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I can understand and appreciate peoples reasoning of why they feel people should just get a point and shoot but the ipad is a multipurpose device. For me, a decent quality camera on an ipad would be an huge asset for my work.

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Am I the only one that wishes Apple reversed the cameras, or even scrapped the rear one and put the extra cash towards a single camera? I doubt I will ever use the rear one since any decent camera phone will out perform the iPad2 cameras on quality and form factor. I'd rather have the better of the two cameras on the front for FaceTime HD.
 
The reason Apple is using a cheap camera is simple, they want people to still buy iPhone 4/5/6 or whatever smaller device that can 'complement' the iPad.
 
The reason Apple is using a cheap camera is simple, they want people to still buy iPhone 4/5/6 or whatever smaller device that can 'complement' the iPad.

Yeah, I really don't think that's the reason. See, the thing is, and I'm letting you in on a little secret here so keep it under your hat:

The iPad is not a phone. People who need a phone aren't going to buy an iPad no matter how good the camera is.

You're welcome.
 
The reason Apple is using a cheap camera is simple, they want people to still buy iPhone 4/5/6 or whatever smaller device that can 'complement' the iPad.

The reason they HAVE to use a VGA camera is because AT&T couldn't afford anymore dropped calls! Could you imagine the data usage on Skype without a wifi connection using a higher res camera! I still have to be by a window just to make a phone call on my iPhone 4!
 
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Even if they put a nicer camera on the iPad 2, people will still complain about it or focus and complain about something else like not having flash.

It doesn't bother me it has mediocre cameras as I have a nice point shoot and DSLR if I wanted better pictures.
 
Yeah, I really don't think that's the reason. See, the thing is, and I'm letting you in on a little secret here so keep it under your hat:

The iPad is not a phone. People who need a phone aren't going to buy an iPad no matter how good the camera is.

You're welcome.

Not sure I get your point. iPad is not a phone, sure. But if they make the iPad a 'complete' device, there will be people who use dumb phones or other cheap phones and forego getting something like an iPhone entirely. It may not be the primary reason to get an iPad, but people justify getting superfluous devices like an iPad in many ways, one of through rationalizing buying a powerful device with checkboxes on the feature list ticked.

What I mentioned is reason #1.

I thought I'd skip the rest since they've been mentioned.
#2 - They want to save it for next time
#3 - Their goal is to optimize video calling (iPhone 4 is perfect size to substitute a point & shoot camera, so in that case, they optimized it for stills.)
#4 - They know most people won't use the camera on tablets, but HAVE to put one in to meet competitors. The only mandatory camera is the front facing one, the rear camera is bonus.


You're welcome.
 
So when does Apple settle for "good enough"? If there was some technical reason not to do it I'd understand. But when the iPhone4 has a pretty good camera in it I don't know why they took the low rez road.
 
Not sure I get your point. iPad is not a phone, sure. But if they make the iPad a 'complete' device, there will be people who use dumb phones or other cheap phones and forego getting something like an iPhone entirely.

I disagree. The differentiating factor between iPads and iPhones is not the camera. It's the phone.
 
The reason Apple is using a cheap camera is simple, they want people to still buy iPhone 4/5/6 or whatever smaller device that can 'complement' the iPad.

So if the camera in the iPad were equivalent to the camera in the iPhone, iPhone sales would dip? Are you sure about this? I don't find it very convincing.
 
So when does Apple settle for "good enough"? If there was some technical reason not to do it I'd understand. But when the iPhone4 has a pretty good camera in it I don't know why they took the low rez road.

Well, let's think about it a little. Could it be that Apple doesn't have a magical endless supply of cameras? Perhaps they need to use most or all of the "better" cameras in iPhones? That's just one of many reasons why the decision to use the current camera might have been made.
 
So if the camera in the iPad were equivalent to the camera in the iPhone, iPhone sales would dip? Are you sure about this? I don't find it very convincing.

Not necessarily, but it would diminish one of the good reasons to get an iPhone.


Well, let's think about it a little. Could it be that Apple doesn't have a magical endless supply of cameras? Perhaps they need to use most or all of the "better" cameras in iPhones? That's just one of many reasons why the decision to use the current camera might have been made.


If there's demand for it, I'm sure some factory would be more than happy to produce it for them. But they don't feel it's the most crucial requirement, for any one of the reasons mentioned in this thread, so they didn't.
 
