Why I hate social network websites

dontwalkhand

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I hate social networking websites because it seems that these websites have replaced good old E-Mail for communication. Something about it just bugs me how we are reliant on a website to handle essential communication., and the communication can't be controlled by the other party, unlike an email service.

Wasn't there a company that did technical support via Facebook?

What really gets on my nerves about this is now, people seem overly dependent on MySpace, Facebook and more. If the site goes down, so would your contacts unless you have their number, etc.
 

SimonMW

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And if you rely on something like Facebook for communication, what happens if that goes down? It has happened.

I get fed up with people using these social networking sites instead of email. I don't want to have to join up to 20 different social networking sites just to send messages to different people. It's ridiculous. Email is such a simple and straightforward communication method I have no idea why it is being eschewed in favour of other methods.
 

anjinha

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And if you rely on something like Facebook for communication, what happens if that goes down? It has happened.

I get fed up with people using these social networking sites instead of email. I don't want to have to join up to 20 different social networking sites just to send messages to different people. It's ridiculous. Email is such a simple and straightforward communication method I have no idea why it is being eschewed in favour of other methods.
That's the thing. Facebook can go down. Email can go down. The fact that there's all these different ways of communicating with people means there's lots of alternatives in case one of them goes down.

Why don't we just stick to phones? Or regular mail?
 

scottness

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Why don't we just stick to phones? Or regular mail?
Right. If it's that important, call me. That's why I got an iPhone and not an iPod Touch. I hate social networking anyway. Email has been most stable for me (outside of the phone), but I never assume it's been read until I recieve a response.
 

Blue Velvet

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I know a few people that have never managed to get their email apps working, whether on Mac or PC, so they use webmail instead. So it's not such a big step to then send everything through FaceBook, as one of my sisters does. As irritating as it is, I'm still glad that we have some way to stay in touch, although it's now the only reason I have for keeping my FaceBook account.

Different strokes for different folks.
 

Love

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That's the thing. Facebook can go down. Email can go down. The fact that there's all these different ways of communicating with people means there's lots of alternatives in case one of them goes down.

Why don't we just stick to phones and regular mail/email.
Fixed. That might work for you in Portugal or other small countries. Here in Canada, it can a) cost a lot to make a phone call across the country (depending on provider of service) and b) we have a pretty crap postal system that makes everything take forever. It takes like 2 weeks for a letter to get from Vancouver to St. Johns. A week and a half for Vancouver-Toronto.
 

Abstract

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It does not take 1.5 weeks to send mail from Vancouver to Toronto. If you sent mail between those cities frequently enough, you'd know that.


And who gets to decide which form of communication we should stick to? In many cases, I prefer FB over email, unless it's business related.
 

No1451

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It does not take 1.5 weeks to send mail from Vancouver to Toronto. If you sent mail between those cities frequently enough, you'd know that.


And who gets to decide which form of communication we should stick to? In many cases, I prefer FB over email, unless it's business related.
The person receiving does, if I state that the best way to communicate with me(for say, a group project or for things with my friends) is email or the phone, ffs USE those! I check my emails daily for school and such, I don't check Facebook even weekly.

I usually just send stuff via email, if its important and they don't respond I try another method(text is my second) and phone is my third.
 

Sun Baked

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C'mon the divorce lawyers think social networks are great, lots of incriminating stuff there. :p
 

DeepIn2U

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Communication.

I hate social networking websites because it seems that these websites have replaced good old E-Mail for communication. Something about it just bugs me how we are reliant on a website to handle essential communication., and the communication can't be controlled by the other party, unlike an email service.

Wasn't there a company that did technical support via Facebook?

What really gets on my nerves about this is now, people seem overly dependent on MySpace, Facebook and more. If the site goes down, so would your contacts unless you have their number, etc.
Hmm. I think you've finally reached the point of generation separation. No offense. I say this because essentially, using Facebook or MySpace for txt communication is simply no different than SMS/MMS on your cellphone - which pre-dates effective wireless email (EVEN BlackBerry's NOC; SMS does, maybe not MMS).

We have to be VERY careful on 2 simplistic thoughts regarding communication.
1> What is thought of as essential communication - forms or the message carried, and what medium used is appropriate.
2> Which form (medium) of communication is BEST to communicate a particular message.

Let's think about this and relate this to time for a moment. I'll tackle #2 first: Form or medium is BEST considered to communicate a particular message.

Body Language. This by ANY other culture pre-dates ALL forms of communication. From Animals to higher form primates to human beings - this is used EVEN today (in/out of the office, your spouse, your lover/girlfriend, your colleagues, friends, enemies/adversary's). Depending on the message needed to be conveyed ~ this can be the most effective in specific situations. You don't walk around a horse to its rear without your hand going along side its body do you? You don't show you grill & flex your eyebrows or muscles when some thug has a gun pointed to your head trying to rob you do you? You don't wink/grin/lick your lips at another woman if your wife is around do you?

Hand gestures/communication. This in its lowest form (gestures) or highest form (sign-language) also pre-dates Vocal communication. I cannot recall which dog does this to alert its master of prey, but I've personally seen it myself as a child and was freaked out and laughed my head off when this dog pointed in a hilly open field. Sign launguage is used by the deaf to communicate. Today, the hearing-impaired use teletype phones to use txt to the recipient or even more efficiently, video operator can quickly translate sign-language visually to you over the phone where a video call on your end cannot be used ~ let alone interpreted by most citizens in any nation. Also ie hostage situation where extraction/seperation of hostiles vs hostages - the police force and more so the military use hand-gestures.

