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I think that the article title is extremely irresponsible. The writer/editors wanted a sensational title so that people would read the article. The title alone could help dissuade someone who is struggling with their weight to just give up on exercise all together.

It's all about a balance between regular exercise and a healthy diet. To get real results, you need to do a combination of the two. A healthy diet will work, but only up to a point. Same with exercise. It's all about finding the right combination for each individual.
 
Seeing as its kind of on topic anyway, what is everyones views on supplements like whey protein and creatine. Creatine is something i try very hard to just stay away from. Whey protein I don't know enough about to make any informed decisions on.

Whey protein is just one form of protien...its prob the most common. You take different type according to your goal. You can haev mass protien which will be full of carbs to build muscle or sometime like whey/pure protien with less carbs so you can keep your muscle but lose weight. Then you have protien that is taken in fast by your body and others that are taken in slowly. So all depends on your goals really.

Creatine is used for energy basically before and after a session

I dont know what its like in the States, but i have friends here who boast that they have only eaten 1000 cals etc...but i try to tell them that its bad for their body...as you need cals for it to work properly!

I train alot and I roughly have 3000cals a day and im deiting! so god knows what only taking 1000 cals does to you!
 
What would someone suggest for someone battling "bad genes" (waistband wise in the family) with these stats:

5 foot 6 inches
150ish pounds (apparently a decent amount is muscle, so said the nurse at my surgery)

I'm looking to lose a bit of a small gut i have going and some fat on my chest, as well as build up a bit more muscle.

Any suggestions? I'm looking to hit the gym on campus around 3 times a week or really whenever im bored.
 
The first time that I heard about this article was from a frantic friend of mine. This article absolutely infuriated me.
A friend of mine has an eating disorder and she about lost her mind when she heard about this article. Imagine this article being presented to someone who already habitually exercises themselves to the bone and counts every calorie they eat because they think they are fat, when in all actuality they are not. In fact they are in good shape and completely attractive. Whats your next move then ? Eat even less ?

People are hungrier after they exercise. Why is that genius? Possibly because their body needs more fuel to rebuild muscle ? Being hungry must be a bad thing then. The logical answer to reducing hunger then must be to exercise less!
Give me a break.

This article is complete and utter sensationalist journalistic garbage.
A more appropriate title and a better use a paper would have been
" Common mistakes people make as they try to lose weight", but that wouldnt have sold as many copies of their magazine now would it ?

Stay tuned for next month's article, " Why smoking wont kill you ".
 
I'm looking to lose a bit of a small gut i have going and some fat on my chest, as well as build up a bit more muscle.
You really have no say in where and how the body decides to reduce the fat, that is you cannot exercise your stomach in the hopes that you'll lose the spare tire, type of mentality.

With that said, working out at the gym, mixing weight training and cardio is the best way to get your body in shape. Watching what you eat is the second thing, like avoiding foods with high fructose corn syrup, and deep fried foods.

While genetics certainly is a factor, you can reshape your body by increasing muscle mass which in turn will burn more calories, thus reducing your weight.
 
I hate crap like this.
Exercise alone will not make you thin. To loose weight you have to eat less calories than you burn.
Problem is people are lazy and not willing to keep working out after they got down to weight they wanted. Yes you can reduce amount of exercise if you do not increase you food intake or the other way around and that is just to maintain.

That being said over the past 20 years one thing has changed in the american diet and the leading cause of our weight gain. It is the fact that we take in some much liquid sugar like cokes. Our bodies do not reconize liquid sugar as water so we are still hungry. One study I read said in the past 20 years Amercain still eat about the same amount caloirs per day in solid food but what has skyrocket was the liquid sugar intake. Take that Venta White mocha from star bucks some people have every morning. That is 600 caliors right there. 600 cals that our body is not got to recognize as cals so we still will be hungry for the same amount of food.

I know people who lost 10-20 lb very quickly and kept it off by changing 1 damn thing. They quick drinking sodas and the weight just went away.

Oh another interesting fact. People who eat healthy food tend to eat less. Not because they are trying to cut the intake of food or it does not taste as good but because they get full faster. The body knows what those foods better than a lot of the crap we eat so it tells us it is full a lot quicker.
 
Funny thing about metabolisms. When I was young, I was the same. I could not gain a pound no matter what. I'm in my 40s now and I have to exercise to keep the pounds off. I don't have to restrict my diet too much but I do vary my caloric intake from day to day.

