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You asked for ONE example. sigh. It's your choice. Buy the phone YOU like the best. It doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks. Think for yourself. Good luck.
When you only got one example to make a point and reply "iMessage" and then refer to Android devices as cheap and crappy you might as well admit that you've run out of serious arguments. On iPhone supporters defence, I got way better answers than that later. And btw I'm not even here to support Android. I've barely used Android, I'm only disappointed by paying premium for iPhone and it not living up to my expectations.
 
When you only got one example to make a point and reply "iMessage" and then refer to Android devices as cheap and crappy you might as well admit that you've run out of serious arguments. On iPhone supporters defence, I got way better answers than that later. And btw I'm not even here to support Android. I've barely used Android, I'm only disappointed by paying premium for iPhone and it not living up to my expectations.

so either you continue using it, or sell it and do yourself a favor & buy something else and stop asking random people what they like. seriously - how does it matter to you?
 
When you only got one example to make a point and reply "iMessage" and then refer to Android devices as cheap and crappy you might as well admit that you've run out of serious arguments. On iPhone supporters defence, I got way better answers than that later. And btw I'm not even here to support Android. I've barely used Android, I'm only disappointed by paying premium for iPhone and it not living up to my expectations.


Where did you get the idea he only had one example? You asked a specific question, you asked for ONE example. This was after he had given you the best answer. that wasn't good enough for you, so you demanded "just one" example.

You never wanted an answer to your question. You just want to argue.

Have a nice day.
 
When you only got one example to make a point and reply "iMessage" and then refer to Android devices as cheap and crappy you might as well admit that you've run out of serious arguments. On iPhone supporters defence, I got way better answers than that later. And btw I'm not even here to support Android. I've barely used Android, I'm only disappointed by paying premium for iPhone and it not living up to my expectations.
Again, you simply asked for an example, and you got back an example, nothing more and nothing less, just as there isn't anything more or less to read into it.
 
Yea I asked for an example, he chose to give me one (if he had a better one he would have chosen it), it was a bad one and one that proved my initial point. Get over it, iMessage is not worth 900€
 
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Again, you simply asked for an example, and you got back an example, nothing more and nothing less, just as there isn't anything more or less to read into it.

Yea I asked for an example, he chose to give me one (if he had a better one he would have chosen it), it was a bad one and one that proved my initial point. Get over it fanboys, iMessage is not worth 900€
That was not the question you asked, you asked "...what kind of needs can an iPhone meet that a cheaper Android device can't?"

Listing one reason doesn't suddenly mean it's the only reason. You're twisting words.
 
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Personal preference. I've had almost every iPhone, and have had a HTC one (m7) a nexus 5 and a one plus one. The whole "iPhones a toy" and "androids incredibly lagy" and other arguments are BS. People forget that these things are products and not politics, one isn't trying to destroy your world while the other promises to make it better. I get MORE work done on an iPhone than I ever did android. Android was far more customizable but you literally had to customize it because all the stock experiences were crap (even googles) IN MY OPINION. I always wanted to customize my iPhone because after years it got kind of boring, I literally had to customize my androids because the stock versions in my opinion weren't functional. Also how all androids scroll, don't know why but it realllllllly bothers me. Rooting was pretty interesting, but jailbreaking is far easier to preform, reverse and the process is also safer as well, you also have to remember unless your getting a extremely popular device unlocked or on a forgiving network it's likely not even possible to root the device.

Tldr:

Both operating systems are extremely well developed now and unless you pick a cheapo off brand android phone your likely to have a good experience either way. It literally just depends which one floats your boat more.


Pick one you like, remember it's a tool designed to make your life easier not to consume it, and just go on with your life.
 
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Yea I asked for an example, he chose to give me one (if he had a better one he would have chosen it), it was a bad one and one that proved my initial point. Get over it fanboys, iMessage is not worth 900€

Lol so now all of the people here are fanboys. You are a special kind of soul let me tell you. Here is the thing you seem to be having a very difficult time understanding. It is 2016. The iPhone is what, almost 10 years old? There is nothing new to see here. Premium build? Solid camera? Top of the line customer service? Timely software updates? Simplicity? Consistent performance? Integration? iMessage? Intangibles like look, feel, brand, etc? There are plenty of reasons people prefer the iPhone but NONE of these are new and none of them would have taken more than a simple google search. I am pretty sure outside of iMessage, most android users can list every one of those things as the reasons they love their phone as well.

