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Why doesn't the AirPort Extreme have QoS (Quality of Service)?

I've used a Hawking Broadband Booster in the past to add a hardware QoS engine between an Airport Extreme and a modem. It worked well and I was still able to use all of the features of the Airport Extreme.
 
bohbot16 said:
I've used a Hawking Broadband Booster in the past to add a hardware QoS engine between an Airport Extreme and a modem. It worked well and I was still able to use all of the features of the Airport Extreme.
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Unfortunately it looks like the booster has been discontinued. Is there anything similar out there?
 
Wow, some people are being major c!@#s to the OP. He just asked a simple question. QoS is available on some of the most basic switches. You don't need to go pro. Any DDWRT or Tomato open source router can do this as well.
The Extreme and Time Capsule have a premium price. We should be able to use QoS even if 95% of the people won't use it.
I have a Cisco SPA2102 Telephone Adaptor for VoIP and if I put the device in front of the Airport then I'll only have 100-base-T to my WAN.
Apple could add QoS as a update at any time.. Its not that hard.
 
Just read this thread and WOW! Some of the first responders should be ashamed of themselves for wasting the OP time with their ignorant replies.


Anyways did any ever find an alternative for getting Qos in conjunction with the AEBS or Time Capsule?



And guys obviously if the OP came to this forum in search of answers about Qos on an apple router he must know that he needs it.
 
glitch44 said:
Why doesn't the AirPort Extreme have QoS (Quality of Service)?

This seems like a basic thing that most routers offer now because of VOIP. If not as a basic setting, at least as a buried, advanced setting that people can tinker with if they have to.
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you should know not to ask a legitimate question on a forum like this - people here can't admit apples faults.


here I've been called an "apple-hater" at work I'm called an "apple fanboy" when in actuality I admire apple for their products and contributions, but I'll admit when something is wrong with them (airport extreme has no QoS, iphone is too locked down with too small of a screen, 21.5" imac has no upgradeable ram, yet they cost more than things that have those features).

Most here are heavy kool-aid drinkers and if apple doesn't have it - they claim it isn't needed.

when apple finally gets it, then it's suddenly the best thing in the world.

Nothing wrong with admiring apple and at the same time seeing ALL their faults.

overall do I think their products are worth the money? usually yes.
 
Whether it's needed or not is a subjective matter. If you need it then Apple's the wrong place to look. That's the way it is. The majority do not need it and it has nothing to do with Kool Aid -- otherwise they'd be buying something else as well.

If you're shopping for a manual transmission sports car then don't look at the automatic sedans and claim that the sedans are "faulty". Buy what works for you.
 
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Exactly. There are many large corporate networks that do not use QoS at all. They simply don't need it for their network setup. Most home users do not either. It's not like as if they are moving massive amounts of data in their own network causing all sorts of problems with things like VoIP phones. Most home networks are only there so they can have an internet connection on all their devices anyway. If you do have some problems and/or just want to use QoS then by all means go down that path but do yourself a favour and get equipment that properly supports it (so no Apple).
 
This thread is about 23 months old. Why are you guys even responding to this old thread ? OP is probably gone long time ago 😕
 
Information on this site is not only for whoever starts the topic!!! There are many others reading the topics because they have similar issues/questions. If you read this thread better you'd have noticed somebody asking a question: "
Anyways did any ever find an alternative for getting Qos in conjunction with the AEBS or Time Capsule?". People are responding to that question, not to the OP.

In other words: read the thread before ranting/flaming/etc.
 
QoS is also a protocol that can be exploited even on WPA2 which is supposed to be very difficult to crack. Anyway, I think QoS is a basic feature now on most routers so to sit there and say they should buy something else is absurd. QoS...man almost any router I've ever owned had it. I don't use it anymore though.
 
Wow, am going to resuscitate this dead horse one more time because... the lack of QOS (still) is preventing me from buying this router.

I want an Extreme, despite that it's overpriced, is so that am guaranteed to run iTunes WIFI sync wo any trouble, but the lack of user-configurable QOS is really unacceptable.

