Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up


maflynn

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Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up.

This is a good read I wanted to share.

Link. http://char.gd/microsoft/why-i-left-mac-for-windows/
The large fonts/bolded fonts are annoying, no need for that.

The progress in macOS land has basically been dead since Yosemite, two years ago, and Apple’s updates to the platform have been incredibly small.
As for the story, I think he's spot on regarding the operating system. There's been really not much added in the recent versions.


Then, in October 2016, Microsoft unveiled the next version of Windows: Creators Update out of nowhere. It brings dedicated gaming features, full OS-level VR support, color customization, a people bar for quick chat and a lot more in a free update.
I agree that we're seeing more exciting changes over at Redmond then 1 Infinite Loop, The updates to the hardware and software are minor especially when you compare/contrast them to what MS is doing, or even HP with the Spectre line of laptops

Will I move on from OSX? Probably not, at least not yet but I am having a hard time justifying spending close to 3k for a laptop, I'm not seeing the value in the purchase, where as I can spend half that and get a very good laptop running Windows.
 

Crazy Badger

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I guess the standard one word response of 'farewell' is appropriate ;-)

I never understand when people moan about a lack of new features to the OS though. What do you want it to do? I'd prefer them to be taking things away, rather than adding them, making it as quick and stable as is possible (whilst providing a very limited number of applications which are ultimately required for multi-device/data integration)

Any other apps, should be distributed as such and require me to install them rather than remove them or live with them being unused.

I use macOS and Windows daily, and feel there's very little the choose between them in most cases, other than a different approach. The Windows 7 machine I use at work is just as stable as the MacBook or iMac I use at home, and whilst my preference is still macOS, it wouldn't be a problem to switch either way. The applications present a slightly different challenge, with some of the Windows versions working better than the macOS ones (Office 365) and some of the macOS ones not available on Windows (OmniFocus, Aperture).

Heck, for something's, you'd be better of without either Windows or macOS and using a Linux variant or even FreeBSD.

I think the hardware argument makes a lot more sense, but then you just buy what you can afford and what best fits your requirements and find the appropriate forum for information and support. Not sure why you'd need to announce your arrival or departure to either :rolleyes:
 

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The large fonts/bolded fonts are annoying, no need for that.


As for the story, I think he's spot on regarding the operating system. There's been really not much added in the recent versions.



I agree that we're seeing more exciting changes over at Redmond then 1 Infinite Loop, The updates to the hardware and software are minor especially when you compare/contrast them to what MS is doing, or even HP with the Spectre line of laptops

Will I move on from OSX? Probably not, at least not yet but I am having a hard time justifying spending close to 3k for a laptop, I'm not seeing the value in the purchase, where as I can spend half that and get a very good laptop running Windows.
I don't mind Win 7 set to "classic" for look and feel and I don't like Win10 though it seems stable. I do prefer OSX from about 3 versions ago as a clean and easy to use system. I believe in a year or two I will not be getting a Mac desktop or laptop. If I go with a laptop, it might be something akin to an Alienware for more bang for the buck and not bad for graphics such as Photoshop. Desktop based on today's offering would be something I build or perhaps something akin to HP's upper line work stations.

When I look at just the ports on the Alienware, it meets my* needs with the right assortment as opposed to Apple's removal of ports. The graphics are Nvidia and go from 2 gig mem to 8 gig. Some of the models take 32 gigs of RAM and a modern Intel Chip (quad core). If you want fancy they also offer OLED screens. These are just some of the reasons that I might take a look at something other than a rMBP. Btw, the last laptop I had (since I was really more a desktop user) was long long ago - IBM Thinkpad (Before they sold off the desktop/laptop division to Lenevo). It was a workhorse of a laptop.
 

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I believe in a year or two I will not be getting a Mac desktop or lapto
I think for me, WWDC 2017 will be a seminal moment in deciding my preferred platform. If the next version of macOS is devoid of some useful features, I can see myself looking more seriously at PCs.

I've been discussing in various threads about wanting a 15" laptop and its getting harder to justify spending nearly 3k on a MBP. There are still features, and services that I like on the Mac platform but in all honesty spending 3k on a laptop is something I'm having trouble with.
 

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I saw the writing on the wall a coupl years back. iOS is the future for Apple, they're just going to have to push forward faster to get there. It's one of the reasons why I moved my stuff to the iPad, because it get piggyback from iPhone.
 

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I saw the writing on the wall a coupl years back. iOS is the future for Apple, they're just going to have to push forward faster to get there. It's one of the reasons why I moved my stuff to the iPad, because it get piggyback from iPhone.
I wouldn't be so sure about IOS taking over that fast unless Apple does some pretty stellar manipulating of the masses. Let's recall when Windows tried to shift and merge desktop with tablet/smartphone type interface ... major disaster. However, the real question (for some of us) is given how many applications are going to web interface, SAAS taking off and more, the typical home may only want tablets or netbooks because that is all they will really need. Think of them as "smart" thin clients.
 

