Why I Hate FireFox!

TommyLee

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Jan 23, 2004
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Mozilla sure doesn't care. I mean, this is a great product for a PC. I've tried it on both and the Mac version just isn't all there... They don't even have a Mac support forum- and they say they have no plans too! :eek:

First off, I must say the FTP sucks. I have yet to find a decent FTP for Mac.
Page up, Page down, Home & End keys do nothing.
The Delete key doesn't take you back a page.


And If you're using 1.0, you're better off dead:

They took a powerful Search Function and broke it. It hardly finds anything. And the Highlight feature is impossible to turn off once enabled.

Did I miss anything?
Why do YOU hate FireFox?
 

wordmunger

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Sep 3, 2003
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Yeah, the page up and page down thing are what keep me using Safari. I don't feel quite as violently about it as Tommy Lee does, though.
 

Whigga Spitta

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Apr 21, 2004
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Can you say Chi-City??
I see no major advantages to Firefox over Safari, plus, I feel (maybe it's naively) that Safari has more integration within OS X.

Firefox vs. IE though is a no-brainer on the Windows side.
 

allroy

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Mar 10, 2004
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What about Camino

I use Firefox and Safari started a little with Camino and am so thankful I have these options over I.E. try using IE on XP with the new SP2 installed, thanks Microsoft, some fine work you've done.
 

andysmith

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Sep 24, 2004
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Obviously it's hard to port a product and keep everything the same - but press Apple+Left/Right in a text box for Home and End (not as good as the buttons, I know), and press Apple+Left/Right when not in a text box for Back and Forward.

And the Page Up and Page Down buttons work fine here with 1.0PR.
Otherwise, I haven't had any problems.
 

sammyjojo

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Mar 30, 2004
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If you're using a powerbook, the page-up/down, etc. work by holding the function key and then pushing the other keys. My only beef with firefox on the mac right now is that I can't push tab and get into a checkbox or drop-down menu.
 

AmigoMac

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Dude, you're a bit rude, maybe you should consider "Why I don't like Firefox" better, I don't think Firefox did a big damage to you/your family, if it doesn't have the functions you want, it's not a reason to hate...

I use Firefox at work because I have to use windows :mad: :D
btu safari rules in OS X and camino rocks, IMO. for me has been easier to control tabs with the keyboard in camino, alt+command+arrows...
 

SpaceMagic

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Oct 26, 2003
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OK, granted you listed valuable lacking features of firefox... but the list is much longer for safari. Firefox is far superior, still better than the pre-builds of Safari 2 also. I'm sticking with it, as it supports my bank and has a whole load of amazing features (like extensions!)
 

wordmunger

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andysmith said:
Obviously it's hard to port a product and keep everything the same - but press Apple+Left/Right in a text box for Home and End (not as good as the buttons, I know), and press Apple+Left/Right when not in a text box for Back and Forward.

And the Page Up and Page Down buttons work fine here with 1.0PR.
Otherwise, I haven't had any problems.
Ahh... you made me download firefox and everything, but it still doesn't work right for me. I was mistaken that pageup and pagedown don't work -- they do, but in Safari, option-up and option-down work as pageup and pagedown, which means I can page up and down with just one hand. In Firefox, I have to use two hands, because the fn key is way on the other side of the keyboard.
 

bousozoku

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Jun 25, 2002
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Gone but not forgotten.
Things could be better in Firefox but I like it better than Safari.

Yes, the keyboard commands are different depending on the platform--you could say that they're platform-specific. I know that sounds incredibly terrible that you could go from one Mac application to another and use the same keyboard shortcuts, but it's true. You can do the same thing with the Windows version. It's like they meant them to work the way you think they would.

I must also say that I like the new find area. Not having an overlapping window makes things clearer and active searching seems to work quite well for me.
 

jeremy.king

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Jul 23, 2002
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Hey TommyLee, stop being a whiny little....Look at the version on FireFox, it was just released and you had ample time to submit your requests when it was in beta. It will only get better as it gains popularity.

Also, I have yet to use a software program that was perfect as of release 1.0

Man! Some people. :rolleyes:
 

kgarner

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Jan 28, 2004
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ExoticFish said:
wow, i've never heard of such anger towards the browser that it starting to steal IE's dominance in the market.
i've never heard of such anger towards a browser that wasn't IE. ;)
 

macaddictann

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Sep 23, 2004
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I don't try to use those functions (pgup, pgdown), so I wouldn't know about that. I admit it has imperfections. The "Document contains no data" error. Obviously its being unable to work with sites coded for IE. I do miss being able to tab to a Submit button or dropdown. :( But I put up with its faults because I love its advantages. It's the only browser I know that shows sites right (the ones I frequent, anyway), and I include IE, Safari, and Opera in this.
 

JOD8FY

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Mar 22, 2004
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I haven't used it for Mac, but I like Firefox on my PC. It beats the heck out of IE. No pop-ups, the built in Google search - it's nice, at least for PC.

