Why FaceID doesn't automatically open your phone without a swipe up!

Renho

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So i guess why you need to swipe up after you unlock it is because of the notifications. For people that actually look at the notifications, like me. So when Faceid just works cause you're already looking at it, you can still see your notifications before it goes to the home screen. And this is also why notifications aren't enabled by default till you unlock it with faceid....

but my question is, will they make this an option to change in settings, like for people that don't care about notifications. Will you be able to disable swipe up to get to home screen after wake?
 

Ramiarna

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I truly hope they would include such an option but I strongly doubt it. I never cared for notifications. Also, I can always swipe from the "left ear" to see the notifications so I dont understand the point of the swipe up to access the Home Screen.
 

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There’s an option to use face ID which is less secure by having the option to unlock without fully looking at it
 

Jinkst

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I care about notifications, but that’s probably a side effect of having friends who text me.
I wish I could have liked this more than once.

I believe the OP is probably right, along with it also being for security. Even with Touch ID you still need to make a conscious decision to touch the Home Button so it does make sense in line with that step.
 

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Absolutely not. You’re lucky that you got rest finger to unlock back at the last minute when they changed that paradigm.
 

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I believe I read that it will queue up that you swiped to unlock, and then when it ids your face it will just go to the home screen. Meaning you don't have to wait for the thing to show 'unlocked' symbol before you swipe up.

So it will probably feel like it is unlocking with a swipe up in the same way as slide-to-unlock wihtout a passcode in the old days.
 
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No, it will never happen. I personally think it has nothing to do with notifications. They don't want your phone unlocking without some type of physical intervention and I agree with this.
Well you have to pick up your phone or tap to wake it, that could be the physical intervention you mention. I don't know if Apple will ever implement, but I think they should for those that want it.
 
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Renho

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I really hope it's an option. I would love to skip the notification screen altogether and go right to the home screen.

Wake and look. Home screen.
That’s kinda scary if you think about it. Touch ID you have to physically touch it. Now with this it just has to see ur face. So when ur handing it over for someone just to look at, it can be unlocked in the process with no action. Just with no action seems scary really.
 

Derekeys

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Well you still have to wake it up, I feel I can hand it to someone without waking it up and looking directly at the TrueDepth camera sensor 15" - 20" from my face at the correct angle.

But, I see your point, I could see it unlocking accidentally in a niche scenario.

But to play devil's advocate, I can do the same thing now. Hand it to someone, accidentally have waked it (raise to wake probably), and rest my finger on the home button while passing it off, which would unlock it.

To be honest, just as scary is not have any kind of locking mechanism, I know people that still don't use a passcode, touch id, nothing. And THAT is an existing option!

So, again, I just want the option.
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No, it will never happen. I personally think it has nothing to do with notifications. They don't want your phone unlocking without some type of physical intervention and I agree with this.
This isn't true. Apple provides the ability to turn off all security by disabling the passcode. That is an option. So I think this option should exist (however less secure than your scenario, which I agree would be less secure).
 

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Well you have to pick up your phone or tap to wake it, that could be the physical intervention you mention. I don't know if Apple will ever implement, but I think they should for those that want it.
Well you still have to wake it up, I feel I can hand it to someone without waking it up and looking directly at the TrueDepth camera sensor 15" - 20" from my face at the correct angle.

But, I see your point, I could see it unlocking accidentally in a niche scenario.

But to play devil's advocate, I can do the same thing now. Hand it to someone, accidentally have waked it (raise to wake probably), and rest my finger on the home button while passing it off, which would unlock it.

To be honest, just as scary is not have any kind of locking mechanism, I know people that still don't use a passcode, touch id, nothing. And THAT is an existing option!