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I wouldn't be so sure about IOS taking over that fast unless Apple does some pretty stellar manipulating of the masses. Let's recall when Windows tried to shift and merge desktop with tablet/smartphone type interface ... major disaster. However, the real question (for some of us) is given how many applications are going to web interface, SAAS taking off and more, the typical home may only want tablets or netbooks because that is all they will really need. Think of them as "smart" thin clients.
They already sell twice as many iPads as Macs.
 

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I never understand when people moan about a lack of new features to the OS though. What do you want it to do? I'd prefer them to be taking things away, rather than adding them, making it as quick and stable as is possible (whilst providing a very limited number of applications which are ultimately required for multi-device/data integration)
So imagine saying that when System 7.5 was released. Would you really want to be using System 7.5 today? Operating systems evolve by new features that are generally an optimizing of several outdated features and methods into a new package, or something used to expand functionality. An item like ColorSync was added in 1993 to System 7.1. What if they just decided not to do it in the interest of "stability"? My color is not accurate, but hey it's stable!

Heck, for something's, you'd be better of without either Windows or macOS and using a Linux variant or even FreeBSD.
If all you do is word processing, play MP3's, and write code....sure, but let's face it. Linux is a user experience nightmare and most of it's open source applications are complicated to install, written with bulky inconsistent code, and littered with glitches. There is also no unified interface guidelines which make it a mess. Sometimes I feel like Linux is de-evolving. Linux has a long way to go and the fact that companies like Adobe and Microsoft don't make applications for it tell you how awesome it is. Open source is also the worst kind of software in my opinion as support is flakey, development depends on the mood of the person, the quality of the code is questionable, and there is usually little direction so the app becomes a bloated mess. Commercial open source projects tend to be better as someone is being paid to do it. But good luck finding quality software.

Not sure why you'd need to announce your arrival or departure to either :rolleyes:
Apple products elicit emotions and people take this very seriously. Especially for users from the 80's or 90's. There is also the community element that helps bind the emotional element. The person obviously wants to connect with people and share personal experiences. You know.....have a discussion on a discussion forum. :eek:
 

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They already sell twice as many iPads as Macs.
I'll tell you what, if the iPad sales levels keep on declining as fast as they are, that won't be true in 2 years time. If the iPad is the future and Apple wants to keep it that way, they'd better invest in IOS development specifically for that platform instead of treating it like a large iPhone.
 

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I'll tell you what, if the iPad sales levels keep on declining as fast as they are, that won't be true in 2 years time. If the iPad is the future and Apple wants to keep it that way, they'd better invest in IOS development specifically for that platform instead of treating it like a large iPhone.
And if I had a million dollars, I'd be a millionaire.
 

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Apple products elicit emotions and people take this very seriously.:eek:
And for many, a gag reflex. Too many smug millenials with Iphones.

Why do you think Android sales lead Iphone sales? Could it be that some don't want to be mistaken for sheeple?

Or, more likely, people realize that the Iphone is poor value for the money.

Or both.
 
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And for many, a gag reflex. Too many smug millenials with Iphones.

Why do you think Android sales lead Iphone sales? Could it be that some don't want to be mistaken for sheeple?

Or, more likely, people realize that the Iphone is poor value for the money.

Or both.
The worst of the smug millennias are the ones with the Apple Watch.
 

I7guy

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And for many, a gag reflex. Too many smug millenials with Iphones.

Why do you think Android sales lead Iphone sales? Could it be that some don't want to be mistaken for sheeple?

Or, more likely, people realize that the Iphone is poor value for the money.

Or both.
Excellent pejorative post. Hard to reconcile some of these points with the last quarters revenue. And yes android sales lead iPhone, but who is making money and what is the price point of some of these phones? And who determines the value to price ratio?

And we're a multi platform household as well.
 

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I think for me, WWDC 2017 will be a seminal moment in deciding my preferred platform. If the next version of macOS is devoid of some useful features, I can see myself looking more seriously at PCs.

I've been discussing in various threads about wanting a 15" laptop and its getting harder to justify spending nearly 3k on a MBP. There are still features, and services that I like on the Mac platform but in all honesty spending 3k on a laptop is something I'm having trouble with.
When u are talking about improvement and "features being added" like Touchbar, its pretty difficult to do that and the next hardware to be "cheaper" by any standard. I've yet to see that from Apple all the time i've been an Apple user..

You can only make things cheaper by omitting stuff, or making favoring better things over others like Apple did with the iPhone SE.
 

Michael Goff

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I'm not looking down on them because they bought an Apple Watch....I am looking down on them because they are smug millennial douche bags.
And what does the generation they're from or what they buy have to do with them being smug d-bags?