JOD8FY
 

TopGear

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Oct 22, 2002
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Firefox hangup(s)

I certainly don't hate Firefox or any other collection of ones and zeros, but when I tried to install the most recent version it hung up my machine and kept disappearing and reappearing in the dock.

It was weird -- I couldn't even force quit the little bugger (it disappeared and reappeared there, too). Finally I had to open a Terminal window and try to to kill it from the command line, but it kept changing the PID on me. Instead of killall, I resorted to a classic and held my iBook's power button down until it died. That solved it. For the moment I'll stick with Safari, thank you very much.

Now, that's how Firefox hung up on my Mac. But other people seem to have hangups ABOUT Firefox... :rolleyes:
 

leftbanke7

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Feb 4, 2004
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Both Safari and Firefox have a place on my comp. Safari is my default browser as it is the faster of the two (at least in my case) but when Safari can't handle a page, I hop into Firefox and it usually does the job.

And why I am thinking about it, a question. On certain websites, when clicking on a link of an image, Safari makes me download it before looking at it whereas Firefox opens it up within the browser. I prefer the latter method. How do I make Safari do this? By doing this, do I increase the likelyhood of nasties getting into my computer?
 

King Cobra

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kingjr3 said:
Look at the version on FireFox, it was just released and...it was in beta.
I'm echoing that part of your post, since I pretty much disagree with the rest of it, though I agree with your point here. Don't expect a product to work perfect (IF at all) if it's in beta. Also, don't let that "Release Candidate" or "Preview Release" signature beside "1.0" for any application fool you. Those signatures equate to "One stage away from final," or "Beta." Never expect a beta application to work as you want, because, by definition, a beta has not been thoroughly tested, as developers have not sought and fixed all known bugs in the software. Therefore, it is necessary that one does not adopt Firefox as a default browser until it has hit 1.0 final.
 

superbovine

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TommyLee said:
Mozilla sure doesn't care. I mean, this is a great product for a PC. I've tried it on both and the Mac version just isn't all there... They don't even have a Mac support forum- and they say they have no plans too! :eek:
Firefox is an open source program made my a community of developers, and manged by Mozilla. The Mac community is the reason why firefox was ported to the Mac not Mozilla. So in a way you are right, but also you a trashing talking the part of the open source community that invest their time to write browser. Also, if you think part of mozilla sucks, download the source and make it better.
 

Logik

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TopGear said:
I certainly don't hate Firefox or any other collection of ones and zeros, but when I tried to install the most recent version it hung up my machine and kept disappearing and reappearing in the dock.

It was weird -- I couldn't even force quit the little bugger (it disappeared and reappeared there, too). Finally I had to open a Terminal window and try to to kill it from the command line, but it kept changing the PID on me. Instead of killall, I resorted to a classic and held my iBook's power button down until it died. That solved it. For the moment I'll stick with Safari, thank you very much.

Now, that's how Firefox hung up on my Mac. But other people seem to have hangups ABOUT Firefox... :rolleyes:
if you had installed a previous version of it then trash your prefs and try again. Sometimes it has issues with the configuration stuff from prior builds.
 

Dr. No

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Sep 13, 2003
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Does mozilla.org have plans to make Firefox more "Mac-like"?

I have heard that they plan to change some things after the official 1.0 release.
 

Mav451

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Logik said:
if you had installed a previous version of it then trash your prefs and try again. Sometimes it has issues with the configuration stuff from prior builds.
Very true. If you wanna talk about hangups, Safari is notorious for doing so (@ the UMD Mckeldin lab). Sit in there for a few minutes, and you will hear the Apple sound REPEATEDLY. Why? B/c those machines are getting restarted b/c Safari froze, again. After freezing it eventually brings down everything, even if you attempt to force quit.

>> do i blame Safari? NO. I blame the corrupted .plist

And well, I guess i also blame the UMD techs from not even attempting to fix this situation. Alas, till corrupted .plist's are completely eliminated, i continue to use Camino in the labs. Hrm, guess nothing I talked bout has anything to do with Firefox lol.
 

andysmith

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Sep 24, 2004
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TopGear said:
I certainly don't hate Firefox or any other collection of ones and zeros, but when I tried to install the most recent version it hung up my machine and kept disappearing and reappearing in the dock.

It was weird -- I couldn't even force quit the little bugger (it disappeared and reappeared there, too). Finally I had to open a Terminal window and try to to kill it from the command line, but it kept changing the PID on me. Instead of killall, I resorted to a classic and held my iBook's power button down until it died. That solved it. For the moment I'll stick with Safari, thank you very much.

Now, that's how Firefox hung up on my Mac. But other people seem to have hangups ABOUT Firefox... :rolleyes:
I had the same problem when I first downloaded it - I just restarted, and tried again, and it was fine.

I use FireFox on Mac and PC - there's some brilliant extentions for it, which I can't do without - like the 'Web Developer' toolbar.
Safari just lacks too many features I've been lovin over the last 14 months I've been using Firefox - find-as-you-type, customizable toolbars, and all sorts of keyboard shortcuts and little tweaks.

Safari is a brilliant browser - it's just not for me.