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how is the macbook pro NOT silent?

Really depends what you do with it.

I've owned an iBook, PowerBook and two MacBook Pro's and they've all been silent during normal use. Working, coding, watching videos, playing music, surfing the web. But if I were to encode video, launch a game like WoW? They get super loud. Everyone of the Mac notebooks I've had get very loud under those load scenarios.

And that is where the complaints come from that Apple designs their notebooks for silent operation when you're not doing much but when you really push them they get very noisy.
 
Really depends what you do with it.

I've owned an iBook, PowerBook and two MacBook Pro's and they've all been silent during normal use. Working, coding, watching videos, playing music, surfing the web. But if I were to encode video, launch a game like WoW? They get super loud. Everyone of the Mac notebooks I've had get very loud under those load scenarios.

And that is where the complaints come from that Apple designs their notebooks for silent operation when you're not doing much but when you really push them they get very noisy.

weird, i never hear my rmbp even when i use iFlickr to convert mkv videos while watching a HD video at the same time in bed. my old mbp only gets "loud" while watching flash videos for a long time but its still nothing compared to my old sony vaio
 
I dunno, I just read up on some benchmarks of Iris Pro (Intel 5200 graphics) and while its pretty dang impressive that an integrated GPU can perform in the same class as the current nVidia 650m discrete GPU (not same performance but the fact that they are even compared is impressive), the Iris Pro seems to be reserved for the higher-end Quad-core GPUs. I'd think that strategy is a little "backwards", meaning that a major selling point of Haswell is the improved integrated graphics, so I was hoping that many mid-range / lower end laptops can do away with the need for a discrete GPU, yet offer some gaming / video capabilities with the Iris Pro. As it is now, these laptops would get the Intel HD 4600 graphics (or 5000 "Iris non-pro" in higher end models).

For the rMBP and 15" cMBP (if they even offer it anymore), you think Apple will sell the base models with the "Iris non-pro" (Intel HD 5000 graphics) and say, a nVidia 750m discrete GPU? And in the higher-end units they may included the "Iris Pro" (HD 5200) and same nVidia 750m.
 
For the rMBP and 15" cMBP (if they even offer it anymore), you think Apple will sell the base models with the "Iris non-pro" (Intel HD 5000 graphics) and say, a nVidia 750m discrete GPU? And in the higher-end units they may included the "Iris Pro" (HD 5200) and same nVidia 750m.

Sounds exactly like something Apple would do...

There's even a good chance they don't update the cMBP at all. They just continue to give the new stuff to the rMBP.
 
Sounds exactly like something Apple would do...

There's even a good chance they don't update the cMBP at all. They just continue to give the new stuff to the rMBP.

if they cut price of cMBp 15, I am totally fine with this:D
 
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