This isn't rocket science. You don't need strangers to justify your purchase any more than I need to ask you if having pizza for dinner was the right choice for my family. If you have used an iPhone, and cannot find reasons on your own to justify keeping it at the price you paid, return it. Get a different phone. Here in the states it's called using common sense.
 
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If you're immersed in the Apple ecosystem, having multiple Apple products, then that alone is sufficient reason to buy an iPhone instead of an Android-based phone. For those of us that aren't, iPhone/Android trade-offs revolve instead around needs and perceived value. I bought a 64GB 6s in November, costing about $800 with tax. I returned it after 5 days. It was a great phone, but I kept thinking that it wasn't doing anything (for me, that is) that my two-year old Galaxy S4 wasn't doing. I felt guilty owning the 6s, hogging family resources better used elsewhere, along with obssessing over maintaining its pristine condition. My son-in-law, on the other hand bought a 6s solely because it could take a good picture faster than anything else he tried. Since his phone chronicles my grandson's early years, that was reason enough. Both of us approached the iPhone with different expectations, and with different results. The same will be true with you, OP. Decide what's important; what we think is irrelevant. But don't be lazy and ask us to do your sorting out for you. :)
 
It's 2016 Boys and Girls...

The Apple ecosystem no longer offers functionality not available elsewhere. Step out into the sunshine and you'll see there're other excellent choices.

Using the feature rich Google Ecosystem, I enjoy everything available in iOS and so much more.

One huge advantage is I'm no longer locked in an Apple only environment.

Google Ecosystem includes: Calendar, Contacts, Chrome, Gmail, Bookmarks, Maps, Photos, Hangouts, Groups, Drive, Docs, Sheets, Slides, Forms, Drawings, Sites, Translate and so much more. Best of all, I currently enjoy using my personal Google ecosystem on my iPhone, iPad and Macs as well as my Android and Windows platforms.

The Google Ecosystem with its amazing Google Now Intelligent Assistant is so robust that it positively drawfs Apple's aging environment.

Sure, Google's predictive systems are light years ahead of Apple's : just be prepared to have your data collected, analysed and data mined for commercial purposes.

Cheers !
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So in short my history with iPhone is this: In 2005 I got my first Apple product, an iPod nano (that led me to having a super organised iTunes music library and later became a reason to consider iPhone over Android). In 2008 however I opted for a Blackberry Bold instead of an iPhone 3G which turned out to be a huge mistake corrected in 2010 when I got an iPhone 3GS and stopped using iPods all along. Since then I've got a 4s and a few months ago I got a 6s (in 48 instalments, no contract). Despite being on a relatively low budget I value my mobile phones a lot and am willing to pay good money to get a good device.

So a few days ago a friend of mine bought a Huawei Ascend P8 for 1/3 of the price I bought my iPhone 6S and it came down to comparing our phones and him asking me to show him what my phone can do more or do better. Not only did I struggle to find anything essential to show him but his phone's camera features and picture quality would crap all over 6s.

So can someone please prove to me that I am not a big fool for falling for Apple's hype and what exactly justifies the X3 more money I spent? Mind you I no longer use iTunes and opt for streaming apps.

You are literally opening a Pandora's box by asking these sort of questions ;-)

Both OSs are good in their own way : have their own plus and minus points. And of course there will be some impassioned lovers and haters and mostly logical, i-dont-care-about-what-phone-you-buy-with-your-money type.

Its like asking people which colour they prefer : blue or red ? Different people will have different answers and all the reasoning behind their preference will be mostly subjective and hence hard to analyse.

Cheers !
 
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Sure, Google's predictive systems are light years ahead of Apple's : just be prepared to have your data collected, analysed and data mined for commercial purposes.
Your naive trust in Apple is very revealing.

Yet it's proof positive that you and millions of others have been thoroughly convinced that it's OK to live in denial since Apple's job is to protect you.

The reality you're hiding from, is that any Smartphone you carry is the NSA/Big Data/Chinese Governments wet dream. Don't look now but your every move is in full view.

Wake Up its Life Circa 2016.
 