Even if they put a nicer camera on the iPad 2, people will still complain about it or focus and complain about something else like not having flash.
Yes because the internet is full of complaints regarding the iPhone 4 camera. :confused:

Apple put a bad camera in the original iPhone which was improved with each subsequent generation until the 4 which is an absolutely fantastic camera that nobody gripes about. So IF Apple learned what the consumer likes then why the heck would they (or the users) want them to continue a cycle of incremental improvements rather than plopping in the camera that already proved to the world that a quality sensor can exist in a small device.

It doesn't bother me it has mediocre cameras as I have a nice point shoot and DSLR if I wanted better pictures.
First off, the iPad 2 camera isnt "mediocre". Its pure garbage. (To put things in perspective, 2007's iPhone camera was 2MP and the 2011 iPad 2 camera is less than 1MP)

But as for DSLR's. Ive got a fantastic DSLR too and several thousand dollars of L lenses. But if I dont have it with me then what good is it?
 
If there's demand for it, I'm sure some factory would be more than happy to produce it for them. But they don't feel it's the most crucial requirement, for any one of the reasons mentioned in this thread, so they didn't.

Seriously? Go to google and search for the term "chip shortage." The capacity to produce product is not determined by demand alone. A factory can only make so much of a product and if demand exceeds capacity, nothing will cause more to suddenly appear.
 
Yes because the internet is full of complaints regarding the iPhone 4 camera. :confused:

Apple put a bad camera in the original iPhone which was improved with each subsequent generation until the 4 which is an absolutely fantastic camera that nobody gripes about. So IF Apple learned what the consumer likes then why the heck would they (or the users) want them to continue a cycle of incremental improvements rather than plopping in the camera that already proved to the world that a quality sensor can exist in a small device.


First off, the iPad 2 camera isnt "mediocre". Its pure garbage. (To put things in perspective, 2007's iPhone camera was 2MP and the 2011 iPad 2 camera is less than 1MP)

But as for DSLR's. Ive got a fantastic DSLR too and several thousand dollars of L lenses. But if I dont have it with me then what good is it?

whose fault is that?

To be honest I have not used the rear facing camera on the ipad (only the front one for facetime with my niece). I wouldn't even care if apple didn't put a camera on the back.

The iPad is the last thing I'd think about when i want to take a picture.

D700 > LX3 > iPhone 4. I have one of the 3 always with me.
 
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I honestly don't think the cameras are near as bad as people make them out to be. They did just fine when I played with them in Best Buy.

Not to mention I'm sure there is a valid reason the iPhone 4 cameras aren't in the iPad. I know everyone on the internet is magically an engineer but I'm pretty sure if it was feasable without a huge price increase Apple would have done it. Everyone for some reason thinks Apple is this evil company who wants nothing more then to dangle cool tech above your head and not let you have it.
 
The OP is clearly playing a useless game of masturbatory reverse sour grapes in a lame attempt to mitigate the iPad's subpar cameras.

I can't even believe I'm replying to this nonsense.
 
a decent camera would've allowed for app integration for companies needing a photo taken during the time of filling out an in-app form.

- claims adjusters
- cops
- medical
- real estate agents listing a house
- ebay clowns
- pawn shop (inventory)
- the list goes on.

It's a shame Apple lovers can't get past their blind loyalty...
 
Finally Got Around to Using the Camera

Wow, this really is a disappointment. Granted I was taking a lower light picture inside at around 6:00 p.m. But the grain on this is almost unbearable unless your going for some kind of artsy effect. I did not buy the iPad2 for a camera. But the camera isn't very good.
 
What he is saying is that if he had a choice between having the ipad2's current crappy cameras vs the iphone4's better cameras, he would be ok and happy with the ipad2's crappy cameras.

I think what he is saying is if he had the choice of paying more and getting the iPhone4s camera, or keeping the price the same as iPad 1 and getting a low-res camera, he'd take the low-res camera.
 
Yeah, I really don't think that's the reason. See, the thing is, and I'm letting you in on a little secret here so keep it under your hat:

The iPad is not a phone. People who need a phone aren't going to buy an iPad no matter how good the camera is.

You're welcome.
Actually he is correct! But it is not the iPhone, but iTouch is the main reason here.
 
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