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Why I don't want to see an iPhone 5 on Tuesday
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Yes, but in those 12 months, they'll have gained at least a dozen or more million iPhone customers (many of them new). I think we're forgetting that Apple has become too popular and too big for the minority of us here on Macrumors to have any impact on their sales. Whatever they put out, it will sell, and sell well. No other company on Earth could have managed to convince everyone that their faulty antenna wasn't really faulty, and then proceed to make it the best selling smartphone on Earth.
My personal opinion is that they're dual releasing the 5 and the 4S. And I'm 99.99% confident about it. But we'll see on Oct 4th.
Well that depends on what level of innovation we are talking about here. Mind you the word "innovation" is overused by our marketing people to describe most things that lack it. I'm not saying it's wrong to redesign a phone to make it thinner or whatever, but I think it's wrong to judge Apple's innovations by such a low standard as whether they will put in a bigger screen or not.
The Samsung Mentality describes a business model that seek adding hardware functions for the sake of adding hardware functions, and people who follow that. There are always hardware that are more advanced (feature and spec wise not design) than Apple's products, but none of them managed to achieve what Apple has achieved, which is to understand humanity, to understand how we want to interact with machines.
I have no doubt that Apple will release an iPhone 5, probably some time next year, but I also know that they will do that not because they felt they need to put in a larger screen to stay in the "competition", they will do that because the hardware innovation will work with their software innovation to advance our interactions with devices and information.
In the meantime, a spec boost of the iPhone 4 is good enough to support the voice assistant, which in my opinion is far more revolutionary than a 4.3inch screen.
Just my 2 cents.
Ah, I think I get what you're saying now. Well then, in that context, I think we are taking a few assumptions here on MR. One of them is that whatever phone Apple puts out, it will have the A5 chip and will support Voice Assistant. That is almost a given at this point. But what is uncertain for almost everyone is that if they're releasing a 5, a 4S, or both.
Now given this, a spec bumped iPhone 4 is the least we can expect from Apple after almost 20 months we gave them to create a new iPhone. That is why we are not ready to really call that innovation. Now mind you, it's not an easy task upgrading internals, I know that, but at the same time, it's not really revolutionary the way you describe it. Since it's expected.
What would be revolutionary though, would be a redesigned iPhone that not only has the A5 chip and supports Voice assistant (again, these are almost certainly given), but also simply amazes our senses in many ways: from interacting with it to simply holding the phone. That, mate, is what I'd call innovation.
Technology is not static, and quest for perfection never end. If you think Apple has already reached all there is to reach, that will be the beginning of the end of apple dominance. It simply does not make sense to use a tiny screen when bigger screen clearly provides better user experience, as long as the overall phone size remains highly pocketable. Even Steve Jobs did not say customers do not want big screen - it is big phones that could become a problem. The next question is how big is too big? One hand use is a poor criteria because even Steve Jobs uses two hands in all his demo, I believe. To provide as big a screen as possible without making it unpocketable is part of the innovation story. This may mean trimming the bezel, it may mean using flexible display, or whatever.
five years down the road, if 4.3 inch is adopted by Apple, you will be saying that is the sweet spot instead of 3.5 inch.
five years down the road, if 4.3 inch is adopted by Apple, you will be saying that is the sweet spot instead of 3.5 inch.
OP trying to beat Bobby Corwen for the most dislikes in a thread they started.
Man, the OP is so short-sighted at all this and wants it to move selfishly on his (or her) time. Sour grapes. Please, let's NOT progress in technology! Let's stay on 3.5-4 inches forever and ever!
The problem is perfection and technology always evolve. What might seem perfect this year may not seem perfect next year. What might be the most beautiful this year may not be next year. You know back in 2007, there were some who actually thought the first iPhone was too big and too wide. Compared to most candy-bar phones, it was. But what happened? We got used to it!