Your naive trust in Apple is very revealing.

Yet it's proof positive that you and millions of others have been thoroughly convinced that it's OK to live in denial since Apple's job is to protect you.

The reality you're hiding from, is that any Smartphone you carry is the NSA/Big Data/Chinese Governments wet dream. Don't look now but your every move is in full view.

Wake Up its Life Circa 2016.

Firstly, Apple doesn't try to protect users privacy due to the goodness in their hearts : its because they understand that users want it and also, in some markets, like China for example, if the Chinese government were to even sniff the possibility of some American company(and by your statement, Big Daddy etc) collecting data on its citizens, they would waste no time in kicking out or imposing restrictions.

Case in point, your beloved Google left China and Facebook is not there at all. Its a huge market and makes one wonder why they wouldn't want to be there ? Heck Zuckerberg even tried to speak to the Chinese Premier in Chinese when he was visiting the US.

And yes, I know its 2016 as I wasn't born yesterday i.e. 2016 as that's only relevant for the kids.

Cheers !
 
Your burning desire to covet and praise Apple has clouded whatever degree of individual thinking you may or may not possess.

At NO Time have I stated I trust Google with privacy. Apparently that's escaped you.

What I have stated is that the Google Ecosystem is an excellent one, with greater usefulness and relevance than Apple's system that's focused on keeping customers captive. That's Apple's big win, convincing customers that the Cupertino Company will keep them safe at night.
 
Your burning desire to covet and praise Apple has clouded whatever degree of individual thinking you may or may not possess.

At NO Time have I stated I trust Google with privacy. Apparently that's escaped you.

What I have stated is that the Google Ecosystem is an excellent one, with greater usefulness and relevance than Apple's system that's focused on keeping customers captive. That's Apple's big win, convincing customers that the Cupertino Company will keep them safe at night.

Googles ecosystem is really good, the problem is that a good chunk of it is available on other platforms. Theres nothing tying it to android only, unless your talking about the play store which is no greater than iTunes or whatever I'm sure Microsoft offers for digital content. I can use googles products on my iPhone, and honestly I don't find it any harder to do so on an iPhone than I did on any android.
 
Your burning desire to covet and praise Apple has clouded whatever degree of individual thinking you may or may not possess.

At NO Time have I stated I trust Google with privacy. Apparently that's escaped you.

What I have stated is that the Google Ecosystem is an excellent one, with greater usefulness and relevance than Apple's system that's focused on keeping customers captive. That's Apple's big win, convincing customers that the Cupertino Company will keep them safe at night.

Looking at the third paragraph, that first sentence is completely objective as I couldn't agree more with you. Apple's 'aging' systems are held back by its lack of desire to capture user data and privacy concerns. Of course, one can have either convenience and less privacy (Android) or more robust privacy and less convenience (Apple). One cannot delude oneself into thinking that one can enjoy both at the same time.

The second statement of your is complete drivel.

Of course you don't trust Google with your privacy but are quick to 'praise' Google Now and other stuff that though powerful, are all running off the back of the information that you are providing it. Where do you think Google Now gets your frequently visited restaurants list from ?

If I do praise Apple, I'm also one to acknowlege, criticise and discuss their failings and shortcomings.

Cheers !
 
Your burning desire to covet and praise Apple has clouded whatever degree of individual thinking you may or may not possess.

At NO Time have I stated I trust Google with privacy. Apparently that's escaped you.

What I have stated is that the Google Ecosystem is an excellent one, with greater usefulness and relevance than Apple's system that's focused on keeping customers captive. That's Apple's big win, convincing customers that the Cupertino Company will keep them safe at night.
It's funny. Every single post I see from you is bashing Apple for whatever grievances you have, while also calling fans of Apple names. If you hate Apple and people that like their product so much, why hang out on MacRumors? Seems like a fairly pathetic and self serving attempt to bolster your own ego and superiority complex.
 
It's funny. Every single post I see from you is bashing Apple for whatever grievances you have, while also calling fans of Apple names. If you hate Apple and people that like their product so much, why hang out on MacRumors? Seems like a fairly pathetic and self serving attempt to bolster your own ego and superiority complex.
I do realize you make a deliberate effort to launch a personal attack. All because truth telling observations from an experienced Apple customer, can make for an uncomfortable read.
 
