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iPad Why I bought both (for keeps)
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I disagree whole heartedly....and I own all three. As proven time and time again, MANY of us have found very specific uses for each device. I'll always own both. The Air and the mini. I'll always own an MBA. And I'll (most likely) continue to own a desktop and several 15" laptops. We run a business. Everything is necessary and the iPad, iTunes, and the easy, seamless integration between my devices as well as their unparalleled reliability (we used Windows for six years pre switching to OSx in late 2007)---there absolutely ARE folks with different needs, wants, desires, and means than yourself. My gear is written off. Makes its money back dozens upon dozens of times over AND, get this...with Apple, their used gear is always worth something when you're done with it and ready to 'upgrade'
Not the case with a 2-3 year old Windows machine or Android phone/tablet
You're being WAY too specific when the OP nicely outlined his findings of the variations of usage. He's not just 'writing'. And I'm not sure I saw him talk about writing a novel
That said, there are now some exceptional keyboards for both the mini and Air with month long battery life. If you're a writer and wanted to consider the Air....to compliment your 11" MBA and rMini
Correct. Your opinion. Not everyone shares that opinion and once you've owned and actually 'used' both iPads, the difference is incredible. We use our Airs for music production mixing and video mashing, live... In front of a thousand kids! It's amazing what these guys will do. The surface area of the Air makes a massive difference with the drum pads, synths, keyboards and the ability to see in real time your effects and recording levels. Manipulation of photos, motion, some games are incredible on the large screen. Davinci's book is unreal.
Then again, while I'll loved and used 'Night Sky' since it's release, it's a lot more enjoyable with the rMini checking out the night sky, relaxing in bed with a book...quick, around the house email, messaging, and Facebook or Twitter checks/responses. Mini wins. On the toilet, guess
I used to prefer the TV stand with my Marware case holding Early Edition up for me in the mornings
Truth told...and I did the same last year as we went from iPad 2s to the iPad 4s for our sound, lighting and video systems. So we bought 4 4s and I picked up the Mini (sold my iPad 3---as it was really bad with latency issues I in most of our audio apps). Loved it. Have a wife, she loves it...and was (is) using the iPad 2, I bought her the rMini for Christmas. We've got an 8 year old son that will no longer have to tolerate the sometimes finicky iPad 1---he'll inherit Mom's 2. And the original will get cleaned up and donated
Needs mean different things to different peeps. And we are a pretty diverse crowd. I'm sure it's also easy to mock the fella that enjoys collecting firearms, builds a $50k 2 channel vinyl sound rig, restores classic cars...and keeps several of them.
If the iPads are being used, how in the HELL could ANYone argue someone doesn't need them? Used = being enjoyed, working, producing or painting, reading or watching, developing or listening....I'm sure now one's needs are the same as another's on this board. It's ridiculous to argue otherwise. And for the holier than though BS, give it up. You, again, in your anonymity have NO IDEA what some folks do here for charity, philanthropy, helping their community....teaching and working with kids and technology....the list is truly....endless. Give it up. Go preach that crap somewhere else. The price of a pair of decked out 128GB iPad Air and Mini is under $1800. I remember not too long ago spending double that on a computer that was slower, plagued with issues and done...out the door in less than three years. To the recycle bin
It's saying something my so is still enjoying the almost four year old original iPad. Once you own more the one you realize just how 'personal' an iPad is. Hence the reason I don't think Apple is in any hurry to institute multiple user accounts. At $500, they're extremely reasonable. And if you don't need the latest version, you can spend $350-400 and double your storage with a nice pre owned or refurb from Apple
I don't even know where to start. Other than the fact the iPad has been instrumental in paying my mortgage, buying a cabin and an overhaul to my 185 last month.
Not sure what you do...but it is indeed obvious you aren't the iPad target audience. Many will be fine waiting for their evening news, morning paper or carrying a pen and paper to take your notes, manage your calendar and....really, that's it! I managed. I'm 43. No cell phones til I was outta college. No Internet. We used encyclopedias.
Capitalism ROCKS!
I think you're in the wrong thread. Maybe forum. Maybe website.
Is there a reason you took the time to reply with such eloquence? Do you honestly believe you'll change those of us that enjoy owning multiple devices?