Now 5-inch screen phones is for an acquired taste. But I can realistically see phones maxing out to 4.5-4.7 inches. As long as people can use their phone one-handed and grip the phone all the way around with one hand, then I can see no problem getting used to it. We came from huge phones before. Our cordless phones have been bigger and taller. Of course, not one size fits all to people. But to say we should stay at certain sizes, that is just being a bit selfish.
Maybe the OP should collect smartphones and not base them on photos, videos, or 10 min samples. Get them at different sizes and get used to them for a time. From there, you might actually start to DREAM BIGGER. You might actually open your mind to some of it.
Man, the OP is so short-sighted at all this and wants it to move selfishly on his (or her) time. Sour grapes. Please, let's NOT progress in technology! Let's stay on 3.5-4 inches forever and ever!
The problem is perfection and technology always evolve. What might seem perfect this year may not seem perfect next year. What might be the most beautiful this year may not be next year. You know back in 2007, there were some who actually thought the first iPhone was too big and too wide. Compared to most candy-bar phones, it was. But what happened? We got used to it!
Now 5-inch screen phones is for an acquired taste. But I can realistically see phones maxing out to 4.5-4.7 inches. As long as people can use their phone one-handed and grip the phone all the way around with one hand, then I can see no problem getting used to it. We came from huge phones before. Our cordless phones have been bigger and taller. Of course, not one size fits all to people. But to say we should stay at certain sizes, that is just being a bit selfish.
Maybe the OP should collect smartphones and not base them on photos, videos, or 10 min samples. Get them at different sizes and get used to them for a time. From there, you might actually start to DREAM BIGGER. You might actually open your mind to some of it.
Judging a book by its cover I see
All I am saying is if you want people to take you seriously, and not accuse you of being a troll you should refrain from using "fanboy". Its generally the term people use when they are trolling, or to make fun of a group of people who like a certain thing and has no business in serious discussion.
I wouldn't hold your breath.....
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Judging a book by its cover I see
All I am saying is if you want people to take you seriously, and not accuse you of being a troll you should refrain from using "fanboy". Its generally the term people use when they are trolling, or to make fun of a group of people who like a certain thing and has no business in serious discussion.
Well this is the definition of fan boy and it fits perfectly for how some are on this forum...
FANBOY:
informal derogatory an obsessive male fan
James
If the 4S and a redesigned 5 come out on the same day, you will get the iphone5.
Don't kid anybody and think that you, one person, will be proving anything by purchasing 4S over a thinner, lighter, larger screen phone (hopefully with less antenna issues).
+1
you're also forgetting that bigger phone == larger battery == good thing
you can always go for an iphone 4 (another one - since you're so in love with being behind everyone else) and live happy
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So your suggesting apple stick with the same 3.5in screen for another year? Honestly, keeping the same size screen for 5 years is a terrible idea. Im 99% sure we will see a 4s and 5 come Tuesday. This is Tim Cooks day to shine, and apple would not just give him a 4s and call it a day. 20 months to produce a 4s would be a huge step backwards and very unlikely for apple.
Also, they are not chasing the "samsung mentality". They make 5in phones, so making a 4in phone would not be them chasing samsung or trying to make a bigger is better argument.
Oh, and just keep your 4, because your in the minority when it comes to screen size.
Also, they are not chasing the "samsung mentality". They make 5in phones, so making a 4in phone would not be them chasing samsung or trying to make a bigger is better argument.
Oh, and just keep your 4, because your in the minority when it comes to screen size.
Why I don't want to see an iPhone 5 on Tuesday????? WTF??? This is the strangest, weirdest, stupidest thread ever.
Have you ever tried to walk with an EVO in your pocket? For many android users bigger phone does not mean "progress" ... battery life, responsiveness and overall utility do. I don't want to play halo on my telephone. I want to play angry birds, pull up a map, get a quick email and then put slip it back in my pocket.
Personally i'm hoping for a 5 just to push the 4s price down a bit.
I walk with a Evo in my pocket every day. Whats the problem? Your "hip" skinny jeans to tight?