MBA is the low end Apple laptop, duh. As such it is a spectacular box that outperforms most higher end Intel boxes. Whining about wanting high end features in a low end box is just chickensh*t.

TBH I am one of those folks who would buy an MBA right now if it drove external displays. Even though I am a maxed-out 2016 MBP user, the M2 MBA is so strong and such a good value that if it drove 3 displays I would go for it just to get into the M-series silicon. But after decades of Macs I can wait for the pro-level M2 MBPs that we all know are coming. More RAM, more displays, more laptop display real estate, more ports/throughput will be worth the wait (albeit more pricey...).

My M1 mini drives two 4k monitors natively and the display on a 2010 iMac over Ethernet using Screen Sharing. It's one interesting way to get three or four monitors running on an M1 Mac.
 
We disagree. IMO for the lowest end of Apple's laptop line to be limited to driving a single 6k display is totally appropriate product line segmentation at this stage of the laptop product line. In the future things usually evolve, so that remains to be seen.
You keep, over and over again, beating this "low-end" drum. Do you mean the machine that would satisfy every one of 90% of all Apple laptop users? That's some serious low-end workmanship there.

Like numerous others in this thread, I cannot for the life of me understand defending Apple on not allowing more than 1 laptop when machines 50% cheaper can do it.

For me, one is all I want but I wanted more than I'd be upset that a capable hardware laptop cannot do it.

Let's be realistic.
 
It was a serious question. To label criticism as whining is all in your head. People are rather asking why something at this price level isn’t full featured. I can live with the price if the product delivers, and no, single external monitor support doesn’t cut it for many.
Apple has over a year and a half of sales data on the M1 Air so I’m sure they knew what they were doing. For most people it isn’t an issue.
 
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We have dual monitors at the office, and almost all the time I turn the second monitor off. While it would be nice for support for 2 external monitors I can see why Apple didn’t include it. Certainly there are no technical limitations why they couldn’t if they wanted to.
 
You keep, over and over again, beating this "low-end" drum. Do you mean the machine that would satisfy every one of 90% of all Apple laptop users? That's some serious low-end workmanship there.

Like numerous others in this thread, I cannot for the life of me understand defending Apple on not allowing more than 1 laptop when machines 50% cheaper can do it.

For me, one is all I want but I wanted more than I'd be upset that a capable hardware laptop cannot do it.

Let's be realistic.
Yes, the new MBA is some serious low-end workmanship there.

Some here, like you, apparently want that lowest end of Apple's laptops to be so competent as to obviate the need for any higher end Mac laptops. However, a vendor like Apple needs to build a line of products (laptops in this discussion), with multiple products logically segmented to create that line.

It would be a very poor decision for Apple to configure the lowest end of Apple's laptops to also meet the needs of the folks like me who routinely buy the higher end Apple laptops. A company needs to maintain a well-developed, properly segmented line of products to make it all work long term.

Rejoice that the MBA is such a spectacular product for Apple's lowest end instead of whining because Apple configures its lowest end laptop as a low end box - - like Apple should do.

Note that Apple's very successful business model is to make superior products of above average competence (that do cost more). That's why Apple's lowest end laptop is so great. Apple's very successful business model also means yes, there will be cheaper non-Apple boxes with added features at the even lower end; like multiple displays driven by some cheaper crap Dell box.

Edit: If anything the new lowest-end MBA laptop might actually be too competent; personally I just consider it to be spectacular. And with the lowest end M2 laptop so good it makes me very hopeful about what the coming high end M2 MBPs may be like. [Please Apple give us back 4 TB ports!!]
 
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Apple has over a year and a half of sales data on the M1 Air so I’m sure they knew what they were doing. For most people it isn’t an issue.
Sure thing they are the masters of up selling. That doesn’t equate to value for money on the consumer side though which is where I’m coming from.
 
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You keep, over and over again, beating this "low-end" drum. Do you mean the machine that would satisfy every one of 90% of all Apple laptop users? That's some serious low-end workmanship there.

Like numerous others in this thread, I cannot for the life of me understand defending Apple on not allowing more than 1 laptop when machines 50% cheaper can do it.

For me, one is all I want but I wanted more than I'd be upset that a capable hardware laptop cannot do it.

Let's be realistic.
Well said. One needs some good imagination btw to label anything with a four digit price tag as low end in the consumer computer market anyway.
 
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Sure thing they are the masters of up selling. That doesn’t equate to value for money on the consumer side though which is where I’m coming from.
IMO the MBA is excellent value for money on the consumer side, for such a spectacular box. Folks who simply want to list features and price and define that as "value" will never be Apple's target market anyway. Such folks are in the Dell/Windows world.
 
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Well said. One needs some good imagination btw to label anything with a four digit price tag as low end in the consumer computer market anyway.
No, one simply needs to apply minimal intellect to see that the MBA is Apple's lowest end laptop and to be aware that Apple has a very, very successful (best in the industry by far) business model that specifically excludes going after the low end in the consumer computer market. Duh.

Get it? The MBA is not a low end box relative to the low end in the consumer computer market, but it is Apple's lowest end laptop box. Which is what matters when we discuss Apple's configuring/positioning of Apple's products.
 