I'm in my 40's too. Nothing has changed. If I stop lifting, I lose weight pretty fast. It's a constant battle for me to keep weight on. I've been constantly working out and active most of my life though.

What would someone suggest for someone battling "bad genes" (waistband wise in the family) with these stats:

5 foot 6 inches
150ish pounds (apparently a decent amount is muscle, so said the nurse at my surgery)

I'm looking to lose a bit of a small gut i have going and some fat on my chest, as well as build up a bit more muscle.

Any suggestions? I'm looking to hit the gym on campus around 3 times a week or really whenever im bored.

Lift weights, do crunches and do cardio. Please, please, PLEASE find someone to show you proper form. This is the biggest mistake people make. Form is so important. You can lift for years and never see a difference because of bad form. You can also injure yourself.
 
But does exercise keep the weight off?
I used to walk and hike a lot but 18 months ago I became way too busy to keep it up. I've gained a stone in that time without my diet changing.
 
I was 275 pounds and around 6'2 at one point. I never got into the idea of a specific diet because I always ended up breaking it.

I simply decided to eat less and exercise more. It worked. No, it wasn't perfect and I struggled but it was SO MUCH EASIER than some of the crap friends of mine put themselves through. I ate around 2,000 calories a day and RAN every other day. Sure, sometimes I ran every 3rd day and some days I ate 2500 calories...but considering my weight, eating less than 4,000 calories a day was a positive :eek:

If more people simply ate less and exercised more, they would not be as heavy as they are.....and when I say that, I don't mean everyone will be thin....I just mean obese they will not be in the obese range.

I am 215 now and even at 6'2 am considered "over-weight" and just eating 2000-2500 calories a day doesn't mean I lose that much weight. I have to now eat BETTER rather than just anything....and stay below the loose limit.

I found the toughest part about loosing weight was how I kept having to move around my diet as I got thinner.....I could get away with cheating a few times (cheating in the sense that maybe I ate 2700 calories 1 time a week or something) when I started yet the lighter I got, the less I could cheat. Plus, you lose ALL that weight initially and it gets harder to take off the less you have on.
 
But does exercise keep the weight off?
I used to walk and hike a lot but 18 months ago I became way too busy to keep it up. I've gained a stone in that time without my diet changing.

The results of exercise are cumulative. You can't stop exercising and keep weight off while maintaining the same diet.

Find a different method of exercising. Make the time. You should be able to find 3-3.5 hours a week to exercise.
 
Seeing as its kind of on topic anyway, what is everyones views on supplements like whey protein and creatine.

Creatine is found naturally in your body and it's used to synthesize ATP, which powers your muscles. Creatine is also found in small amounts in meat. The idea behind creatine supplementation is to saturate your muscles to capacity to increase the intensity you can work out at (and therefore increase your results). Whey protein is a protein isolate. Aside from the protein from cooked eggs, whey protein is one of if not the most bioavailable protein you can consume. Studies show whey to be more effective than other isolate sources for muscular hypertrophy.
What would someone suggest for someone battling "bad genes" (waistband wise in the family) with these stats:

It's my professional opinion that "bad genes" are over-hyped. It's not the inheritance of genes but the inheritance of lifestyle that's truly the issue here; our gene pool didn't suddenly devolve into mediocrity over the last 5 decades, our lifestyles did. Your genes are going to be the determining factor between being fit and being an Olympic athlete, and there are legitimate obstacles that your genetics will present, but if the goal is to simply be reasonably fit they should not stop you.
5 foot 6 inches
150ish pounds (apparently a decent amount is muscle, so said the nurse at my surgery)

I'm looking to lose a bit of a small gut i have going and some fat on my chest, as well as build up a bit more muscle.

Any suggestions? I'm looking to hit the gym on campus around 3 times a week or really whenever im bored.

As Leekohler said, talk to somebody and learn proper form. I can not stress this enough. 95% of my clients — even ones who are fit — can't do a proper bench press. 100% of them can't do a proper squat. You're going to do a squat and your glutes are just going to flop there and your vastus lateralis is going to fire up with your vastus medialis limping along like a car with a flat tire. If you're lucky you're going to use maybe 33% of the muscles you should be using, and the one that is firing is already going to be chronically overworked. The same thing is going to happen on the bench press, you'll over-protract your shoulder girdle, your pectorals won't be isolated or properly stretched, and you're just going to be firing maybe 40-50% of your potential. If you're working your ass off but only using 1/3 of your ass, you're not only going to get tired way quicker, but you're wasting 2/3 of your potential.