Vocal Communication. This is also a very old form of communication and considered to be the BEST form of communication amongst us all ~ at least until 2001. We all can communicate information, emotion, and possibly intent (without actually saying it) to another party. However we also know the basics of the Tower of Babel that many various forms of language makes Vocal ineffective or inefficient if the other party cannot understand or communicate back in a common language with us. The internet age makes translation (basic if not rudimentally yet flawed to an extent) more effective. So Text (sms, email, written) is more effective. However, you also need to think about basic information/data .... 70 years ago the newspaper was the hallmark of communicating information across a nation efficiently and effectively (along with snail mail). If anyone made stock trades based on the mornings newspaper - you'd be broke! It's yesterdays news that is printed for tomorrow (with the exception of articles). The internet (mobile or connected) is the BEST form to communicate time sensitive data.

Text. For the past few years Email has become so important, synonymous with efficiency, and over-bearing that it's become a multi-billion dollar industry to corporations, end users are left paying the cost. I've worked at so many companies in the past 10yrs as a contractor in many sectors actually have courses/training on email etticut. When NOT to send an email reply and not to send the reply to all party's if its not necessary to their jobs, responsibilities. Just 1 email sent out by an upper echelon employee can generate over 5 useless reply's and its not only creating in-efficient workers, but also lots of frustration. Yes I'm a culprit as well :( . Although we can communicate data, emotion, and intent this way, its not always perceived effeciently or correctly. SMS is considered dead in North America due to its 160 character limit; however many youth have adapted incredibly efficient form of txt to deal with this. Facebook, or MySpace allows not just text but also multimedia. Many business' can use this medium to effectively target market potential consumers right where they feel comfortable the most and communicate on their level & on their terms (for the most part). Don't kid yourself into thinking that boards, posts, or user profiles cannot be managed any bit less on FaceBook/Twitter/MySpace than RIM's BlackBerry's & NOC. It all takes the right pressure to create the exact momentum/inertia to get the right form of security enabled.

Unified Communications in the office is comming to a serious convergence in the next 12mths [both MS Office 2010, Lotus Notes, and VOIP/Video Conferencing will become unified and efficiently managed]

Language or communication is ever more powerful and obvious in today's world than it ever has been. Not being able to adjust can leave you in the dust. Over communicating can result in your words falling on "deaf ears" ~ which undoubtedly is what I've done here.

Cheers.
 

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I rather like that aspect about them. I added my college course leader to Facebook a couple of years ago, didn't have my email address, and recently he got in touch through it to send me a job offer. I owe quite a bit to them.
 

Love

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It does not take 1.5 weeks to send mail from Vancouver to Toronto. If you sent mail between those cities frequently enough, you'd know that.


And who gets to decide which form of communication we should stick to? In many cases, I prefer FB over email, unless it's business related.
You know, I prolly shouldn't have said that - it might not, it might, it always varies with Canada Post. Nothing's really guaranteed
 

Demosthenes X

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Just wait - in the near future, Facebook and email will be indistinguishable. I don't know why you can't simply send an email to "John.Doe@facebook.com" and have it show up in the users Inbox as a message, but I'm confident it's coming - right not, if you compose a new message, you can type in an email address and send an email from Facebook. I tried it earlier tonight and it's taking forever to come through, though.

But just wait... Facebook email can't be far off. :S
 

callmemike20

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I hate cars because they replaced the horse. What would people do if all their cars broke down and there was no way to fix them? How many people really know how to ride a horse?
 

anjinha

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Fixed. That might work for you in Portugal or other small countries. Here in Canada, it can a) cost a lot to make a phone call across the country (depending on provider of service) and b) we have a pretty crap postal system that makes everything take forever. It takes like 2 weeks for a letter to get from Vancouver to St. Johns. A week and a half for Vancouver-Toronto.
I was being sarcastic.
 

obeygiant

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Facebook and other social networking sites are good for passive communication i.e. "hey I'm going to the movies." or "I love pancakes."

Email is still used for direct communication still isn't it?

Like sometimes when you call someone you want to get their machine and leave a message instead of having a conversation.
 

zioxide

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email sucks. people never check it, and what if you don't know someone's email address?

on facebook, you can just look them up by their name and send them a message. it puts everything in one place. much easier.
 

rowsdower

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email sucks. people never check it, and what if you don't know someone's email address?

on facebook, you can just look them up by their name and send them a message. it puts everything in one place. much easier.
The only time I ever check Facebook is when I get an email saying I have a new message there.
 

Gonzo3333

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I was kind of forced to join Facebook from some friends that live in Tacoma, WA. It seems that I talk to them more often on the telephone than via Facebook. I don't think I have logged into Facebook in about 4 months and I have not received any email notifications about anybody leaving me messages (I guess I don't have any friends :(). I also seem to spend more of my time doing things besides updating my page. I think I may get rid of it within the near future.
 

rowsdower

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I don't think I have logged into Facebook in about 4 months and I have not received any email notifications about anybody leaving me messages (I guess I don't have any friends :().
I think you have to set email alerts in my preferences, so maybe you have a bunch of messages waiting. It might have been on by default though.
 
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