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No, one simply needs to apply minimal intellect to see that the MBA is Apple's lowest end laptop and to be aware that Apple has a very, very successful (best in the industry by far) business model that specifically excludes going after the low end in the consumer computer market. Duh.

Get it? The MBA is not a low end box relative to the low end in the consumer computer market, but it is Apple's lowest end laptop box. Which is what matters when we discuss Apple's configuring/positioning of Apple's products.
One can apply the lowest amount of intellect to look at the value proposition in comparison to the market. And in that aspect it’s lacking. Not new to Apple of course, they have a history of artificially crippling their lower end machines to boost sales of the high end.
 
One can apply the lowest amount of intellect to look at the value proposition in comparison to the market. And in that aspect it’s lacking. Not new to Apple of course, they have a history of artificially crippling their lower end machines to boost sales of the high end.
Simply put, you are flat f*cking wrong. The M2 MBA is a spectacular offering and will sell very well. It is so good that it will undoubtedly cannibalize some sales from Apple's high end (at least until we see how good the M2 high end laptops really are).

Sure in the framework of the low end in the consumer computer market that you seem so enamored with, Apple's MBA laptop is not price competitive. But Apple does not go after the low end in the consumer computer market, duh. So do not waste breath whining about Apple lacking value in some market space that Apple has never been interested in.
 
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Simply put, you are flat f*cking wrong. The M2 MBA is a spectacular offering and will sell very well. It is so good that it will undoubtedly cannibalize some sales from Apple's high end (at least until we see how good the M2 high end really is).

Sure in the framework of the low end in the consumer computer market that you seem so enamored with, Apple's MBA laptop is not price competitive. But Apple does not go after the low end in the consumer computer market, duh. So do not waste breath whining about Apple lacking value in some market space that Apple has never been interested in.
You have a nerve with the name calling, duh. Criticism does not equal whining. It’s a nice machine that is only suitable to single external monitor use cases. When you wake up from your shilling day dream you will realise that in wfh times that will force some to buy the higher up products just to attach a second monitor.
 
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You have a nerve with the name calling, duh. Criticism does not equal whining. It’s a nice machine that is only suitable to single external monitor use cases. When you wake up from your shilling day dream you will realise that in wfh times that will force some to buy the higher up products just to attach a second monitor.
Apparently you failed to read my commentary above:
"However, a vendor like Apple needs to build a line of products (laptops in this discussion), with multiple products logically segmented to create that line.

It would be a very poor decision for Apple to configure the lowest end of Apple's laptops to also meet the needs of the folks like me who routinely buy the higher end Apple laptops. A company needs to maintain a well-developed, properly segmented line of products to make it all work long term."


So I already agreed with you that yes Apple does (wisely) keep some features off its lowest end laptop box. That is what makes it the lowest end Apple laptop box, and what will allow a full line of M2 laptops to be created and sold.
 
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Just unboxed my MB Air 2022 Midnight, and looks great. Hook it to my Asus MX38V external monitor and its poop. 30FPS and worthless in this scenario. It seems its not even able to change the FPS as there isnt an option to do so.

Hook back my 2019 MBP and boom, 75FPS off the rip.

Might return it. Doesnt seem worth it now to me. ANy help on this issue?
 
Just unboxed my MB Air 2022 Midnight, and looks great. Hook it to my Asus MX38V external monitor and its poop. 30FPS and worthless in this scenario. It seems its not even able to change the FPS as there isnt an option to do so.

Hook back my 2019 MBP and boom, 75FPS off the rip.

Might return it. Doesnt seem worth it now to me. ANy help on this issue?

I think it's the Apple Chips

From my experience with an M1 Mini and the M1 MBA we have in house, they are a lot pickier about what they get connected to and Apple doesn't provide much at all in terms of settings/features to adapt -- especially to anything sub 4k.

It's enormously frustrating.

I don't think it's malice or intent -- but rather they "just don't care"
 
I think it's the Apple Chips

From my experience with an M1 Mini and the M1 MBA we have in house, they are a lot pickier about what they get connected to and Apple doesn't provide much at all in terms of settings/features to adapt -- especially to anything sub 4k.

It's enormously frustrating.

I don't think it's malice or intent -- but rather they "just don't care"

Horrible. There should be no reason why this monitor cant run at a min of 60FPS. The pointer looks like a ghost currently. Ugh. No good.
 
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Just unboxed my MB Air 2022 Midnight, and looks great. Hook it to my Asus MX38V external monitor and its poop. 30FPS and worthless in this scenario. It seems its not even able to change the FPS as there isnt an option to do so.

Hook back my 2019 MBP and boom, 75FPS off the rip.

Might return it. Doesnt seem worth it now to me. ANy help on this issue?
You may be hitting the display limitations of the MBA (compared to the MBP) and need to wait for an M2 MBP level of box. However I would go hard at Apple tech support before returning it, just to make sure the 30 FPS is an expected limitation and not a setting or an OS/software problem.

And like turbineseaplane suggested, I would experiment with connection methodologies. Oftentimes a display will perform differently with one dongle and differently via a different dongle or port methodology. It took experimentation to get my 2016 MBP to properly drive three 4K displays.

Edit: And although I would instantly notice color/resolution/scaling issues, as a stills person I might never know if the displays presented no more than 30 fps.
 
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