So, again, I just want the option.
I can see trying to keep ur phone not wake when taking it out of your pocket or handing it over being very hard. Gonna be a battle, How to successfully hand it over without waking..lol

Ya having the option is good, but I doubt they want there notification section to be totally bypassed. I think notifications are great, you can reply to a text without ever unlocking. But then again how will that work actually? You will be looking at it and it will be awake replying to a text on lock screen. It will unlock automatically..hmmmmm!?!
 

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I think it's great option to have, but having the phone unlock automatically is quite annoying when you want to just see if you have any notifications. My current phone is the Note 8 and face unlock opens my phone automatically even when I just wanted to check the time or notifications. Thankfully on Android your notifications aren't cleared away on the lock screen, but iOS clears your latest notifications on the lock screen once the phone is unlocked.
 

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I think it's great option to have, but having the phone unlock automatically is quite annoying when you want to just see if you have any notifications. My current phone is the Note 8 and face unlock opens my phone automatically even when I just wanted to check the time or notifications. Thankfully on Android your notifications aren't cleared away on the lock screen, but iOS clears your latest notifications on the lock screen once the phone is unlocked.
They changed it, you have to press the x to clear them.
 
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I can see trying to keep ur phone not wake when taking it out of your pocket or handing it over being very hard. Gonna be a battle, How to successfully hand it over without waking..lol

Ya having the option is good, but I doubt they want there notification section to be totally bypassed. I think notifications are great, you can reply to a text without ever unlocking. But then again how will that work actually? You will be looking at it and it will be awake replying to a text on lock screen. It will unlock automatically..hmmmmm!?!
Yup, pick up your phone and it will be unlocked already, giving you the option to reply right on the lock screen. Really convenient.
 

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Again, that is my own choice. I personally don't like replying in the lock screen because when extra notifications come in I miss them. This is all a second or two difference at best. I'm betting for the whole experience it will all be fine, in fact, I'm counting on it when I go to get mine in a few weeks but for now, I know I'd rather bypass the lock screen and be right at the home screen as soon as possible.

Oh and you're absolutely right, Apple does not want me to use the phone in a way they didn't intend. I've been fine with that for 7 years, I adjust. But it's ok to hope :)
 

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Yup, pick up your phone and it will be unlocked already, giving you the option to reply right on the lock screen. Really convenient.
I love replying on the lock screen. So great for when in meetings or your girl is talking to you and ur not really paying attention..lol
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Again, that is my own choice. I personally don't like replying in the lock screen because when extra notifications come in I miss them. This is all a second or two difference at best. I'm betting for the whole experience it will all be fine, in fact, I'm counting on it when I go to get mine in a few weeks but for now, I know I'd rather bypass the lock screen and be right at the home screen as soon as possible.

Oh and you're absolutely right, Apple does not want me to use the phone in a way they didn't intend. I've been fine with that for 7 years, I adjust. But it's ok to hope :)
Lol, hey you like what you like and are paying $1300-$1500 for this thing. You should be able to do what you want with it...
 

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I'd love that option. Wake, look, home screen. Then if I want to, pull down for notifications.
Ya it would be easy, but if you think about it as you’re taking it out of your pocket you can swipe up before even looking at it then when you look at it, it opens... so that’s a nice feature...
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I know they stay in the notification center until you clear it, but I thought they disappeared once you unlock/lock.
You can pull them down from the top left I think.
 

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Ya it would be easy, but if you think about it as you’re taking it out of your pocket you can swipe up before even looking at it then when you look at it, it opens... so that’s a nice feature...

That is under the impression that swiping is "waking" the phone. Cuz I can't imagine you can swipe on a non "woken" screen. And since the phone is already vertical in your pocket, taking it of your pocket won't activate raise to wake as that only works when it changes from a flat orientation to vertical.

The swipe up is really my only gripe. For those of us who don't care about the notification screen I don't see so what the harm is in just allowing that to be an optional thing.

Not a big deal, but I do hope it's an option. :)
 

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why, on previous iPhones, if you turn off passcode and touchID then raise to wake... it doesn't go straight to home screen / automatically open?

(rhetorical)