I live in Alaska. I know some of you. They live in the middle of nowhere. Hunt. Fish. Build. Trap. Survive. A vicious cycle in extreme cold most of the year I want no part of.
On the flip side, I really enjoy the charity work we do, coaching my son's baseball team, helping the in laws with some bills... Is there some reason you believe by purchasing two iPads, you're no longer able to help others? Is it a 'jump' to a different level of materialism? What about those silly $500 jeans? $400 shoes, $25,000+ watches....what if? Are they all philosophically F'ed as you'd have us believe?
Hopefully it's been made clear. Otherwise studying reading comprehension would be a great idea.
OMG, you're going to lecture me on materialism? LOL! Ok, I haven't LOLed since yesterday. Thanks for that.
Moral judgements aside, each iPad serves a different purposes, mainly centered around portability. The rMini is smaller, more portable, and easier to hold up for longer periods of time. So for things like reading, watching movies in bed, and carrying it out and about, it's perfect.
The Air has a larger screen, and I prefer it to play games and use around the house, but not carrying with me as much. If I had to I could. But I don't have to. So I use it wifi only around the house. When I leave, I take my LTE rMini with me.
I've found the biggest challenge is to keep the home screens synchronized. I much prefer they mirror one another. Some games, like Dungeon Hunter 4, don't support cloud saves, so I only get to play them on one device. Having cloud enabled apps is key to getting this setup to work. If I start a document while on the road, I can finish it at home either on the bigger iPad or the MBA.
I also find the rMini much more convenient to use as a GPS due to its smaller size. Fits well with an rMini as the "road" device approach.
I guess I shouldn't say my wife has her own iPad lest I be accused of being shallow and materialistic...
Thank you ZBoater. And DH4 absolutely ROCKS! I've enjoyed the entire series. 3 a bit less than the others, but just wanted to commend you on an excellent response
...and an Air and you'd be just a it's complete. Air. Mini. MBA. iPhone. rMBP. A MP when they drop....you should be good. Anything less and you'll find yourself consistently 'behind' in society.
Of course and as always, ymmv and this has all been my VHOpinion
tl/dr----there absolutely IS a need to own both iPads. You've just got to buy them first. Use them. Then you'll figure it out.
J
Wow, size and weight? Damn. I guess I'll go get two phones of different sizes and weight, two beds, two wallets, two houses, all for me. Oh, and i'll make sure they're 99% the same - except for size and weight.Ummm, yes they could. They could be the same size and weight. But they are not. "Over consumption"? I'm glad someone is judging how much other people consume.
Shouldn't you be celebrating Apple's recent stock growth? What are you doing here?
I've read it unfortunately but FYI I don't think anyone wants to read that mess of text where you're basically just trying to feel okay with buying both. Yes, both of them have their own 'use'
I wouldn't buy two things that are 99% the same because it's new & has an Apple logo on it and try to criticize someone else.
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Ummm, you do realize some normal people do have two of all those things, right?
Phone for work and personal. Car for commute and for pleasure, two wallets to split the load, and a summer home.
What is YOUR malfunction?
I agree.
After all, I0gikb0mb (probably) has two balls. They're (probably) the same size and weight.
He's (probably) not complaining about that?
After all, I0gikb0mb (probably) has two balls. They're (probably) the same size and weight.
He's (probably) not complaining about that?
Were they bought because they were just down sized but otherwise exactly the same? Didn't think so. Your examples don't work at all in comparison to the mini vs air.
And I wouldn't include the word 'normal' in there.
Oh Americans.
It's okay, I blame it on your education system.
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In some cases, yes. So let me get this straight, just because you wouldn't do it it's not normal, right?
Wow. Just wow.
Fun topic and way off course. When people spend far more on expensive houses, cars, etc., worrying about the cost of 2 iPads of any size and calling it over consumption is kind of humorous to me. Who is to say that these awful people aren't outstanding citizens who give generously to charitable causes and contribute to society in meaningful ways? Really can't judge a person or their financial planning by the fact that they have an iPad Air and a rMini. There must be a better place to debate societal issues. I have an iPad Air and was criticized by a friend who ask what I needed that for. I'd like to tell her that I have the mini as well but just can't read that small text.