Find somebody who knows what "glute activation" is, and just listen to them.

Oh, and do yoga. Not to lose weight, but to be healthy. I hate yoga, I think it's boring and annoying, but for a beginner who is self-directed, it's really useful. If you improve your flexibility you improve your biomechanics. Just getting your hamstrings stretched out improves your squat form immensely and automagically.

@The article:

The article was only as good as it's source, and it sounds to me like the author has the right idea, but isn't really going to a very good gym. I know the fitness industry in the United States is way different than it is here, and not in a good way. Sales driven gyms that are interested in getting people signed up for a bajillion sessions with trainers with high school track and field and a certificate they got over a weekend selling supplements are not a good source of information, and are in no small way playing an integral part in ensuring sub-optimal health.

Going to a gym any time after you're 20 years old isn't working out. It's actually a lot closer to post-rehab. You spent 20 years largely sedentary in a chair in a school eight hours a day, with gym class consisting of the jocks throwing balls at you and high-fiving each other. Humans didn't evolve to sit in a chair for large periods of time, they evolved to be constantly moving, to be upright, and to engage in long periods of slow, easy motion punctuated by brief moments of intense activity. Think about the position your body is in when you're sitting in a chair. Now lay down on your side and put your arms and legs in that position; all of a sudden it's like you're curled up in the fetal position. Some of your muscles are all scrunched up all day, and others are all stretched out. When you get up and walk around half of your body is a limp noodle floppin' around, and the other half is all tight and hunch-y.

Sitting around all day in a chair isn't healthy. I'm not suggesting that after 20 years of school your body is a useless wreck, but if those 20 years had been spent "as nature intended" you would have spent a lot more time moving, a lot more time upright, a lot more time sleeping, and a lot more time using those muscles. These are things that we just don't get in school. And it's not like the school structure would have to change radically to accommodate this, it'd really just be a matter of getting some truly well educated gym teachers and making gym compulsory for all of school. Yoga twice a week for half an hour and bam, solved. Don't build a hospital if you can just put in a stop sign.

The part about "rewarding" yourself after exercise is a big part of the problem, as well. Exercise isn't a good deed for which you should be rewarded. Exercise should simply be a part of life. The state of phys ed in schools is truly appalling, and I could probably launch into a diatribe here long enough to qualify for a University essay. We have to get out of the mindset that exercise is this thing that is hard and crappy and like work, and recognize that some good habits, a good attitude and a little integration is really all you need. I would kind of like to make my profession entirely irrelevant and see it relegated to rehab and post-rehab for accidents and injuries through some school reforms.

If you're already healthy and fit, you can maintain that with only about two to three hours of "work" a week. That's it. According to the Neilson ratings, the average person watches 4.5 hours of television per day.
 
But does exercise keep the weight off?
I used to walk and hike a lot but 18 months ago I became way too busy to keep it up. I've gained a stone in that time without my diet changing.
Keeping calories consumed and calories burned in balance will keep the weight off. If you burn fewer calories you need to consumer fewer calories otherwise you'll gain weight.


Lethal
 
When calories increased in body we getting fat in body so we should contro it by work out or hard work....:eek:
 
Weight is simple : Calories In / Calories Out. You can do this 100% through food intake alone or you can mix and match exercise and food intake. Lifting weight hardly burns any calories, so forget that and Cardio isn't as effective as one would think (20 minutes of jogging barely burns a Whopper Jr., let alone all that other crap).

Also, you can lose weight on junk food alone, calories are calories. A whopper Jr. is 400 calories. Eat 3 a day and only that, that's only 1200 calories, I can guarantee that's a deficit for anyone here. You'll be shedding weight like crazy. Of course, you'll have a big fiber/vitamin/nutrients deficiency to go with it and be hungry all the time.

You can also get fat on the healthy stuff. Eat too many fruits/veggies/whole grains (especially whole grains) and you can quickly be in over-calorie consumption territory. Yep, you can get fat on salad.

There is no magic trick. Count your calories, know your metabolism, know your calorie expenditure. You'll keep the weight off. If you happen to want to get in shape to go with your new slimmer body, then yes, do work out. That will work your muscles (be it your heart through cardio or your other muscles doing strength training). Don't expect to gain weight just because you're lifting weights, you need to ingest more calories than you burn for your body to build muscle mass (hence why all the "Mass building" supplements are simply high caloric powders).