Macs have never been for everyone, but they're fantastic for a lot of people. I can understand why some truly informed people might prefer Windows, and some Linux. (Same with Nintendo versus Sony or Microsoft.)

I edit videos, program, compose and record music and audio, do 3D modelling and rendering, develop for the web, write, draw, notate, and more – I'm not rich, but my entire income comes from artistic stuff I enjoy. I'm honestly not sure whether that would have happened if I hadn't always owned a Mac since high school.
[doublepost=1460695877][/doublepost](That's to say, if iPhones don't do that for you versus Android phones, then I'm sure it's fine. I don't even use a phone service provider, but the iPhone and Apple Watch have certainly become part of my everyday life if not my livelihood. I could point to reasons, but I've never tried the alternative in that case. For the moment, I'm happy to stick with the company who invented the modern smartphone.)
 
I do realize you make a deliberate effort to launch a personal attack. All because truth telling observations from an experienced Apple customer, can make for an uncomfortable read.
Proving my point without skipping a beat. Bravo.
 
So can someone please prove to me that I am not a big fool for falling for Apple's hype and what exactly justifies the X3 more money I spent? Mind you I no longer use iTunes and opt for streaming apps.


I have owned Xperia Z3, Z3+ , Z5, Galaxy S6, HTC one M9, and Nexus 5 ( I had to, while developing our app for both ecosystems etc ) and while they were a fun "new toy" tech diversion for me, I was never compelled to move away from iPhone for more than a day.

I would often use Xperia in the rain in Tokyo on trips, especially on the serious wet rain days, and I spend a good amount of time in Japan during the rainy season, but once the sunshine came out the sim was switched back into the iPhone and it was always a relief to go back to it.

For me it's the simplicity...the "feeling" of the OS...

plus:

1.) no annoying android back button,
2.) I am more comfortable with the iPhone email app, how it feels like the email app on my mac, and how new replies float to the top...
For some reason the Gmail app likes to burry important replies deep down where I'd never find them and I run my business on email, so that won't do.
Are there work-arounds? I'm sure there are but despite hour long tech advice from lots of android pals,
my emails still ended up buried.
3.) oh man, that BACK button!
4.) You have to turn android off no matter what if there's something else going on around you, because when you look back down, apps are moved around, missing, or I accidentally did XTZ operation. On iPhone I can look up and the gremlins don't take over.
5.) The camera. Galaxy cameras are ok. I'm an artist, my eye prefers iPhone's camera.
6.) The apple store and all that comes along with it, from Tokyo to NYC to a small town, the Apple store.
7.) iMessage: My entire family is on there and its free worldwide.
8.) iCloud photo sharing .. I take a photo of my kids, press one button, and 11 family members see the pic within seconds. No extra steps, no having to log into something each time... just take a pic, press the rainbow flower share thing and from Japan and Korea to LA and NYC we are all sharing.
Yes, I realize there's a zillion other ways to share. I tried to get my inlaws and great grandmother in her 90s on Google+, drop box, etc etc ... not going to happen. iPhone, we are all on and all happy.

9.) This is a new one... The PRICE! I like to carry 2 iPhones at all times because if I drop mine, I need a replacement within seconds so I can run my business. So the new SE at $400 is amazing and the perfect backup ( for me ).

As for the hype? Where is there hype from Apple?
I see rappers pouring booze on the Samsungs, Iron Man on HTC... uh, nobody marketing Xperia, and then Apple has an annual stage announcement where an old executive comes out and weeks later there's lines around the block for days. Is that hype? Or do they just kick butt at making things people really like.

So that's just me.
Others will 100% disagree.

Those guys on Droid Life love to talk smack vs apple, so I guess it's like a Sega vs Nintendo blast processing thing for them? Not sure. I guess that's fun for young people? Like a sports team thing?

Android has always felt more like PC Engine / Turbo graft 16 to me... Looks awesome, but once I get one home, eh I want my Super Famicom back.
 
For the OP: Had a bunch of phones including 6S Plus and other android phones. I sold my 6S Plus and got a Galaxy S7 Edge and absolutely do not miss the Iphone at all. The Galaxy is fantastic with really great battery life plus it is fun to use. Looks good and feels good. Samsung hit this one out of the park.
 
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