Except no one buys two houses with exactly the same function, blueprints and appearance except one is smaller than the other.
It's not only over consumption, it's plain stupid. And what's hilarious is the people trying to justify by making up some long story about how they 'need' both in their lives for them to survive.
Would you mind linking to the post where someone said they need both to survive? Or is this another exaggeration?
Except no one buys two houses with exactly the same function, blueprints and appearance except one is smaller than the other.
It's not only over consumption, it's plain stupid. And what's hilarious is the people trying to justify by making up some long story about how they 'need' both in their lives for them to survive.
Why does this bother you so much? Have you never bought something you absolutely didn't need?
You're taking what I said way out of context. The point is, you run a business, as you said, and your needs are different than others (obviously). I'm not sure if you're implying I was being "selfish" by saying that only my opinion matters and not the OPs. I was simply saying I see a writer being much better organized having an 11" MBA and an iPad Mini. You're no better than me giving a suggestion to the OP by shoving down our throats the reasons why you can justify your own equipment through tax deductions, business purposes, etc... I'm not going to call you out on buying stuff for your own needs, but I might try to be constructive by pointing out redundancies and ways to reduce clutter in ways that may be beneficial to you in an attempt to help you out.
While disagreeing with me, you're somehow insinuating that your way is even more superior to any else's. At no point did I discount OPs decision. I said that I felt (opinion) a writer would be much better off with (insert setup here). To each their own, of course!
It's one thing to say, "You're an idiot for spending money on two iPads when their are so many better uses for your money blah blah blah!!!". Its another to offer advice or an alternative.
In a sense, I felt OP was trying to get some sort of consolation from this forum (yeah right) by typing out their experience. My recommendation was in part to console and to provoke thinking of what else might be possible since two iPads (again, my opinion) seems excessively redundant.
I never said all he does was write, as apparent here:
OP said:
I simply went by how he actually uses his computers (you know, the reason for owning them...). You can lump editing and writing into one activity and reading into another. I feel the OP would be better off with an iPad Mini for reading and a MBA 11" for writing, thus my suggestion. Is it necessarily the absolute right way to go? No, but far less redundant than two iPads, and a much more capable setup. Then again, he may already have a laptop, but I assume he doesn't.
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Really? Then why start a new thread that does exactly that? He is essentially writing to justify what he has bought to strangers. Talk about perspective...
Probably can't afford to.
Hahahaha. I probably have more in my bank than both your parents make in 5 yrs gross. Please. Some people choose to not make overlapping stupid purchases.
It wasn't rude. You replied, so I replied back. I wasn't the one talking about balls like that other guy or assuming I don't buy something based on the money I make.
You judge, you get judged. The point is you can't take what you are trying to dish.
Great post. "Holier than thou BS" is exactly right. Every time I make a significant purchase, some morally superior douche has to throw a wet blanket over it with a "why do you need it" question. It doesn't take me long to point out their numerous not-needed possessions.
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I have both also and have no regrets what so ever about it. Everyone has something (be it cars, technology etc) that they buy because they want to and it makes them happy. For me its computer technology and the like. I have no apologies nor do I need to justify that decision to anyone. The only one that would have the right to make a judgment would be if I was spending someone else's money on them and keeping the items for my use only, then they have the right to challenge me on why etc. So for others who have both congratulations and I know you get as much use and fun in them as I do with mine.
Some people should also learn to keep their rude opinions to themselves.
Zboater you have a wonderful sense of logic and I happen to agree with you on almost everything you write.
So as a friend, the harsh reality is that these people are singleminded and cannot look beyond their own huge opinions and never understand that if I simply wantboth the iPA and rIPM it's justification enough.
You get an a for effort, but you may as we'll start banging your scrotum in the toilet lid for all the progress you're making.
Zboater you have a wonderful sense of logic and I happen to agree with you on almost everything you write.
So as a friend, the harsh reality is that these people are singleminded and cannot look beyond their own huge opinions and never understand that if I simply wantboth the iPA and rIPM it's justification enough.
You get an a for effort, but you may as we'll start banging your scrotum in the toilet lid for all the progress you're making.
Point taken. Touché.