The label is there for a reason guys, learn to read it and put those ingredients on a scale to know how much you're consuming :

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(EDIT : Yes, re-reading this, I realise I like Whopper Jrs. I haven't eaten one in like 2 years though and hardly feel a need to anymore, I grill my own burgers now, much tastier and more healthy, with better meats and breads).
 
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I'm in my 40's too. Nothing has changed. If I stop lifting, I lose weight pretty fast. It's a constant battle for me to keep weight on.

Nice problem to have. (Especially for programmers, IT professionals, digital video folks, and others who spend many hours a day sitting down.)

For others, who are either overweight or whose weight fluctuates a lot, try reading Gary Taubes' "Good Calories, Bad Calories". Bottom line for almost everyone with a normal metabolism who has a weight problem, and would like to right-size: train yourself to avoid sweets: sugar and starch. No sugar (white, brown, HFCS, milk (lactose), high-sugar fruits (e.g. grapes)), white flour, white rice, white corn, any other high-starch grains and vegetables. (Oh, and, skip the zero-calorie artificial sweeteners, too.) Naturally, since you can't live on 100% protein, this actually means eating significant (ie not "low") fat.

And the real executive summary about this book: We don't have nearly as much knowledge about the science of nutrition as most people think we do, but, we actually know more about maintaining proper body weight than many people realize: Ultra-low sugar, low-starch diet and modest exercise (extreme exercise is *not* necessary) are often all that is required.

Read the book.
 
Nice problem to have. (Especially for programmers, IT professionals, digital video folks, and others who spend many hours a day sitting down.

My husband is actually an IT professional and can't keep weight on ... But he doesn't have a very typical relationship with food. He'll often forget to eat if he's really busy, and he almost never eats till he's completely full. He also doesn't have much of a sweet tooth.

For me, the only thing that works is counting calories. I'm pregnant right now so obviously I'm not trying to lose weight, but when I was, I used a BodyMedia fit to track how many calories I burned and kept a careful log of everything I at. My exercise was mostly running, because I like food and am happy when I get to eat more of it. ;)
 
This is true, but the person matters more than just plain exercise. For the majority of people it is the diet that counts the most, but this ties in with your body and genetics. Some people can eat McDonalds everyday and be as skinny as a toothpick , while others gain weight rapidly. My brother has my fathers metabolism, he never gains weight. As where I have my mothers metabolism I gain weight and it's hard to loose it. There are aloft of factors that play a role in your weight the one mentioned in this article is behavioral and is quite common. So the person is really what counts, that is why they have nutritionists at the doctors office.
 
Nice problem to have. (Especially for programmers, IT professionals, digital video folks, and others who spend many hours a day sitting down.)

I'm an art director and also spend most of the day sitting. It's no excuse.You have to make time to get off your butt and move. It's what our bodies are intended to do. I also play hockey, so it's very important I maintain my weight. My metabolism problems are definitely not a fun problem to have, I assure you.
 
I'm an art director and also spend most of the day sitting. It's no excuse.You have to make time to get off your butt and move. It's what our bodies are intended to do. I also play hockey, so it's very important I maintain my weight. My metabolism problems are definitely not a fun problem to have, I assure you.

I don't get why you keep repeating that lifting weights is what keeps your weight high. Keep the same diet (including any protein supplements you take) you have now, stop lifting weights and you'll keep your weight on.

In fact, lifting actual plays against you as you build muscle mass, you up your metabolism. If anything, it seems you want to "slow" it down, which would mean burning muscle mass and gaining fat mass.

Just eat more calories.

Of course, lifting weights and being active is much healthier, but still, lifting weights is not going to magically create mass on your body. Remember the basis of physics : Nothing lost, nothing gained. You can't gain mass by burning energy and breaking down muscles. That's just impossible. You gain mass by what you absorb.
 
Weight is simple : Calories In / Calories Out. You can do this 100% through food intake alone or you can mix and match exercise and food intake. Lifting weight hardly burns any calories, so forget that and Cardio isn't as effective as one would think (20 minutes of jogging barely burns a Whopper Jr., let alone all that other crap).

Also, you can lose weight on junk food alone, calories are calories. A whopper Jr. is 400 calories. Eat 3 a day and only that, that's only 1200 calories, I can guarantee that's a deficit for anyone here. You'll be shedding weight like crazy. Of course, you'll have a big fiber/vitamin/nutrients deficiency to go with it and be hungry all the time.