The responses here... now I know what they mean fan boys, and I love Apple products myself... some responses are wholly unhelpful to the OP's Q, as in, if you question Apple, then you don't buy an Apple product. Whaaaa?
 
Mrbobb said:
Wow, am going to resuscitate this dead horse one more time
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Well, thanks for nothing.

if you question Apple, then you don't buy an Apple product.
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No, I do not think it is that at all. I think it is more like "why, for the love of God, can't you understand that you are not the target market?". Apple is not interested in providing devices with esoteric features. All the bitching and moaning in the world is not going to change that.

A.
 
Just to chime in again. I own an Asus RT-AC66U router now (but previously a cheaper Asus RT-N16 router) and stuck Tomato firmware on it. Really decent QoS controls, along with bandwidth limiting per IP etc. I don't even bother considering Apple routers.
 
Mrbobb said:
Wow, am going to resuscitate this dead horse one more time because... the lack of QOS (still) is preventing me from buying this router.

I want an Extreme, despite that it's overpriced, is so that am guaranteed to run iTunes WIFI sync wo any trouble, but the lack of user-configurable QOS is really unacceptable.

The responses here... now I know what they mean fan boys, and I love Apple products myself... some responses are wholly unhelpful to the OP's Q, as in, if you question Apple, then you don't buy an Apple product. Whaaaa?
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The QoS is not configurable on an AirPort. That being said, there is definitely a QoS system on them as if you run a packet sniffer and run it through Wireshark you can see all of the various QoS data.

I run a network of 150+ clients at school. We have an AirPort Extreme 6th generation connected to 12 AirPort Expresses working as access points. If there was an issue with the QoS system then I would see it instantly. While I do like to have control over all aspects of the network, there has never been an issue. If it works fine on a network that large I am sure you will be more than satisfied in a home environment.
 
A walled garden, open source lover

Good day.

I created a MacRumors account just to post on this thread since I really think the Airport Express needs an update. I think it is about it supports gigabit Ethernet and 802.11ac (with a lighter version of Beamforming, if I am allowed to suggest this).
I, like a lot of sysadmins and IT workers, am a fan of Apple products. Yes, I know about the walled gardens and all of that. However, my FW is an open source-powered box that will take care of any "exotic" networking feature I might care to add to my home network. And yet, I like the Airport Express thingie but I feel it really, really needs an update. Gigabit Ethernet and 802.11ac are really important to have to keep this device relevant in the current market conditions.

Thank you.
 
Nachin2 said:
Good day.



I created a MacRumors account just to post on this thread since I really think the Airport Express needs an update. I think it is about it supports gigabit Ethernet and 802.11ac (with a lighter version of Beamforming, if I am allowed to suggest this).

I, like a lot of sysadmins and IT workers, am a fan of Apple products. Yes, I know about the walled gardens and all of that. However, my FW is an open source-powered box that will take care of any "exotic" networking feature I might care to add to my home network. And yet, I like the Airport Express thingie but I feel it really, really needs an update. Gigabit Ethernet and 802.11ac are really important to have to keep this device relevant in the current market conditions.



Thank you.
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I agree that it needs at least Gigabit ports. I could understand Apple keeping it at 802.11n to offer differentiation between the models.
 
OllyW said:
Why is that?
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How about "Simply because QoS is something you normally implement at your router/modem device connected to the Internet?" (This should be where your bottleneck is...)

By all means, make sure you have enough bandwidth allocated for your VOIP device/protocol/etc. at the gateway device.

Why would you do it anywhere else?

(If you're looking for an overcomplicated router that sits in-between your internet device and your LAN and/or Wireless network(s) sure, you can do it there too if you. That may even make sense if you aren't able to choose your own internet device.)

But I agree, why would you need your Airport to do this? Is your WiFi bandwidth so low that you need QoS on each and every separate wifi access point? Is that you WiFi device's problem? (Sadly, if this is the case, that's probably because have something configured poorly or your gear it isn't capable of modern wifi speeds...)

Cheers!

"A quote that makes me seem smart, humble, and rationalizes my actions."
 
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