You can also get fat on the healthy stuff. Eat too many fruits/veggies/whole grains (especially whole grains) and you can quickly be in over-calorie consumption territory. Yep, you can get fat on salad.

There is no magic trick. Count your calories, know your metabolism, know your calorie expenditure. You'll keep the weight off. If you happen to want to get in shape to go with your new slimmer body, then yes, do work out. That will work your muscles (be it your heart through cardio or your other muscles doing strength training). Don't expect to gain weight just because you're lifting weights, you need to ingest more calories than you burn for your body to build muscle mass (hence why all the "Mass building" supplements are simply high caloric powders).

While I appreciate the point you're trying to make, that's still a little too simplistic. Studies have shown that the impact of the calories you eat is dependent on the speed with which they're released. To put it another way, if two meals you eat contain an equal number of calories, the amount of energy stored still might not be the same if one meal consists of refined grains, and the other consists of wholegrains.

This makes sense, because if your blood glucose spikes (refined grains are absorbed quickly), you'll release much more insulin, and thereby store more energy in the form of fat, versus a slower release (wholegrains are absorbed over time) leading to lower insulin levels, and therefore less fat storage. This is because the pathway for insulin release from pancreatic beta cells is in response to high blood glucose specifically, not number of calories.

To make it even more complicated, research suggests that obesity comes in different forms with different underlying mechanisms depending on diet. That's physiology/endocrinology for you! Complicated stuff. :D

Am I saying this should change your behavior - not necessarily, but it's worth considering. Sure, you can lose weight eating twinkies. No, there's isn't a magic trick. But if you eat in a particular way, you'll make it easier on yourself while simultaneously getting the health benefits of eating well.

Sources: http://ajplegacy.physiology.org/content/228/2/543.short
http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v29/n11/abs/0803017a.html
 
edit: Good post, Daffodil.

I don't get why you keep repeating that lifting weights is what keeps your weight high. Keep the same diet (including any protein supplements you take) you have now, stop lifting weights and you'll keep your weight on.

In fact, lifting actual plays against you as you build muscle mass, you up your metabolism. If anything, it seems you want to "slow" it down, which would mean burning muscle mass and gaining fat mass.

Just eat more calories.

Of course, lifting weights and being active is much healthier, but still, lifting weights is not going to magically create mass on your body. Remember the basis of physics : Nothing lost, nothing gained. You can't gain mass by burning energy and breaking down muscles. That's just impossible. You gain mass by what you absorb.

Errr, I don't think this is entirely accurate. For many people with rapid metabolisms, weights are the only way to put on mass and keep it... unless you mean overeating so much one simply becomes fat, which isn't exactly wise. Calories and protein can only do so much.
 
It may not make you thin but it'll certainly help you be attractive and healthy.

I have a very very fast metabolism myself and I lift weights and do exercise to maintain weight, partly for the muscle and partly because I just don't have an appetite otherwise.
 
Errr, I don't think this is entirely accurate. For many people with rapid metabolisms, weights are the only way to put on mass and keep it... unless you mean overeating so much one simply becomes fat, which isn't exactly wise. Calories and protein can only do so much.

And where does this Mass magically come from ? Lifting weights does not produce mass. You need to acquire mass from something. Weight is a function of calories and unless you find some glaring proof of weight coming from something else in a medical journal, it's all it is. You can't gain mass if you don't absorb mass, simple physics here : Nothing is loss, nothing is gained.

Rapid metabolism only means you burn more calories. Putting on mass with a rapid metabolism means simply consuming more calories (which doesn't mean over-eating, it can be done through calorie dense foods like nuts/high-sugar fruits/red meats) to offset it.

Lifting weights breaks down muscles and does burn some calories (not a whole lot). If you absorb more calories than you burn, with your broken down muscles, your body will rebuild and strengthen your lean body mass, or if you want, your muscles. This will in turn lead to higher metabolism since you now have more muscle mass, resulting in faster metabolism. So in essence, with a rapid metabolism, lifting weights doesn't help you get your weight up, it actually works against you by making your metabolism even faster.

This isn't rocket science. Weight is a simple Calories In - Calories Out ratio. Lifting or not has no impact on weight by itself, it's the whole protein supplements/caloric intake that goes with weight training that actually builds the muscle mass and increases body weight.
 
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